Tiger80 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Twenty woodcutters from Tamil Nadu, found felling red sanders, were killed in an alleged encounter in the Seshachalam forest at the foot of the Tirumala hills on Tuesday. The newly formed Red-sanders Anti-Smuggling Taskforce was on a combing operation near Srinivasa Mangapuram, Srivarimettu and Eethagunta on the Seshachalam hill ranges on Monday when they spotted footprints. One taskforce group moved towards Eethagunta, and the other towards Cheekateegalakona. On finding over 100 woodcutters felling trees and carrying logs, the officials asked them to surrender. However, the woodcutters rained stones and hurled sickles at the team, injuring some of them. “We fired random shots in self-defence,†a taskforce member said on condition of anonymity. A.P. CM briefs Rajnath, Governor Following the encounter in which 20 woodcutters were shot dead by Andhra Pradesh’s red sanders anti-smuggling taskforce, Chief Minister N. Chandrababu Naidu held a high-level review meeting with Ministers and top officials. He also spoke over the phone with Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh and Governor E.S.L Narasimhan and briefed them on the incident. There was tension in some villages in Chittoor district with a large Tamil-speaking population, while about 10 buses of APSRTC (Tirupati region) were damaged at two places in Chennai by mobs apparently in reaction to the gunning down of the woodcutters. Eight of the slain woodcutters were believed to be from Namiyambattu village in Tiruvannamalai district, eight from Sankarapuram in Villupuram district and four from Vellore district of Tamil Nadu. The policemen recovered axes, sickles, red sanders logs and some empty bullet shells from the scene of encounter, apart from four country-made guns reportedly wielded by some of the woodcutters. The A.P. police department was in touch with their Tamil Nadu counterparts to get their identity established. The revenue officials found the task of conducting ‘Panchanama’ daunting, as it was very difficult to reach the spot. Though the district authorities reportedly directed four Tahsildars of the contiguous mandals to rush their staff to the spot to hasten the process, inaccessibility in the form of rocky terrain and the not-so-motorable path, besides the blistering heat, proved a dampener. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/20-red-sanders-smugglers-shot-dead-in-chittoor-encounter/article7076614.ece
Raghav_12 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 This incident needed to be dicussed in separate thread. Condemnable. Hope all police offcers involved prosecuted for IPC 302.
vvvslaxman Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Opinions are divided on this issue from TN. Some say they deserve it. Some say it was execution as they were not randomly attacked considering bullet entry was through either chest or head for everyone to protect few . Later is more plausible.
Tiger80 Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 Opinions are divided on this issue from TN. Some say they deserve it. Some say it was execution as they were not randomly attacked considering bullet entry was through either chest or head for everyone to protect few . Later is more plausible. Even if they are guilty I don't think law allow police persons to shoot unless police comes under attack
Raghav_12 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 They were no smugglers but laborers employed by smugglers. A survivor of encounter has been found who is being kept hidden to "save" him from police. As per some of the unconfirmed reports 7 of the 20 killed were first arrested.
Kalia_Test Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 They were no smugglers but laborers employed by smugglers. A survivor of encounter has been found who is being kept hidden to "save" him from police. As per some of the unconfirmed reports 7 of the 20 killed were first arrested. What do you think would be the motive for police to kill poor and weak laborers? The killed are not hardened criminals nor would they have killed any policemen earlier ( to rule out vengeance angle ). Do you think the policemen are sadists? They will do it because THEY wanted to do it? I repeat - killing unarmed laborers. Have you ever thought of any other bigger story at play here? Are you aware of the history, politics, people, angles, elections, revenge, vendetta, one-upmanship, politicians using regional card of this red sanders issue ? Just asking BTW.
Detonator Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Opinions are divided on this issue from TN. Some say they deserve it. Some say it was execution as they were not randomly attacked considering bullet entry was through either chest or head for everyone to protect few . Later is more plausible. Either way they are low level labours from poorest section. Very sad indeed. Not so long ago tirupathi dgp warned poachers that they will shoot at sight. Somewhere i read that there are more than 200 poachers roaming around, and this 20 are just part of that bigger mob. Hope others learn and stay away from illegal poaching. RIP.
Raghav_12 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 What do you think would be the motive for police to kill poor and weak laborers? The killed are not hardened criminals nor would they have killed any policemen earlier ( to rule out vengeance angle ). Do you think the policemen are sadists? They will do it because THEY wanted to do it? I repeat - killing unarmed laborers. Have you ever thought of any other bigger story at play here? Cold blooded murders. Mass murders. Are you aware of the history, politics, people, angles, elections, revenge, vendetta, one-upmanship, politicians using regional card of this red sanders issue ? Just asking BTW. None of these things give police a right to kill 20 unarmed laborers in cold blood. Do you realize what you are condoning here? I can give possible 100 reasons why police would have killed them. But in the end they killed 20 men which they didn't have to kill necessarily.
vvvslaxman Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Will wait for Human Rights commission verdict on it. It is sure a bizarre case where there is not a single witness.
Raghav_12 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Will wait for Human Rights commission verdict on it. It is sure a bizarre case where there is not a single witness. They have found at least one. Andhra red sanders killings case: 'Survivor' traced, to be produced before NHRC http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/andhra-police-encounter-survivor-surfaces-rights-group-to-produce-him-before-nhrc/article1-1335075.aspx Chilling photos.
Kalia_Test Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 None of these things give police a right to kill 20 unarmed laborers in cold blood. Do you realize what you are condoning here? I can give possible 100 reasons why police would have killed them. But in the end they killed 20 men which they didn't have to kill necessarily. On bolded, you are speculating as no enquiry concluded so far. And passing judgement based on news is very dangerous. Where have I condoned anything? Hear me out... I am not passing any verdict of whether police killed or not. Just like the laborers were probably used by 'bigger' powers, is it not possible that 'bigger' powers used AP Police?
Raghav_12 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 On bolded, you are speculating as no enquiry concluded so far. And passing judgement based on news is very dangerous. Where have I condoned anything? Hear me out... I am not passing any verdict of whether police killed or not. Just like the laborers were probably used by 'bigger' powers, is it not possible that 'bigger' powers used AP Police? then let Police be punished for working as contract killers for bigger powers, if that is the case.
Raghav_12 Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 They don't look armed Even police version doesn't claim that they were armed.
Kalia_Test Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 then let Police be punished for working as contract killers for bigger powers' date=' if that is the case.[/quote'] No. The contract laborers have also done a grave criminal offense by that logic. They were 'contracted' too after all.
CSK Fan Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 No. The contract laborers have also done a grave criminal offense by that logic. They were 'contracted' too after all. Eh, is the punishment a death sentence? And are the police supposed to be judge, jusry and executioners?
Kalia_Test Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Eh' date=' is the punishment a death sentence? And are the police supposed to be judge, jusry and executioners?[/quote'] Where have I said it? Quote me please.
CSK Fan Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Where have I said it? Quote me please. Then how are you comparing cutting some trees with shooting someone down in cold blood? (post 15)
vvvslaxman Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 SOmething doesn't add up. Hard to take sides at this point. Something sure went awry. Hope we get to hear the story of survivor as well.
velu Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 this looks like police wants to send a message .. guess even sandalwood veerapaan was encountered and TN police gave colorful reasons if i am not wrong
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