BCCI warns PCB of calling off ties after terror attack

[Lannister]

I am really surprised to know that they are still asking for proofs that terrorists are coming from Pakistan. If anyone who's brainwashed it's gotta be the delusional Pakis.

[Unicorn]

Here are some non-Indian sources for you - So, USA, UK, Afganistan.. all of them accusing Pakistan of exporting terror to the neighborhood is also Indian media driven propaganda?

And this is exactly what I call media brain-washing. You are taking these statements in the your own context. -) Musharaff also has said that RAW is involved in such incidents in Pakistan. So you pick the statements of him which you like and disregard others? -) Condoliza Rice said that their is evidence of elements in Pakistan involved in Mumbai attacks. That doesn't imply that the state of Pakistan is breeding them. And that Mumbai attacks is a separate discussion. Ask you govt. what that evidence is apart from Kasab's statement. And how they refused Pakistan's team to visit India to investigate Kasab. Had they allowed that, you would have got your wish of Pakistan penalizing Hafiz Saeed or whoever was responsible.

UK PM David Cameron warns Pakistan over export of terror to India and Afgnistan

See the context here. He said that when Manmohan ran to him for complaining Pakistan while he was refusing to have negotiations with Pakistan at same time. It wasn't a global intelligence report as you claimed earlier. -) As for Afghanistan, its because we have allowed millions of refuges from Afghanistan that we are suffering all this. Before that, nothing of that sort used to happen. You think that term 'Taliban' was originated in Pakistan? Go through history and find out the roots of it. Secondly, Afghanistan only has issues with tribal areas, and those areas do have those militants which army has been clearing in current operation if that satisfies you. But you guys portray it as if Pakistan is sponsoring that terrorism, when it is suffering from it more than anyone else.

[Debutant]

All the world media is wrong but Madrassa mullahs are the only real source of information :clap:

[cric_fan]

This series will not happen. BCCI has been beating around the bush waiting for an excuse.

[Unicorn]

India did/do not blame ISI?pak Military for attacks carried out by Naxals. They have killed a lot of paramilitary and police personnels. India do/did not blame ISI?pak Military for attacks carried out by SIMI . India do/not not blame ISI?pak Military for ULFA/BODO/MIZO/Naga attacks carried out in North Eastern states. It did not blame ISI?Pak Military for Samjhota Express attacks. So when it blames ISI/Pak Military for a attack, Its not from thin Air. They are your terrorist createdbceause of faulty decision by your leaders and killing your people. But we have right to protest/act if they kill our civillians

Samjhota Express? It were Pakistanis who died in that incident and that was Indian army personal involved in it as he admitted it himself. But unlike India, Pakistan don't go berserk and rush around all over the world to declare India terrorist. If they are not from air, what right does Indian media have to declare Pakistan responsible within half an hour of an incident without any proof? They are terrorist, yes, In Mumbai attack's case, yes they were from Pakistan, but that doesn't mean that state of Pakistan was breeding them. To stop its land being used against terrorism in Pakistan itself and India as well, Pakistan need cooperation, not this blame game which your politicians so adore. Unless India change its attitude, they Pakistan can't help controlling those terrorists and India unfortunately have to face incidents like this in future.

[Austin 3:!6]

Stick to Cricket - Wanabe Mod

[swatpulla]

And this is exactly what I call media brain-washing. You are taking these statements in the your own context. -) Musharaff also has said that RAW is involved in such incidents in Pakistan. So you pick the statements of him which you like and disregard others? -) Condoliza Rice said that their is evidence of elements in Pakistan involved in Mumbai attacks. That doesn't imply that the state of Pakistan is breeding them. And that Mumbai attacks is a separate discussion. Ask you govt. what that evidence is apart from Kasab's statement. And how they refused Pakistan's team to visit India to investigate Kasab. Had they allowed that, you would have got your wish of Pakistan penalizing Hafiz Saeed or whoever was responsible. See the context here. He said that when Manmohan ran to him for complaining Pakistan while he was refusing to have negotiations with Pakistan at same time. It wasn't a global intelligence report as you claimed earlier. -) As for Afghanistan, its because we have allowed millions of refuges from Afghanistan that we are suffering all this. Before that, nothing of that sort used to happen. You think that term 'Taliban' was originated in Pakistan? Go through history and find out the roots of it. Secondly, Afghanistan only has issues with tribal areas, and those areas do have those militants which army has been clearing in current operation if that satisfies you. But you guys portray it as if Pakistan is sponsoring that terrorism, when it is suffering from it more than anyone else.

Ofcourse Musharraf will blame India, but why would he accept having terrorist camps in Pakistan? Maybe because it's an open secret? Condolizza Rice said that there was "irrefutable evidence" about Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai attacks .. that was said in Pakistan, reports came from your trusted sources, you can't even blame Indian media here. US officials directly blamed ISI involvement for Kabul attacks, there are no ifs and buts here. Afganistan's intelligence has blamed Pakistan for terrorist attacks that it suffers. It's great you take their refugees, but how does that change their concerns? There are thousands of references even from Pakistan media where they accept it's land being used for training terrorists. You certainly are in a denial mode, and seemingly nothing can change that. I get that Pakistan today is probably the biggest victim of terror, but these terrorists are all the people you nurtured. Taliban's origins don't matter, what matters is which country has been helping them flourish for the last 2 decades. Answers are well known, but you can keep denying that. I won't contest your claims hereon.

[Guldozer]

So it is proven that Pakistan did the attack because some low IQ people in the Indian media said so? Aren't these the same people who claimed there was a Pakistani boat with explosives? We all know what it was. You guys don't even realise that you're the ones living in denial. Idiots.

[swatpulla]

So it is proven that Pakistan did the attack because some low IQ people in the Indian media said so? Aren't these the same people who claimed there was a Pakistani boat with explosives? We all know what it was. You guys don't even realise that you're the ones living in denial. Idiots.

This time, no one from India has claimed evidence, and investigation right now is all about connecting the dots. Just because there is no concrete proof this time does not mean that Indians would shy away from putting forward a more plausible theory. It is just like Pakistan blaming India for involvement in Balochistan. There is no concrete evidence, but they connected the dots, and reached a conclusion of Indian involvement. Btw earlier false report of that boat was exposed by the same low IQ Indian media.

[Unicorn]

Ofcourse Musharraf will blame India, but why would he accept having terrorist camps in Pakistan? Maybe because it's an open secret?

That exactly shows, how you think mate. Musharaff gave proof for none of those but ofcourse you will remember the one you like.

Condolizza Rice said that there was "irrefutable evidence" about Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai attacks .. that was said in Pakistan, reports came from your trusted sources, you can't even blame Indian media here.

She said about the elements in Pakistan. There is a difference in Pakistan and elements in Pakistan. The first one means that the state in involved while the second one doesn't.

Afganistan's intelligence has blamed Pakistan for terrorist attacks that it suffers. It's great you take their refugees, but how does that change their concerns?

Because this problem has jinxed Pakistan since we took their refuges. Many of their militants cross the border once Pakistan opened it for refuges. That opened the way for terrorist activities in Pakistan and it all started there on. So the source of all that such that Pakistan is suffering is Afghanistan itself.

There are thousands of references even from Pakistan media where they accept it's land being used for training terrorists. You certainly are in a denial mode, and seemingly nothing can change that. I get that Pakistan today is probably the biggest victim of terror, but these terrorists are all the people you nurtured. Taliban's origins don't matter, what matters is which country has been helping them flourish for the last 2 decades. Answers are well known, but you can keep denying that. I won't contest your claims hereon.

No. The world media says that the land of Pakistan is being used. Again, you guys interpret it the way you want. Its Indian buddies who have wrong impressions of the things, not rest of the world. 'Land of Pakistan used' don't mean that Pakistan, the state is sponsoring them and thats what you guys don't realize. They clearly use words like 'land of Pakistan being used' or 'elements in Pakistan' which you translate your way. Pakistan is far from denial at the moment. They do realize that their land is being used and as I said earlier, the army is washing them out. But it takes time. You guys think by taking advantage of such incidents in your country and pressurizing Pakistan would help you, but in longer run, its going to bite you again. Because, as soon as any such as Indian media start reporting this, Pakistan high alert their India border which means that they have to stop the operation against terrorists in Western side. In longer term, those same terrorist against which Pakistan has been fighting against will do such activities in India. Sooner India realize that cooperating with Pakistan is going to help them, better it is.

[Guldozer]

Oh they do' date=' that's why the whole world blames the poor country that is your's.[/quote'] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8867353/Indian-poverty-levels-higher-than-Pakistans-says-UN-report.html

[Guldozer]

This is a funny video. That reporter is a typical ICF poster. Living in denial. hzcdC9dySI8

[panther]

It's good that Pak does not play India anytime soon, let's be honest they would beat us easily.

[Kalia_Test]

That exactly shows, how you think mate. Musharaff gave proof for none of those but ofcourse you will remember the one you like.

First one about Pakistan creating terrorists in Kashmir is an admission/confession since he was General of Army and President too. He would know. Needs no proof. Second is accusation about R&AW ( another party ). This accusation needs proof. and none was provided. I thought it was simple common sense but apparently not.

[Unicorn]

First one about Pakistan creating terrorists in Kashmir is an admission/confession since he was General of Army and President too. He would know. Needs no proof.

He would know is no reason. Nothing that can be challenged in any court without any evidence. I thought that was a common sense. Apparently not. Musharaff is dishing out rubbish ever since removed. About Vajepai, Kargill, Sharif everyone. No one takes him seriously here. But that doesn't matter, isn't it? If he still say anything that suits your claim, you will accept that anyways.

[Austin 3:!6]

This is done by Pakistan / thread

[swatpulla]

This thread sums up why Pakistan is on it's way to a glorious future. Let's wish them luck. :cantstop:

[Kalia_Test]

He would know is no reason. Nothing that can be challenged in any court without any evidence. I thought that was a common sense. Apparently not. Musharaff is dishing out rubbish ever since removed. About Vajepai, Kargill, Sharif everyone. No one takes him seriously here. But that doesn't matter, isn't it? If he still say anything that suits your claim, you will accept that anyways.

Read this SLOWLY - In first case HE ( Musharraf) IS THE PROOF i.e. his confession itself is admissible as Proof. He was Army Chief and President and all powerful person in Pakistan ( not any low ranked officer) and what he confessed was during his tenure. He said Pakistan nurtured Terrorists meaning HE DID IT. If he had said that Zulfiqar Bhutto did something, it needs proof too. Again, if Musharraf says something about anyone else ( on whom he has no control like R&AW,Vajpayee,Sharif,etc), it needs proof.

[HippoSucks]

He would know is no reason. Nothing that can be challenged in any court without any evidence. I thought that was a common sense. Apparently not. Musharaff is dishing out rubbish ever since removed. About Vajepai, Kargill, Sharif everyone. No one takes him seriously here. But that doesn't matter, isn't it? If he still say anything that suits your claim, you will accept that anyways.

If Musharaff confesses something negative of his own country, then it is most likely true. However if he places an allegation against any other country, then it is not necessarily correct.

[Unicorn]

Read this SLOWLY - In first case HE ( Musharraf) IS THE PROOF i.e. his confession itself is admissible as Proof. He was Army Chief and President and all powerful person in Pakistan ( not any low ranked officer) and what he confessed was during his tenure. He said Pakistan nurtured Terrorists meaning HE DID IT. If he had said that Zulfiqar Bhutto did something, it needs proof too. Again, if Musharraf says something about anyone else ( on whom he has no control like R&AW,Vajpayee,Sharif,etc), it needs proof.

Its your turn to read SLOWLY now. Since Musharaff has been saying rubbish, whats the proof of this that this isn't part of any of his agenda or he wasn't lying? Thats infact a more likely scenerio. Secondly, that statement was about Pakistan helping Kashmiri militants against Indian army oppression. Even if true, if not a news, its a well known fact. Just like Modi claimed India's involvement in Bangladesh partition and providing help to their rebel groups. Providing support to Kashmiri militants and state terrorism in India are different things. Pakistan have moral right over Indian Occupied Kashmir and you must know how Kashmir became part of India when it shouldn't have been. Thats a separate discussion, irrelevant to current incident.