KeyboardWarrior Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Groundbreaking ceremony of Aviation City held in Kamra : Pakistan announces 5th-gen fighter and medium-altitude long-endurance UAV programs. Quote ISLAMABAD: The groundbreaking ceremony of Aviation City and Air University Aerospace and Aviation Campus was held at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Kamra on Thursday. Aviation City would house various hi-tech and state of the art academic, research and development institutes which would pave way for achieving everlasting self reliance in the field of aviation industry. At the heart of Aviation City lies the Air University Aerospace and Aviation Campus which has been modeled after the internationally acclaimed Aviation Universities in the world and it would focus hands-on learning in state-of-the-art maintenance & avionics repair facilities, and first class simulation centers. An Aviation Research, Indigenization & Development (AvRID) would also be the part of aviation city which would primarily focus multi-disciplinary R&D in specific technologies. Another important institute the Aviation Design Institute (AvDI), being part of this mega project, would utilize the growing R&D potential of PAF and focus capability enhancement of the existing PAF fleet. This institute would also undertake the phase-wise designing, production and evaluation of fifth generation aircraft indigenously. https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/214819-Groundbreaking-ceremony-of-Aviation-City-held-in-Kamra The Concept Design of 5th Gen Fighter Edited July 15, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Nigerian Air Force takes delivery for the Second batch of Super Mushak Aircraft from Pakistan Armed Super Mashak for the Nigerian Air force for COIN and light attack equipped with Precision Guided Munitions and E/O Suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Pakistan Gets First Batch of 4, Mi-35M Assault Helicopters from Russia Quote Pakistan and Russia agreed to the $153 million helicopter deal during then-Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif’s visit to Russia in June 2016. A preliminary contract was concluded at the Pakistan Army General Headquarters in Rawalpindi in August 2015. Pakistan military sources indicate that PAAC could purchase a total of 20 Mi-35 helicopters in the coming years. “Given the cost of building the necessary Mi-35M logistics and maintenance infrastructure, expanding the fleet beyond four aircraft would financially be a sound decision for the Pakistani military. https://propakistani.pk/2017/08/28/pakistan-gets-first-batch-mi-35m-assault-helicopters/ http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/pakistan-receives-4-advanced-attack-helicopters-from-russia/ http://www.defenseworld.net/news/20421/Pakistan_Receives_Four_Russian_Mi_35M_Choppers#.WbGNyPMjHIU Congrats to Pak Army ..... Edited September 7, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Pakistan takes delivery of 36 SH-1 self-propelled howitzers Quote Recently released data by SIPRI has confirmed that 36 (out of 90 ordered) Norinco SH-1 155mm SP howitzers have been delivered to Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 in all the hoopla I think a big piece of news has been missed. Brahmos range has been extended to 450km.... test in march successful. I think its range should easily be increased to 800 km with Mach 10 possible. The key issue is mounting it on the MKI. If achieved that is a lethal combo. this extended range of Brahmos coupled with higher speeds where it can be deployed via land sea and air had the ability to not only change fundamentally the indian pakistan dynamic. But also the Russia eastern europe dynamic. All those missile defence systems mean squad if a jet fires it and it achieves mach 10 speeds. In a cross country conflict within say the range of 800 km it becomes unstoppable. With the Brahmos development it was initially all Russia. But India has now taken a lead in the project and it will be ironic if Russia equips their own Su-27 flankers or even upcoming Mig 35s with the Brahmos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 in all the hoopla I think a big piece of news has been missed. Brahmos range has been extended to 450km.... test in march successful. I think its range should easily be increased to 800 km with Mach 10 possible. The key issue is mounting it on the MKI. If achieved that is a lethal combo. this extended range of Brahmos coupled with higher speeds where it can be deployed via land sea and air had the ability to not only change fundamentally the indian pakistan dynamic. But also the Russia eastern europe dynamic. All those missile defence systems mean squad if a jet fires it and it achieves mach 10 speeds. In a cross country conflict within say the range of 800 km it becomes unstoppable. With the Brahmos development it was initially all Russia. But India has now taken a lead in the project and it will be ironic if Russia equips their own Su-27 flankers or even upcoming Mig 35s with the BrahmosBrahmos is based on P 800 Oniks which has a range of 600km.Brahmos's range was artificially suppressed to 290km as India was not part of MTCR.Since India became a member of MTCR they have started removing those artificial barriers and full 600km range will be revealed soon.This is why all older Brahmos will also become 600km in range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: 4 hours ago, G_B_ said: in all the hoopla I think a big piece of news has been missed. Brahmos range has been extended to 450km.... test in march successful. I think its range should easily be increased to 800 km with Mach 10 possible. The key issue is mounting it on the MKI. If achieved that is a lethal combo. this extended range of Brahmos coupled with higher speeds where it can be deployed via land sea and air had the ability to not only change fundamentally the indian pakistan dynamic. But also the Russia eastern europe dynamic. All those missile defence systems mean squad if a jet fires it and it achieves mach 10 speeds. In a cross country conflict within say the range of 800 km it becomes unstoppable. With the Brahmos development it was initially all Russia. But India has now taken a lead in the project and it will be ironic if Russia equips their own Su-27 flankers or even upcoming Mig 35s with the Brahmos Brahmos is based on P 800 Oniks which has a range of 600km.Brahmos's range was artificially suppressed to 290km as India was not part of MTCR.Since India became a member of MTCR they have started removing those artificial barriers and full 600km range will be revealed soon.This is why all older Brahmos will also become 600km in range. I do believe the Oniks had an accuracy issue and was only a naval missile, aimed for hunting submarines. Yes i agree that range was artificially capped. the traditional Brahmos can carry a 300kg weapon the key question is that will the 800km Brahmos mounted on jets (if) how much payload can it carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 10 hours ago, G_B_ said: I do believe the Oniks had an accuracy issue and was only a naval missile, aimed for hunting submarines. Yes i agree that range was artificially capped. the traditional Brahmos can carry a 300kg weapon the key question is that will the 800km Brahmos mounted on jets (if) how much payload can it carry MKIs are being modified to carry 1 Brahmos.With 300kg payload. The Brahmos is based on Oniks, its not the Oniks.The range was suppressed using software limitation and by reducing the fuel capacity or the fuel tank by compartmentalising it. G_B_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Last Month Quote Trump’s Request for India’s Help in Afghanistan Rattles Pakistan https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/world/asia/pakistan-trump-afghanistan-india.html And today, two weeks later Quote India agrees to provide further defence assistance to Afghanistan http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-agrees-to-provide-further-defence-assistance-to-afghanistan/articleshow/60462939.cms Strategic partnership with Afghanistan article of faith for India: Sushma http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/strategic-partnership-with-afghanistan-article-of-faith-for-india-sushma/story-6ZlDMybPMFamam8OO9SHiP.html Sushma Swaraj issued a joint statement with her Afghanistan counterpart Salahuddin Rabbani Still not Check Mate but definitely a Check! Edited September 11, 2017 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 7/15/2017 at 8:57 AM, KeyboardWarrior said: Groundbreaking ceremony of Aviation City held in Kamra : Pakistan announces 5th-gen fighter and medium-altitude long-endurance UAV programs. https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/214819-Groundbreaking-ceremony-of-Aviation-City-held-in-Kamra The Concept Design of 5th Gen Fighter kb do you guys manufacture a motorbike ? G_B_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ^ a needle would be appropriate question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 an export version of J20? or JXX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 an export version of J20? or JXX? J 20 is a hype.China bought su 35 from Russia this year as J20 is well you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 13 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: 14 hours ago, G_B_ said: an export version of J20? or JXX? J 20 is a hype.China bought su 35 from Russia this year as J20 is well you know... come on dude its not as if the JF17 is some sort of world beater. I am sure Pak will take the J20 "export" version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 and i dont understand what Su35 has to do with a fifth gen craft. Stealth is one feature which separates gen 4 from gen 5 Where is that on the Su35? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: and i dont understand what Su35 has to do with a fifth gen craft. Stealth is one feature which separates gen 4 from gen 5 Where is that on the Su35? If J20 be as capable as hyped or even anywhere ready China wont be ordering SU 35s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 20 hours ago, Vilander said: kb do you guys manufacture a motorbike ? why re-invent the wheel if its already invented ? even if we dont manufacture a car or bike at home, that doesnt mean we cant do something big, thats why we need to do R&D and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: If J20 be as capable as hyped or even anywhere ready China wont be ordering SU 35s. sorry but you are seriously underestimating the chinese tech in Aerosapce. need to read some US military experts and articles about J-20. becoz US isnt underestimating the J-20. Su-35s were ordered becoz of its known platform of Su-30 mkk, and is in the category of 4.5+ Gen. J-20 is still needed to be produced and deployed in first full batch, it will take couple of years for them to deployed the first full batch of J-20. just saying.. Edited September 12, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 19 hours ago, G_B_ said: an export version of J20? or JXX? maybe JV with china for J-31, or Turkish TFX, or maybe something new. dont know yet. but PAF is surely looking ahead for the next 5th Gen aircraft after the the completion of the JF-17 project. theres a news that chinese and turks are looking for JV partner in 5th Gen project. China is intrested in J-31 project for PLAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, KeyboardWarrior said: why re-invent the wheel if its already invented ? even if we dont manufacture a car or bike at home, that doesnt mean we cant do something big, thats why we need to do R&D and all. its down to ability, simple to do r&d and manufacture 5th gen fighters for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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