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This thread is for all Sreesanth fans who believe in his talent and passion for team India. We will monitor and post on all his games to assess his progress and hopefully celebrate his return for the Aus tour. Let us not forget, if you exclude Ishant's minnow bashing bowling stats in WI, Sreesanth and Ishant have similar bowling averages. Ranji Trophy Plate League - Group A Vidarbha v Kerala He struggled in this match and returned figures of 1-119. Poor economy too. I suspect he has yet to adapt as he doesn't play much Ranji and mainly plays international matches. Things will improve. Couple of his recent twitter quotes: In nagpur ..the city whr I made I debut for india in tests n one-day cricket..very lucky n superb city ..iam here for my ranji- trophy match Sweet gesture by a genuine fan.. Thanks a lot Hope to see the return of the world cup winner (unlike Praveen, Ishant :giggle:) as soon as possible! Santhakumaran+Sreesanth+2011+ICC+World+Cup+r_fD1fqmy6bl.jpg

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:hysterical: with umesh and varon coming into team and ishant rediscovering his pace his career is over. zak and pk are above in the pecking order too.
Umesh and Varun-Unproven but lots of potential PK-Remains to be seen if he can bowl outside overcast conditions, even had an ordinary ODI series. ZK-Ageing and not many years left Ishant- CRAP. Non threatening. Rediscover pace, what the odd ball at 86mph :hysterical: How about taking wickets? You know, the bit that helps you win matches. Ishant has been consistently unthreatening yet accurate. This is mediocre stuff. Sree on his day can cause a toofan, only bowler in our team who can swing/seam the ball at pace and make good batsmen struggle. He should be in the ODI team too. Any Indians who watch his matches on your channels please update this thread with his progress.

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Umesh and Varun-Unproven but lots of potential PK-Remains to be seen if he can bowl outside overcast conditions, even had an ordinary ODI series. ZK-Ageing and not many years left Ishant- CRAP. Non threatening. Rediscover pace, what the odd ball at 86mph :hysterical: How about taking wickets? You know, the bit that helps you win matches. Ishant has been consistently unthreatening yet accurate. This is mediocre stuff. Sree on his day can cause a toofan, only bowler in our team who can swing/seam the ball at pace and make good batsmen struggle. He should be in the ODI team too. Any Indians who watch his matches on your channels please update this thread with his progress.
You saw the match today? He was bowling 140+ and there's no way I am saying he's world class yet. You are saying that Aaron and Yadav have potential, Ishant's the same age and has already 100+ wickets. He'll only get better from here on. As for Sree, he has tailunt but what use is it when it comes to the fore only when we tour South Africa. Even Munna and Nehra put in the odd match winning performance from time to time.

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You saw the match today? He was bowling 140+ and there's no way I am saying he's world class yet. You are saying that Aaron and Yadav have potential, Ishant's the same age and has already 100+ wickets. He'll only get better from here on. As for Sree, he has tailunt but what use is it when it comes to the fore only when we tour South Africa. Even Munna and Nehra put in the odd match winning performance from time to time.
I did see the match today. Oh that old argument, Ishant has 100 odd wickets at aged 23. It's like saying but Harbhajan has 400 wickets. You look at a players contribution and value, that is more important. Ishant has 100 odd wickets because he has been bowling non stop for our test team since aged 18. A better bowler would have had more wickets by now. Ishant has only shown glimpses of promise. He should be sent back to domestic to get a bagful of wickets and stake a claim. Sree has had a raw deal. Ishant gets all these chances for what???

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At this rate he is bowling it wont be long before he is dropped from Kerala team. Maybe then this thread can be renamed Kothamangalam express Seriously I dont have an issue if he chosen as a back up seamer in tests once he gets wkts in Ranji trophy.But he nowhere be near the ODI set up.He nearly cost us in the world cup final FFS.

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Hope to see the return of the world cup winner (unlike Praveen, Ishant :giggle:) as soon as possible!
Yes! He helped us win the World Cup.>sarcasm S Sreesanth ---> 8 -- 0 -- 52 -- 0 (6.50) (2nb) And he didn't even bowled in those last few overs where Mahela went crazy.

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He is talented, perhaps the most talented out there. But he needs a tough coach.. someone who can slap him around (well not literally but u know what I mean) every now and then so that he stays on the line always. Maybe a tough stint in county cricket next season can do him a world of good.

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He is talented, perhaps the most talented out there. But he needs a tough coach.. someone who can slap him around (well not literally but u know what I mean) every now and then so that he stays on the line always. Maybe a tough stint in county cricket next season can do him a world of good.
I think county cricket would really help him a lot. If he can bowl on those more friendly pitches it will help his confidence a lot.

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How Ishant, PK, UY being average or inexperienced make Sree better. There is hardly any pace bowler in the history of the game who played many test after such an awful performance in 25-26 test. Sree is like Afridi's batting which can create havoc on his day, but remains pathetic most of the time. Similarities between Afridi's batting and Sree's bowling Poor average Few exceptional performances which no one else in team can do Crap most of the time No improvement after many years Good start of career Aggressive style which regulary fails.

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I think it was some former Windies fast bowlers who said about Sreesanth that if he has not sorted out his temperament problems even after being in international cricket for 5-6 years than he can never sort it out. Now its for the Indian selectors to realize this.

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Even county cricket could not help him with Warwickshire.
Indeed, and the dude will be 29 in a few months, he's not exactly a young fast bowler who needs guidance like, say, Yadav or Aaron. He really ought to be at his peak right now.

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How Ishant, PK, UY being average or inexperienced make Sree better. There is hardly any pace bowler in the history of the game who played many test after such an awful performance in 25-26 test.
After 27 tests Ishant -37.4 Sreesanth-37.5 Ishant is playing his 39th test now :wink:

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Make fun of him all you want, but when on song he looks the best bowler in the world. He just needs to be guided properly, needs to concentrate on his bowling alone and leave sledging to others. The TB spell proves he still has it in him.

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Make fun of him all you want' date=' [b']but when on song he looks the best bowler in the world. He just needs to be guided properly, needs to concentrate on his bowling alone and leave sledging to others. The TB spell proves he still has it in him.
there's no denying that but there's also the fact that he's on song once in maybe 10-15 innings and for the rest of the innings he leaks runs in every format and on top of all that there is his acting and his weird behavior on the field.

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there's no denying that but there's also the fact that he's on song once in maybe 10-15 innings and for the rest of the innings he leaks runs in every format and on top of all that there is his acting and his weird behavior on the field.
Fact is he is not wanted in the team and his fitness has detoriated ,Talking of antics Praveen kumar does more antics than him and that too swearing at teammates and what jadeja did after the last odi against eng was disgraceful clearly Dhoni has double standards ,Look how he reacted when england players sledged him he lost his cool :giggle:.Also dhoni does not like sreesanth he made it all clear in southafrica in a pressconference after sreesanth took five wickets.He needs to toil hard in domestic cricket get his fitness and form and hope there is a new captain.

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As for a county stint helping him, Allan Donald effectively said that he is a retard and beyond help. But gotta admit he has the most philosophical outswinger in world cricket.

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As for a county stint helping him' date=' Allan Donald effectively said that he is a retard and beyond help. [b']But gotta admit he has the most philosophical outswinger in world cricket.
:hysterical::hysterical:

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As for a county stint helping him' date=' Allan Donald effectively said that he is a retard and beyond help. But gotta admit he has the most philosophical outswinger in world cricket.[/quote'] Please Post a link to the article.Donald was himself behaved as a retard most times on the field.Fact is performance matters sreesanth in his early years did more antics but took wickets so people persisted with him.but now even if he has mellowed down his performance is bad so this talk.But Atleast he has won us a few test matches against good teams .

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He's got to have a turnaround fast. I however, don't understand how he is "finished", "over", etc. He's got a contract this year. The way I look at it, he has been given a lifeline and he will take it.

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He's got to have a turnaround fast. I however, don't understand how he is "finished", "over", etc. He's got a contract this year. The way I look at it, he has been given a lifeline and he will take it.
He has never performed in domestic cricket despite being injured umpteen times. Has always come back directly into the team post his injury. England tour was his big chance, even a decent performance and he would have sealed his spot. Now a comeback looks improbable unless Umesh and Varun turn out to be major flops (which they obviously are not) or if he

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He has never performed in domestic cricket despite being injured umpteen times. Has always come back directly into the team post his injury. England tour was his big chance, even a decent performance and he would have sealed his spot. Now a comeback looks improbable unless Umesh and Varun turn out to be major flops (which they obviously are not) or if he
I think many of us will agree that the fact that he gets direct entry into the team means he enjoys atleast some confidence from the people at the helm. England was a debacle, but well he is Sreesanth and he made his bad performances stick out like a sore thumb. I think this could be his last potential contract year. He;s gotta make the most of it. Time is running out and knowing Sreesanth, he will. The question is, will he make the most of it on a consistent basis? Only time will tell.

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I think many of us will agree that the fact that he gets direct entry into the team means he enjoys atleast some confidence from the people at the helm. England was a debacle, but well he is Sreesanth and he made his bad performances stick out like a sore thumb. I think this could be his last potential contract year. He;s gotta make the most of it. Time is running out and knowing Sreesanth, he will. The question is, will he make the most of it on a consistent basis? Only time will tell.
Inching closer to 29 with two 22-23 year old pacers capable of hitting 145 already in the side and doing well . Sree would be lucky to be in Australia with the team.

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Inching closer to 29 with two 22-23 year old pacers capable of hitting 145 already in the side and doing well . Sree would be lucky to be in Australia with the team.
He'd be Zak's cover in Australia given his experience, if he gets selected for Australia.

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He'd be Zak's cover in Australia given his experience' date=' if he gets selected for Australia.[/quote'] RPS has started off the Ranji trophy well and would surely be ahead of Sree in the queue especially if Sree continues to struggle for wickets that too in the plate league.

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RPS has started off the Ranji trophy well and would surely be ahead of Sree in the queue especially if Sree continues to struggle for wickets that too in the plate league.
If RP makes it ahead of Sree, that would be just sad.

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If Sree makes it to that tour then it would be sad.
ya but RP is seriously pathetic. He is not fit, has become worse than a trundler, lost the huge swing he used to get. He wont do much better than Vinay Koomar in the series.

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ya but RP is seriously pathetic. He is not fit' date=' has become worse than a trundler, lost the huge swing he used to get. He wont do much better than Vinay Koomar in the series.[/quote'] As deathmonger earlier said, PK,Zak,Yadav,Aaron,Ishant should get into the side and then there will be at least 2 spinners so I don't see any place for another bowler.

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As deathmonger earlier said' date=' PK,Zak,Yadav,Aaron,Ishant should get into the side and then there will be at least 2 spinners so I don't see any place for another bowler.[/quote'] Out of that list Zak might be iffy. Ishant also has a surgery due but I think he has postponed it. Hope he doesnt break down :nervous:

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Out of that list Zak might be iffy. Ishant also has a surgery due but I think he has postponed it. Hope he doesnt break down :nervous:
with bowlers like Zak etc there will always be an injury concern. Yeh to uske career ka ek main feature raha hai :wall:

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As of now,I don't see much utility for PK on the Aussie tour...but well he made me eat humble pie once before during the Eng tour. Australia is not a place for your average medium pacer and show me one bowler with PK's pace who has had success there.Over the years Eng was smashed around in Aussie tours because of PK like bowlers Logically a fully fit and in-form Sreeshanth would be better than PK on Aussie tour but I guess PK has booked his spot based on recent performances.

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As of now,I don't see much utility for PK on the Aussie tour...but well he made me eat humble pie once before during the Eng tour. Australia is not a place for your average medium pacer and show me one bowler with PK's pace who has had success there.Over the years Eng was smashed around in Aussie tours because of PK like bowlers Logically a fully fit and in-form Sreeshanth would be better than PK on Aussie tour but I guess PK has booked his spot based on recent performances.
Irfan Pathan - Perth Test..but I agree,PK will not be effective there

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Inching closer to 29 with two 22-23 year old pacers capable of hitting 145 already in the side and doing well . Sree would be lucky to be in Australia with the team.
No one cares if someone can hit 145kmph. It's about taking wickets, Mohd Sami and Tino Best can also bowl quick but are joke test bowlers. I am not saying Aaron and Yadav are going to be like that, but being a successful test seamer has many dimensions, pace is just one aspect. I think Sree would have bowled well in this test with balls staying low. He would have picked up wickets.

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As deathmonger earlier said' date=' PK,Zak,Yadav,Aaron,Ishant should get into the side and then there will be at least 2 spinners so I don't see any place for another bowler.[/quote'] I think in this WI series, Aaron and Yadav are fighting for one position for the Aus tour. We won't take 2 inexperienced bowlers. For Aus I would take: Zak-spearhead Ishant-don't rate him but he can get good bounce on those pitches and by luck get some to straighten (he said he doesn't know how to straigten them and it's luck) PK-When someone takes wickets, bowls with plenty of heart and demonstrates a thinking brain, they deserve a run. One of Aaron and Yadav based on this series. Then of course Sreesanth.

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