adi B Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Federer's BP conversion says it all. He isn't clutch enough like Djoker or Nadal. Kinda like Sachin with impressive numbers but not the GOAT. Again you are comparing a 34 year old washed up guy with a guy who's at his prime. I hope you remain consistent with your opinion once Djokovic gets 30+ and loses his clutchness and accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 This is wrong man.if you watched Federer from 03-07 you'd know how well he used to play and how dominating his style of play was with minimal errors. People forget that and compare this Federer (the present one ) with Djokovic of today.but that being said,a prime Federer,rafa,djoko playing together would have been a pleasure to watch for all tennis fans You are wrong. Two days ago everyone was saying that Federer is playing as well as he ever played. But this level of game easily won him multiple grandslams. But that same level of game couldn't win him a single grandslam in today's field. Now fedeters best ever is not enough to win a Wimbledon or beat an in form Djokovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 :(( congrats Djokovic :hatsoff: well played Federer :cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I think Rafa has got another comeback left in him. Grinders like that don't just fade. On the topic of GOATness, Is Serena the GOAT (or almost there) or has the pathetic state of women's tennis over the last decade allowed her to stat pad like in the case of Fed? I mean would her serve allow her to dominate 80's, 90's era women like she does the runway models of today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 You are wrong. Two days ago everyone was saying that Federer is playing as well as he ever played. But this level of game easily won him multiple grandslams. But that same level of game couldn't win him a single grandslam in today's field. Now fedeters best ever is not enough to win a Wimbledon or beat an in form Djokovic. Its a way of saying that he was playing really well compared to last 3-4 years. You think he was playing at 03-07 level? Lol ,these days fed might play an absolute cracking match one day then become Federror the next day(not talking about today). In his prime ,fed used to play at a very high level matches after matches because he was young,he can't maintain those standards and stamina nowadays. That being said he played very very well against murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Again you are comparing a 34 year old washed up guy with a guy who's at his prime. I hope you remain consistent with your opinion once Djokovic gets 30+ and loses his clutchness and accuracy Guy was never clutch even 7 years back against Nadal, Djoker etc. He is the Sachin of tennis: greatest talent, awesome numbers but inability to step up in crisis situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 All things said and done Federer's win over Murray was the highlight of this year's edition:peerless unmatched beauty.:two_thumbs_up: Pity he isn't good enough to win any more majors against the current field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 All said and done novak can make a GOAT case for himself in the next Couple of years by winning few more slams but he has to win the FO. He is already an ATG and will probably end as one of the GOATs by the time he retires ,he has 4 atp WTF titles as well (he'll win 2-3 more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Looking forward to the American HC swing now. Id love to see new swashbuckling players come into thescene and step up at the USO just like cilic and kei did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumar713 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Congrats Nole:hail: djokivic under achieved in Us open. Hope he wins few more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Its a way of saying that he was playing really well compared to last 3-4 years. You think he was playing at 03-07 level? Lol ,these days fed might play an absolute cracking match one day then become Federror the next day(not talking about today). In his prime ,fed used to play at a very high level matches after matches because he was young,he can't maintain those standards and stamina nowadays. That being said he played very very well against murray He wasn't bad today and after Murray's match everybody was telling he is playing as good he ever played. The level he played today was good enough to win trophy against the fields of Roddick, Bagdatis, Safins and Hewitt. But in strong field of Djoko, Nadal and Murray he has been found wanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep1706 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He wasn't bad today and after Murray's match everybody was telling he is playing as good he ever played. The level he played today was good enough to win trophy against the fields of Roddick' date=' Bagdatis, Safins and Hewitt. But in strong field of Djoko, Nadal and Murray he has been found wanting.[/quote'] I would not put Murray in the same category as Djokovic or Nadal. Djokovic and Nadal would end their careers as Tier 1 greats. Murray would be lucky to get to tier 3. But yes, Federer would have beaten the Hewitts, Roddicks, Baghdatis, Philipussis, Gonzalez etc. with ease today. He started off playing as good as he did against Murray. Djokovic just did not buckle under pressure and played a solid first set TB, from then on Federer was always chasing the game. i genuinely believed that Federer was playing well enough to beat Djokovic on grass, Djokovic like Nadal has done so many times stepped it up against Federer when it mattered. It was an impressive performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I would not put Murray in the same category as Djokovic or Nadal. Djokovic and Nadal would end their careers as Tier 1 greats. Murray would be lucky to get to tier 3. But yes' date= Federer would have beaten the Hewitts, Roddicks, Baghdatis, Philipussis, Gonzalez etc. with ease today. He started off playing as good as he did against Murray. Djokovic just did not buckle under pressure and played a solid first set TB, from then on Federer was always chasing the game. i genuinely believed that Federer was playing well enough to beat Djokovic on grass, Djokovic like Nadal has done so many times stepped it up against Federer when it mattered. It was an impressive performance. Of course he doesn't belong there. But his presence adds to the strength of the field which already has Djoko, Federer and Nadal. After this match Federer-Djoko H2H stands at 20-20 after 40 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep1706 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Of course he doesn't belong there. But his presence adds to the strength of the field which already has Djoko, Federer and Nadal. After this match Federer-Djoko H2H stands at 20-20 after 40 matches. Federer had to win the first set today. He had multiple chances. First he was a break up and then was 15-40 in the last game. Credit goes to Djokovic for playing aggressive solid tennis to save those moments. That is where he is so much better than Murray. I am not even talking about his second serve or his FH where he has distinct advantage over Murray. If Federer had won that First set it would have been a really tight match. Again Djokovic showed what a great champion he is when it mattered. That is what separates the great players from the good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooda Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He wasn't bad today and after Murray's match everybody was telling he is playing as good he ever played. The level he played today was good enough to win trophy against the fields of Roddick' date=' Bagdatis, Safins and Hewitt. But in strong field of Djoko, Nadal and Murray he has been found wanting.[/quote'] Age definitely plays a factor here, yes Federer is playing great but fatigue catches up quicker on someone who is 34 than on someone who is 28. Fed has beaten Novak enough times over even the last few years - Shanghai and Monte Carlo last year to name two- he just can not anymore in a best of 5 sets match IMO. if you want to look a bit further back at majors.. 2012 Wimbledon Semi, 2011 French Semi when Novak was on a 40 match wining streak . Of course he has done it in clutch situations. Also just because he was not facing Rafa and Novak when he was at his peak dosent mean the situations were somehow less clutchy. Having said that the H2H since 2011 is 13-7 in Novaks favour ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep1706 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Paes and Hingis won the mixed doubles title. Very good Wimbledon for Indians. Sumit Nagal also won boys' doubles. That is 3 titles in one championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Paes and Hingis won the mixed doubles title. Very good Wimbledon for Indians. Sumit Nagal also won boys' doubles. That is 3 titles in one championship. Now Paes has 16 GS titles, just one shy of Federer :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 What's the farthest any Indian has ever progressed in the WTA tournaments in singles? :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 What's the farthest any Indian has ever progressed in the WTA tournaments in singles? :hmmm: Sania Mirza - 4th round in US open and 3rd Round in Aus open. Not surprising as at once she had reached to the world rank of 27. It's a pity we are left to celebrate her doubles victories only. She always had talent to make it big in singles but lack of hard work and commitment forced her to opt for easier option of doubles. I think Nirupama Vaidyanathan is only other Indian women player who managed to play in main draw of a grand slam tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Now Paes has 16 GS titles' date=' just one shy of Federer :P[/quote'] Expect many Indians to buy that BS. Yesterday a few so called Indian sports journalists & fans on social media were comparing him to Federer, Edberg, Becker, Djokovic etc calling Paes as the best of the lot due to his longevity. :hysterical::hysterical: Probably around 10k players(all time) better than him in singles and our country starved of sporting heroes has made a hero out of this mediocre athlete. Honestly we should be celebrating Ramanathan Krishnan and Vijay Amritraj in stead of these doubles specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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