thecricketer Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 TBF Sarfraz before our fastest chase against Srilanka in sharjah and after that are two different beings. Don't compare Sharjah pitch with Australian pitches.
Hur Rizvi Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Don't compare Sharjah pitch with Australian pitches. He's yet to fail in Australia :P I know he has a lot to prove but i think he can be a successful ODI WK batsman everywhere. I would like him to bat at no. 5 ideally but he has to bat against new ball due to failures of Jamshed
Guldozer Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 You are entitled to your opinion but get your facts right - Ind has produced some great bowlers such as the 4 great spinners, Kumble, Kapil, etc. .... And before that Md. Nissar and Amar Singh were rated highly as well Ind has probably produced more world class bowlers than Pakistan has produced world class batsmen It appears as if your memory has been corrupted by the Imran, Wasim and Waqar era. Let me tell you that those 3 were lucky to be playing when their careers overlapped as they could hunt as a group :winky: Let's count. If you consider Kumble, Bedi, Kapil Dev to be world class then from Pakistan: The original little master Hanif Mohammad, Inzamam, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abbas, Yousuf, Younis in tests, and even Misbah is not far from that status.
Detonator Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Let's count. If you consider Kumble, Bedi, Kapil Dev to be world class then from Pakistan: The original little master Hanif Mohammad, Inzamam, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abbas, Yousuf, Younis in tests, and even Misbah is not far from that status. should be a really heartwarming moment. on topic, already down to yousuf and younis :hysterical: Srinath, Manoj Prabhakar, Harbhajji, Vinoo Mankad, even Agarkar are world class.
Invasion 550 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 You should look into other poster autonomous's post to see why my response came. If you talk trash, you get the same back. Yeah Sohail took 5 wickets after India made more than 300 runs. But Shami took those wickets to bundle you guys out and finish the match. My views about Sarfraz are same. Aus or Dhoni will take care of him through their bowlers. Law of averages will catch up. If he is talking trash, then you can be a better person and speak some sense in return? So, what. Sohail still took 5 wickets and thats a big thing for a debutant. Lets see about that.
zen Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Can you name just 1 with stats to prove that he is world class? I already named them in my post that you quoted .... stats analysis w/o understanding the context is dumb. In case, you still don't get it, I wrote how Pak bowlers hunted as a group. Let's not forget bottle caps, umpiring in Pakistan, etc. :winky:
Pakistan Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 But they were eating only grass against India and West Indies ..:haha::haha: This is your country's specialty hence no world class fast bowler ever from land of billion people.
Pakistan Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Don't compare Sharjah pitch with Australian pitches. Yeah because Aussie pitches this summer are flatter than pitches at home of cricket UAE. :yay:
Pakistan Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 You are entitled to your opinion but get your facts right - Ind has produced some great bowlers such as the 4 great spinners' date= Kumble, Kapil, etc. .... And before that Md. Nissar and Amar Singh were rated highly as well Ind has probably produced more world class bowlers than Pakistan has produced world class batsmen It appears as if your memory has been corrupted by the Imran, Wasim and Waqar era. Let me tell you that those 3 were lucky to be playing when their careers overlapped as they could hunt as a group :winky: All you produce bowling version of Imran Nazir, players with world class potential but no record to back it.
game_changerr Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 All you produce bowling version of Imran Nazir' date=' players with world class potential but no record to back it. [/quote'] Yet u carried nazir for 15 years(97 debut?):giggle:
GrandMasterSaxy Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I believe last world class bowler for Pakistan was Wasim Akram, since then I didn't find anyone consistent and lethal. I don't understand what you boasting about. On the other hand, India is still producing world class batsmen.
Invasion 550 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Yet u carried nazir for 15 years(97 debut?):giggle: Yes, just like you guys are carrying Ishant bhaiya. :yay: I believe last world class bowler for Pakistan was Wasim Akram, since then I didn't find anyone consistent and lethal. I don't understand what you boasting about. On the other hand, India is still producing world class batsmen. World class bowlers since Wasim: Shoaib Akthar, Muhammad Amir, Mohammad Asif. You lost credibility with your last sentence. What world class batsman has india produced except Kohli after Sachin? By worldclass i assume you mean players who have performed everywhere.
Sidhoni Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Misbah- "Batting is coming apart now" :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: Gautam Bhimani @gbhimani Oops. Misbah meant to say batsmen are playing their part. Ended up saying batting is falling apart. #PAKvsIRE Gautam Bhimani @gbhimani Sort of combined falling into place and playing their part. Combined to falling apart. #Misbah #PAKvsIRE :giggle: :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
game_changerr Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Yes' date=' just like you guys are carrying Ishant bhaiya. :yay:[/quote'] Comparing bhaiya to a uncle:cantstop:still he won us champins trophy and lords test....sry 4 mentioning lords test:winky:
thecricketer Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 This is your country's specialty hence no world class fast bowler ever from land of billion people. But BCCI has more ICC trophies on their cup board than bowling power house PCB.
Invasion 550 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Comparing bhaiya to a uncle:cantstop:still he won us champins trophy and lords test....sry 4 mentioning lords test:winky: I can cite many examples of Imran Nazir winning us games single handedly as well brother. But nice subtle dig. Like it. :cantstop:
Invasion 550 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 But BCCI has more ICC trophies on their cup board than bowling power house PCB. True. There is no doubt about that. That just shows that Pakistan for most part had i) incapable captains or ii) mental weakness.
Guldozer Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 should be a really heartwarming moment. on topic, already down to yousuf and younis :hysterical: Srinath, Manoj Prabhakar, Harbhajji, Vinoo Mankad, even Agarkar are world class. :hysterical: I'm sorry but these cannot be considered world class. Averages of 30 are not world class. How many bowlers does India have that averaged below 25 and then compare how many batsmen Pakistan have had with average of 50 and above. You will get your answer.
vijay50 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 You should look into other poster autonomous's post to see why my response came. If you talk trash, you get the same back. Yeah Sohail took 5 wickets after India made more than 300 runs. But Shami took those wickets to bundle you guys out and finish the match. My views about Sarfraz are same. Aus or Dhoni will take care of him through their bowlers. Law of averages will catch up. But getting him out under 10? Which even the SA attack couldnt do. Either he is giving Indian bowlers too much credit or well he is under rating Sarf too much? Also, in the WC previous forms doesnt really matter i believe. We all saw how Indian team after not managing to win a single game for months showed up superbly in the tournament. He he. What did I tell you? Law if averages will catch up and Sarfraz will be out for 10 runs. See what happened? Also you or your friends said sarfraz can hit Indian trundlers. Well good luck till 2019. Sarfraz did not even get to the stage where Dhoni can take care.
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