Brainfade Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Why or why not? For the sake of this debate, let's assume that all parties involved give full consent to the relationship/s.
zen Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Pursuit of Polygamy / Polyandry depends up on a variety of factors including the sex ratio. In India, the sex ratio (iirc) is 940 F to 1000 M, so depending up on how things go in future, such a thing could become a reality. For e.g. in Nepal, if I am not wrong, Polyandry is acceptable However, in most cultures, having multiple partners is seen as a taboo so there are various challenges too that need to be overcome to make it legal
diga Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 wasnt Polyandry practiced in Haryana sometime back when the sex ratio was really down? For that matter Draupadi was one of the earliest
zen Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 wasnt Polyandry practiced in Haryana sometime back when the sex ratio was really down? For that matter Draupadi was one of the earliest That was a different era though (3000+ BC) .... And at that time, iirc, Polyandry was not as common as Polygamy
diga Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 That was a different era though (3000+ BC) .... And at that time' date=' iirc, Polyandry was not as common as Polygamy[/quote'] No idea if it did happen.. but whoever wrote it first, was way ahead of his time
moniker Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Yeah, right! Let's say a man marries a couple of women each one of whom marries a couple of other men and so on.. Throw a couple of same sex marriages in between. We can see how this can spiral out of control pretty quickly. A marriage is called a union between a couple for a reason. Keeps it simple. Of course if your spouse is ok with you having an extra marital relationship, go for it. Just don't call that a marriage.
Brainfade Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 Pursuit of Polygamy / Polyandry depends up on a variety of factors including the sex ratio. In India, the sex ratio (iirc) is 940 F to 1000 M, so depending up on how things go in future, such a thing could become a reality. For e.g. in Nepal, if I am not wrong, Polyandry is acceptable However, in most cultures, having multiple partners is seen as a taboo so there are various challenges too that need to be overcome to make it legal Being taboo is not a good enough reason to disallow it. Gay marriage is taboo in Christian, Islamic and Hindu cultures; that does not automatically make it illegal.
Brainfade Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 Yeah, right! Let's say a man marries a couple of women each one of whom marries a couple of other men and so on.. Throw a couple of same sex marriages in between. We can see how this can spiral out of control pretty quickly. A marriage is called a union between a couple for a reason. Keeps it simple. Of course if your spouse is ok with you having an extra marital relationship, go for it. Just don't call that a marriage. Why not? Just because something is complicated, it should not be illegal. If all adult parties consent to these relationships, they must be legalized. The parties involved can deal with the complications.
gs Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Having to deal with multiple sets of in-laws!! :nervous:
zen Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Being taboo is not a good enough reason to disallow it. Gay marriage is taboo in Christian' date=' Islamic and Hindu cultures; that does not automatically make it illegal.[/quote'] Agree .... However to make such practices legal, those tasked with changing the laws should have the ability to think at a different level. If they believe that such practices are taboo, it would be hard to move forward Also such decisions should depend up on factors such as sex ratio too
Brainfade Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 Agree .... However to make such practices legal, those tasked with changing the laws should have the ability to think at a different level. If they believe that such practices are taboo, it would be hard to move forward Also such decisions should depend up on factors such as sex ratio too The question is not "will it become legal?" It is "should it become legal?" Is it a civil-rights issue that adults who want to have multiple spouses cannot do so and avail the benefits of marriage just because some others think it is wrong?
zen Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 The question is not "will it become legal?" It is "should it become legal?" Is it a civil-rights issue that adults who want to have multiple spouses cannot do so and avail the benefits of marriage just because some others think it is wrong? In that case "no" unless factors such as sex ratio create an imbalance (scientific reasons) After doing a quick cost-benefit analysis in my mind, the following costs out weights potential benefits: a) Rights of someone who married the person assuming that the other person would not remarry b) Threat to older ladies whose husbands could simply re-marry someone younger and carry on with their lives c) Women, esp. in subcontinent's context, being under extra pressure to please their husbands d) Being married is a responsibility. Many people wishing to remarry may not be able to support (including emotional support) multiple spouses e) Even in Islam where Polygamy is permitted, many Muslims do not see it as a healthy practice f) Like in olden times, some families would simply get their daughters married off to strike strategic alliances (Jodha-Akbar) Some people may be mature enough to make Polygamy / Polyandry a success, however our society in general is not at this point in time. I feel that the chances of women getting exploited would increase .... Those few who may have it in them to make such relationships a success can find a way (for e.g. Dharmendra-Hema Malani case) including exploring "live-in" arrangements :dontknow:
fineleg Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 One of those theoretical topics that can be discussed if we have lotsa free time on hand. The complications are far too much to make any legal thing out of this. The answer to OP is no.
Crookbond Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 One of those theoretical topics that can be discussed if we have lotsa free time on hand. The complications are far too much to make any legal thing out of this. The answer to OP is no. These "far too much time" arguments don't work for civil rights. They are of prime importance in a democracy no matter how much time, resources you have to "waste" on it.
Crookbond Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 In that case "no" unless factors such as sex ratio create an imbalance (scientific reasons) After doing a quick cost-benefit analysis in my mind, the following costs out weights potential benefits: a) Rights of someone who married the person assuming that the other person would not remarry b) Threat to older ladies whose husbands could simply re-marry someone younger and carry on with their lives c) Women, esp. in subcontinent's context, being under extra pressure to please their husbands d) Being married is a responsibility. Many people wishing to remarry may not be able to support (including emotional support) multiple spouses e) Even in Islam where Polygamy is permitted, many Muslims do not see it as a healthy practice f) Like in olden times, some families would simply get their daughters married off to strike strategic alliances (Jodha-Akbar) Some people may be mature enough to make Polygamy / Polyandry a success, however our society in general is not at this point in time. I feel that the chances of women getting exploited would increase .... Those few who may have it in them to make such relationships a success can find a way (for e.g. Dharmendra-Hema Malani case) including exploring "live-in" arrangements :dontknow: Once again, these arguments (society not mature and cost-benefit) doesn't work for civil rights arguments. Civil laws are supposed to be ahead of time.
Brainfade Posted June 29, 2015 Author Posted June 29, 2015 One of those theoretical topics that can be discussed if we have lotsa free time on hand. The complications are far too much to make any legal thing out of this. The answer to OP is no. Some one at some time with lotsa time on his/her hands asked "Hmm, shouldn't we allow gays to marry?"
zen Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Once again' date=' these arguments (society not mature and cost-benefit) doesn't work for civil rights arguments. Civil laws are supposed to be ahead of time.[/quote'] Wouldn't you consider various scenarios that are likely to happen in the present and future (along with the learning from the past), and weigh the pros and cons before passing a law?
Crookbond Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Wouldn't you consider various scenarios that are likely to happen in the present and future (along with the learning from the past)' date=' and weigh the pros and cons before passing a law?[/quote'] Civil rights are ABSOLUTE in a democracy and the fundamental pillars. If there are cons, you address the cons as a result of those absolutes - you don't change the absolute benchmarks.
Desi Cartman Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Its legal in India. People are free to **** whomever they want to and if they want to legalize then they should ask for it. I have heard legalizing it as a counter to legalizing gay marriage but haven't met people who are actually fighting for polygamy as their legal and rightful right.
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