rageaddict Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 A 20-year-old youth was arrested on charge of uploading an objectionable picture on the Facebook, police said on Saturday. Pintu Sahu was taken to custody by Brahmanitarang police yesterday for posting an objectionable picture on his Facebook account, they said. The picture showed Å*ord Hanuman sitting atop a mosque and the picture was posted on December 6, the day the Babri shrine was demolished, they said. As tension was brewing among the community over the controversial picture, the police took Pintu into custody. Ÿe got the smell of tension. Three software specialists were pressed into service to find out the source of the controversial picture. Finally, Pintu Sahu's account was located, informed the Sub- Divisional Police Officer (SDPO) of Rourkela S S Sethi. Sahu was picked up and arrested, Sethi said adding that he had been booked under the provisions of IT Act besides section 153(A), 295(A) and 298 of IPC for fomenting enmity between two communities and disturbing the peaceful atmosphere of the society. http://m.indianexpress.com/news/%22man-arrested-for-uploading-photo-of-lord-hanuman-atop-mosque-on-facebook%22/1042370/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Where is the freedom of speech and expression ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 In this case this is a valid arrest. The intention was clearly to instigate and not to put forward any point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 In this case this is a valid arrest. The intention was clearly to instigate and not to pit forward any point. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 In this case this is a valid arrest. The intention was clearly to instigate and not to put forward any point Instigate who ? Then even the comments against Thackeray on fb were made to instigate Shiv Sainiks to go on a rampage . Arrest of Girls justified . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Instigate who ? Then even the comments against Thackeray on fb were made to instigate Shiv Sainiks to go on a rampage . Are you comparing Thackery to Hanuman/Allah? If it was the other way around, say a pic of Koran on Hanuman's head, already a 100 muslims might have been killed. On the other hand, the girl didnt even name Thackery, she was complaining about the traffic and city being forcefully closed, a very valid point. Can you tell me what point this guy was making apart from just instigating muslims to create mayhem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Instigate who ? Then even the comments against Thackeray on fb were made to instigate Shiv Sainiks to go on a rampage . Arrest of Girls justified . The comment wasn't against Thakeray. It was against the closure ( forced closure in many cases) of an entire city and the rationale behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomainK Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 In this case this is a valid arrest. The intention was clearly to instigate and not to put forward any point +1. I agree. The object of the photograph was to mock a religion and provoke it's followers. There is no opinion expressed or point made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Okay lets assume for a while that the Girls didnot insult Thackeray . But if this arrest is valid then will it be correct to arrest someone who posted a cartoon of Thackeray or any other leader on facebook which clearly insults/mocks them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Okay lets assume for a while that the Girls didnot insult Thackeray . But if this arrest is valid then will it be correct to arrest someone who posted a cartoon of Thackeray or any other leader on facebook which clearly insults/mocks them ? What's there to assume? Why would you assume anything which is already there? But if this arrest is valid then will it be correct to arrest someone who posted a cartoon of Thackeray or any other leader on facebook which clearly insults/mocks them ? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moniker Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Are you implying that Hussein got away with a crime all these years? Apart from your little opinion could you cite any influential voice making a case for Hussein's conviction? Lol Hussein fled the country due to a combination of death threats and a non bailable warrant was issued against him.. His spent his last years in self exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 What's there to assume? Why would you assume anything which is already there? no. It is an assumption made by the ignorants . Secular suckups are not familiar with ground reality and are inconsistent in their views . Do you think that if someone came on the road during Thackeray's funeral and said that " Thackeray jaise bahut paida hote hai roz roz so there should be no bandh " , then he/she would have got scot free ? Was the statement not provocative enough to deserve a violent response from the Sainiks ? Sainiks got aware of these comments and the reaction was spontaneous . Yes it was provocative enough for them . So if culprits can be arrested for mocking a religion which draws violent then why shouldnt culprits who mock leaders and forces their supporters to indulge in violence should also be arrested ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyFloss Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 dk :omg: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Freedom of speech with caveats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Would you say it'd still be an instigation if instead of Facebook he'd chosen to display a painting of Mohammad masturbating in an art gallery? MF Hussein has set the precedent after all? But Aah, now we enter a grey area of discussion. Personally I am against all censoring and am completely for the freedom of speech but I will come to that later In Hussein's case though I dont believe his art insulted the hindu religion in any way. Naked deities has been drawn and depicted for centureis in India. I will also come back to the intention thing. Hussein's painting were an expression of art and he was not deliberately trying to insitigate or insult anyone. In this case, the intention was to intentionally create tension. Even in the most secular of country with free speech, this is never tolerated. Even if you take an example of a country like US with free speech, people like Hussain or South Park which mocks religion will not be booked but people like this facebook poster, who didnt have a point, was not expressing himself in anyway, but his sole intention was to insult and provoke others will be booked. I am all for free speech and freedom of expression. But if someone goes out of the way to insult someone thats not free speech, thats hate crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Freedom of speech with caveats. Even in the country with the most free speech ever, even in a country like the US, would have booked this person because he was not expressing himself, he didnt have an opinion or a point. He was just intentionally provoking people and wanted to insult people. So where a show like SouthPark which mocks religions is ok because of their intention, a person like the one in the OP, whose only reason is to provoke people is not. Surely you can see the distinction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Are you comparing Thackery to Hanuman/Allah? If it was the other way around' date= say a pic of Koran on Hanuman's head, already a 100 muslims might have been killed. On the other hand, the girl didnt even name Thackery, she was complaining about the traffic and city being forcefully closed, a very valid point. Can you tell me what point this guy was making apart from just instigating muslims to create mayhem? What an irresponsible statement to make. Any precedent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Even in the country with the most free speech ever' date=' even in a country like the US, would have booked this person because he was not expressing himself, he didnt have an opinion or a point. He was just intentionally provoking people and wanted to insult people. So where a show like SouthPark which mocks religions is ok because of their intention, a person like the one in the OP, whose only reason is to provoke people is not. Surely you can see the distinction?[/quote'] Actually I dont. In a country like India, any cyber legislation is only going to be used to fulfill an agenda. Was Zakir Naik arrested for his comments ? I think they were very derogatory about Lord Ganesh. I would rather have complete freedom of speech with proper law and order and justice system. Today sec 66A has been absolutely misused kind of like blasphemy or sedition law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rageaddict Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 ^ Agree Completely . This has been used as a case of Blasphemy law in India . Be it Ram or Muhamad everyone should be up for criticism and mocking . There were some fanatics and BJP leaders who were upset with Portrayal of Hindu Gods in the movie " Oh My God " but nobody was arrested for promoting enemity or insulting and rightly so . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanSaab Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Disagree with the arrest. He is obviously an idiot but thats not a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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