Nathu Singh - Rajasthan fast bowler

[fineleg 1,009]

^ Who are the successful trundlers?

Vaas in ODIs, who else...

Vaas though could hit 135+

[express bowling 21,660]

^ Who are the successful trundlers?

Vaas in ODIs, who else...

Vaas though could hit 135+

Vaas was fast-medium during a large part of his career.

[express bowling 21,660]

^ Who are the successful trundlers?

Vaas in ODIs, who else...

Vaas though could hit 135+

In ODIs, Nathan Bracken is the only successful trundler I can think of  offhand.( He did not play that many tests ).  But even he was very tall. Not like a typical shortish trundler that we see.

Edited October 20, 2015 by express bowling

[Wasim9211 25]

newzeland  has tarun Nathula who played 5 odi for them, not long ago,he is nobody with the bat but took 5 wkts

[Ankit_sharma03 10,214]

In ODIs, Nathan Bracken is the only successful trundler I can think of  offhand.( He did not play that many tests ).  But even he was very tall. Not like a typical shortish trundler that we see.

Bracken had gr8 slower ones n was very effective in death overs

our trundlers cnt even do that 

Also Ian harvey use to use slower balls brilliantly in death overs

our bowlers cnt even use slower balls properly

[cric_fan 725]

Is this guy the real deal or just another Atul Sharma?

[kosingh 1,952]

It's so comfortable n great to bat against Trundlers as one can manage to see the ball till v hit the ball ...it feels good n all batsmen enjoi.

 

Fast delivery hitting the batsmen is fearful n batsmen is not sure if he will manage to play the entire over....

 

I am an opening batsmen for my multinational company...can dhoni read this

LOL. That third line destroyed your argument. Opening batsman for a multinational company!

[CG 1,516]

 

Looks like bhuvi so radhikiji has a new cricketer to follow.

[express bowling 21,660]

MRF Pace Foundation was started in the late 80s. Till then India had medium pacers and slow-medium pacers mostly with an occasional fast-medium bowler like Kapil Dev. The difference in pace between us and the rest of the world was staggering then.

 

From 1989, we have played many fast and fast-medium pacers ....from MRF as well as others.

 

Quite a few guys have been picked for our national team primarily because they were thought to have extra pace ( whether truly or not ).

 

They are Srinath, Ankola, Zaheer, Agarkar, Munaf, VRV , Mithun, Umesh, Aaron and Shami. Nathu Singh maybe the new addition to this list.

 

Srinath and Zaheer have gone on to become 2 of the 3 best pacers we have produced in our history. Shami has been great in ODIs. Agarkar was decent in ODIs too. VRV became injured. Mithun was wrongly thought to be fast.

So, the turnover of good bowlers from fast bowlers has been quite good in India.

Edited October 22, 2015 by express bowling

[express bowling 21,660]

So, the turnover has not been bad.

Sent from my HTC Desire C using Tapatalk

[Shivaji bhonsle 229]

[express bowling 21,660]

Looks on the taller side.

Sent from my HTC Desire C using Tapatalk

[Rightarmfast 2,976]

Vaas wasn't a trundler exactly. He had a lot of guile in him. Just like Kapil, not much pace, but a lot of brain. Don't compare aravind and mohit sharma to him.

 

We have had quite a few fast bowlers in India, like Atul wassan, Ankola, prashant vaidya, srinath etc. If you remember my video of Rehan Khan from Bihar ( who was of genuine pace ), he told me about other bihari fast bowlers who were never recognized but who used to bowl in excess of 150. (and this is not BS, I know for a fact that it was true ).

The problem also has been of bowling coaches who have always insisted to reduce down on pace, and then selectors who never let pace bowlers prosper.

HOpefully this kid will grow!

[express bowling 21,660]

Vaas wasn't a trundler exactly. He had a lot of guile in him. Just like Kapil, not much pace, but a lot of brain. Don't compare aravind and mohit sharma to him.

 

We have had quite a few fast bowlers in India, like Atul wassan, Ankola, prashant vaidya, srinath etc. If you remember my video of Rehan Khan from Bihar ( who was of genuine pace ), he told me about other bihari fast bowlers who were never recognized but who used to bowl in excess of 150. (and this is not BS, I know for a fact that it was true ).

The problem also has been of bowling coaches who have always insisted to reduce down on pace, and then selectors who never let pace bowlers prosper.

HOpefully this kid will grow!

What has happened to Rehan Khan ?

[vishalvirsingh 1,723]

Match with board president  n Africa will be in wan khade. ..I plan to go n see the match..it's for 2 days.

Will see natHu singh

[nsareen 72]

incredible story of nathu singh

The day the court appointed an ad hoc committee to run Rajasthan cricket, its convenor, Amrit Mathur, received a call from Rahul Dravid. The gist of the conversation was: "this boy" is good, please keep an eye out for him.

After the end of the first match, against Delhi, their coach Vijay Dahiya, who joined only from the second match onwards, called Mathur. He had been told about "this boy" by Gautam Gambhir. The gist of this conversation: "we were talking, Gautam mentioned this boy and said that after a long time he has seen new India material, please make sure he is not ruined by over-bowling."

Chairman of national selectors Sandeep Patil happened to watch this boy. Rajinder Hans, another national selector appointed by the court to make sure the Rajasthan Ranji team was selected fairly, obviously saw this boy. And now, this boy, Nathu Singh, son of a labourer in a wire factory, is going to play for the Board President's XI against the touring South Africans based on "the spark" Patil and team have seen. He has played only three first-class matches.

Sometimes a name can evoke the person. Nathu is almost like you know him. Short, endearing. Not quite the immortal "moonchein hon toh Nathu Lal jaisi hon" from the Hindi movie Sharaabi. His pronunciation is different. It's Naa-thu. The thu is softer too. Until three years ago he used to bowl with a soft ball in the gali mohallas [neighbourhood]. Then a bhaiya told him he should try a cricket ball because he was too fast for everybody.

The first thing you notice about Nathu is the tattoo on his arm. "Mom dad," it says. His mother and father gambled it all for him. When he took the advice to actually start playing with the cricket ball, he needed to play at an academy. He went to Surana Academy, where the fees was Rs 10,000 for the year. The father had no savings to spare, but he told Nathu: "Whatever I have I will put in. Let's see for two months how you go."

A sign of how sick cricket at grassroots levels is in India is that Nathu couldn't find a place in the Jaipur district side, and had to play for Sikkar, hardly known for its cricket

Two months later the coaches at the academy and Nathu's mamo sa [mother's brother] suggested he be given time because they saw that "spark". The academy subsidised the fee looking at his family background, and by the end of that year he was in the Rajasthan Under-19 side. The MRF Pace Academy happened too, where he impressed Glenn McGrath. Boots and spikes? "I used to arrange from the seniors," Nathu says. "Deepak bhaiya [Chahar] and Aniket bhaiya [Choudhury] helped me a lot." Two years ago, when Nathu drew his first match fee, he gave it all to his parents. He still does.

A sign of how sick cricket at grassroots levels is in India is that he couldn't find a place in the Jaipur district side, and had to go and play for Sikkar, hardly known for its cricket. The rest of the machinery, though, has been remarkable in fast-tracking him into playing against a quality opposition.

The word around is that he has pace, but more than pace his speciality is that he bowls quick when he bowls at a length. Every coach has told him that. The explanation is this: when you strive to bowl fast, when the pace is not natural but through extra effort, you tend to drag the ball down. Nathu doesn't need to. "The coaches have also told me I am god-gifted," Nathu says. "There is no need to work on me."

Time to watch him then. There is a Munaf Patel-like lumber to his walk and his batting. He is lbw first ball against Maharashtra. He looks a mug. His turn to bowl against Maharashtra comes after the new-ball bowlers, Chahar and Choudhury, have had a go. They are 21 for 1 when Nathu begins to meticulously mark his run-up to begin the ninth over of the innings. Four steps from the crease, toe next to the heel, and he marks a line there. Then a long leap to scratch another mark, audibly enough for those outside the fence. Then he goes to the top of his mark.

Nathu walks four steps, then skips - not as extravagantly as Junaid Khan or Mohit Sharma - and then takes 10 brisk but comfortable steps into his delivery stride. The leap is high, the action is easy and smooth, and then he puts a big effort into the ball. There is pace. It repeatedly thuds into the gloves of wicketkeeper Dishant Yagnik. He looks front-on - he calls himself an inswing bowler - and it will need closer analysis to see if he looks over his front arm just before letting the ball go. This puts stress on the back, but also puts action on the ball. Bhuvneshwar Kumar does that.

Associated Press

In a week's time, Nathu Singh will have the chance to meet his hero, Dale Steyn, who always has time for young fast bowlers

As of now, though, despite being green, the Sawai Mansingh Stadium has not provided any lateral movement to the quicks on either side. Nathu gets late-cut for three consecutive boundaries by Maharashtra captain Rohit Motwani. He is not bowling his speciality: quick length balls. Probably because this is not quite a seaming surface and you have to hit the deck hard. He creates an opportunity with the other batsman Harshad Khadiwale, but sees a catch dropped. That has for long been the fate of the other India player from Rajasthan, Pankaj Singh. Ordinary slip catching has been the bane of Rajasthan quicks.

Nathu bowls four wicketless overs before lunch and goes for four fours. He comes back after lunch and bowls a six-over spell that lasts until the afternoon drinks. Easy there, captain. Remember what Dahiya said. But then again, Chahar is off the field with an injury, and Nathu has had his man, Motwani. Motwani tries to back-cut again, but this time Nathu has bowled the quick length ball, which bounces to take the edge.

It will be harsh to draw verdicts on his general accuracy or ability to work batsmen out based on just one day's play, but the spark that everybody has seen is there. There is pace, natural pace, pace even at the end of the day when bowling his 18th over with a 70-over-old ball. Yet another cricketer from India has come up despite, and not because of, the system. The way people have rallied around him is heart-warming. In a week's time in Mumbai he will meet another good Samaritan, his hero, Dale Steyn, who is never stingy with time or advice for young fast bowlers.

The spark has somehow been given the fuel. It is up to him now to burn bright.

Sidharth Monga Is An Assistant Editor At Espncricinfo

ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Mosher 13,391]

incredible story of nathu singh

 

The day the court appointed an ad hoc committee to run Rajasthan cricket, its convenor, Amrit Mathur, received a call from Rahul Dravid. The gist of the conversation was: "this boy" is good, please keep an eye out for him.

 

After the end of the first match, against Delhi, their coach Vijay Dahiya, who joined only from the second match onwards, called Mathur. He had been told about "this boy" by Gautam Gambhir. The gist of this conversation: "we were talking, Gautam mentioned this boy and said that after a long time he has seen new India material, please make sure he is not ruined by over-bowling."

 

Chairman of national selectors Sandeep Patil happened to watch this boy. Rajinder Hans, another national selector appointed by the court to make sure the Rajasthan Ranji team was selected fairly, obviously saw this boy. And now, this boy, Nathu Singh, son of a labourer in a wire factory, is going to play for the Board President's XI against the touring South Africans based on "the spark" Patil and team have seen. He has played only three first-class matches.

 

Sometimes a name can evoke the person. Nathu is almost like you know him. Short, endearing. Not quite the immortal "moonchein hon toh Nathu Lal jaisi hon" from the Hindi movie Sharaabi. His pronunciation is different. It's Naa-thu. The thu is softer too. Until three years ago he used to bowl with a soft ball in the gali mohallas [neighbourhood]. Then a bhaiya told him he should try a cricket ball because he was too fast for everybody.

 

The first thing you notice about Nathu is the tattoo on his arm. "Mom dad," it says. His mother and father gambled it all for him. When he took the advice to actually start playing with the cricket ball, he needed to play at an academy. He went to Surana Academy, where the fees was Rs 10,000 for the year. The father had no savings to spare, but he told Nathu: "Whatever I have I will put in. Let's see for two months how you go."

 

 

This is such a heart warming story. There have been so many talents lost to due to the apathy at the junior levels. Hope Nathu is taken care of properly and not over bowled. Good move by the selectors to select him for the BP XI. Hope he does well.

Edited October 24, 2015 by Mosher

[rkt.india 9,577]

He has not bowled too well in the ongoing match. He had a great debut match though against Delhi taking a 7-fer in the 2nd innings. 

[gakgupta 949]

He has not bowled too well in the ongoing match. He had a great debut match though against Delhi taking a 7-fer in the 2nd innings. 

Cant expect 7 fer in every match....

He is still very young....He will take his time to settle in...

But good to see that Rahul Dravid is keeping eye on him...

Also good to see that he will be playing for Board's XI for INDIA against SA.....

Yeah!! selectors are doing anything and everything what KOHLI has asked for.........

See...a good attacking captain can make things happen.....Well, NATHU SINGH might or might not cut it but atleast efforts are there from selectors because captain wanted it.....

I wish "so called DHONI ERA" ends ASAP and we see some exciting one day cricket as well

[paragkn 49]

His main weapon is raw pace,but once you hit the headlines in India,lots of people come around a fast bowler to guide him,and each guide brings down bowlers speed down 1 yard and after 1-2 year that bowler finds himself bowling at a speed of 125-126km. Hope it doesnt happen with Nathu-singh.

It is quite pre-matured to comment on the utility of nathu Singh. Better we keep him in usual way p grooming to india level, by making to play some first class cricket for a year or two, then elevating him to highest level. More over we need to develop a mentor like system for nurturing the talent. Otherwise, he will also be disappeared from the scene.

[ShebbySB 540]

 

His main weapon is raw pace,but once you hit the headlines in India,lots of people come around a fast bowler to guide him,and each guide brings down bowlers speed down 1 yard and after 1-2 year that bowler finds himself bowling at a speed of 125-126km. Hope it doesnt happen with Nathu-singh.

It is quite pre-matured to comment on the utility of nathu Singh. Better we keep him in usual way p grooming to india level, by making to play some first class cricket for a year or two, then elevating him to highest level. More over we need to develop a mentor like system for nurturing the talent. Otherwise, he will also be disappeared from the scene.

 

Umesh,Aaron haven't lost pace,neither Ishant or Shami.If anything med-fast guys like Mohit & Bk are bowling quicker around 135-137k.Things have changed nowadays where our bowlers are encouraged to bowl fast barring MSD who can't handle fast bowlers,he likes trundlers.So if Nathu Singh can prove himself he'll certainly join the setup specially with lots of eyes on him.

Edited October 24, 2015 by ShebbySB

[MultiB48 1,084]

Match with board president  n Africa will be in wan khade. ..I plan to go n see the match..it's for 2 days.

Will see natHu singh

it will be at brabourne not wankhede

[vijay50 110]

Umesh,Aaron haven't lost pace,neither Ishant or Shami.If anything med-fast guys like Mohit & Bk are bowling quicker around 135-137k.Things have changed nowadays where our bowlers are encouraged to bowl fast barring MSD who can't handle fast bowlers,he likes trundlers.So if Nathu Singh can prove himself he'll certainly join the setup specially with lots of eyes on him.

The thunderbolts from Umesh and Aaron will hit and cause knuckle pain for Dhoni. He cant handle them. Its another matter that both spray a lot.

Mohith, aravind, Bhuvi. Nice and easy to catch their slow trundle balls without any pain in knuckles.

[rkt.india 9,577]

The thunderbolts from Umesh and Aaron will hit and cause knuckle pain for Dhoni. He cant handle them. Its another matter that both spray a lot.

Mohith, aravind, Bhuvi. Nice and easy to catch their slow trundle balls without any pain in knuckles.

and Aravind is the McGrath reincarnation.

[express bowling 21,660]

and Aravind is the McGrath reincarnation.

Also, we often see good deliveries by trundlers going for 4s or 6s. ( Apart from the numerous bad deliveries that our short trundlers bowl ).

[Mahaa Raavana 50]

Yippeee...You've unearthed another Ashok Danda    

[Rightarmfast 2,976]

What has happened to Rehan Khan ?

I have no idea. I couldnt do much, although I tried. RKT almost got things fixed for him, but I kind of delayed and put RKT down. My fault there!

[express bowling 21,660]

But good to see that Rahul Dravid is keeping eye on him...

Also good to see that he will be playing for Board's XI for INDIA against SA.....

Yeah!! selectors are doing anything and everything what KOHLI has asked for.........

See...a good attacking captain can make things happen.....Well, NATHU SINGH might or might not cut it but atleast efforts are there from selectors because captain wanted it.....

I wish "so called DHONI ERA" ends ASAP and we see some exciting one day cricket as well

Kohli and Shastri combo seem to have an eye for the right kinds of players, especially bowlers. Pacers with pace and bounce, spinners who can turn the ball, wrist spinners etc.

Our test team has Umesh, Aaron, Ishant and Shami will come in too. They are our quickest available among established pacers. Ashwin and Mishra are our 2 established spinners who can turn the ball the most and they are in our test side.

The Board President's XI includes Nathu Singh, Hardik Pandya, Kuldeep Yadav, Shreyas Iyer and Karun Nair....all very international type players. Not long ago the same selectors were choosing trundlers mostly and darting spinners. Obviously, Kohli is asking for the right kinds of players.

Edited October 25, 2015 by express bowling

[New guy 3,640]

But can he bowl line and length from around the wicket with a leg slip

[Mosher 13,391]

But can he bowl line and length from around the wicket with a leg slip

[cric_fan 725]

Is this guy the real deal or all hype? Remember Munaf Patel? Irfan Pathan? Bhuvi?

[Mosher 13,391]

Is this guy the real deal or all hype? Remember Munaf Patel? Irfan Pathan? Bhuvi?

Mcgrath, Dravid, Gambhir and Sandeep Patil are impressed by this guy so he must have lot of potential. He is selected in BP XI team based on that potential, now its up to him to work hard and do well.

[express bowling 21,660]

Mcgrath, Dravid, Gambhir and Sandeep Patil are impressed by this guy so he must have lot of potential. He is selected in BP XI team based on that potential, now its up to him to work hard and do well.

This is the key part.

[Ironhide 310]

Kohli and Shastri combo seem to have an eye for the right kinds of players, especially bowlers. Pacers with pace and bounce, spinners who can turn the ball, wrist spinners etc.

Our test team has Umesh, Aaron, Ishant and Shami will come in too. They are our quickest available among established pacers. Ashwin and Mishra are our 2 established spinners who can turn the ball the most and they are in our test side.

The Board President's XI includes Nathu Singh, Hardik Pandya, Kuldeep Yadav, Shreyas Iyer and Karun Nair....all very international type players. Not long ago the same selectors were choosing trundlers mostly and darting spinners. Obviously, Kohli is asking for the right kinds of players.

Yup, the Test team squad reflects Kohli's mindset and also reveals the kind of players he wants from the selectors. Bowlers with pace and spinners who can turn the ball. Just look at today's ODI squad with Dhoni, All Trundlers !! Even if fast bowlers go for runs, we should stick to them, they will atleast get some wickets unlike Trundlers who will be swatted like flies and no wickets to show for those runs.

[rkt.india 9,577]

Is this guy the real deal or all hype? Remember Munaf Patel? Irfan Pathan? Bhuvi?

Munaf Patel was amazing when he started. How many bowlers take 10-fer in a warmup game against a touring side on a flat pitch. He had mean bouncer and good reverse swinging Yorkers.

He was the biggest let down for me when he slowed with injuries.

[express bowling 21,660]

 

Yup, the Test team squad reflects Kohli's mindset and also reveals the kind of players he wants from the selectors. Bowlers with pace and spinners who can turn the ball. Just look at today's ODI squad with Dhoni, All Trundlers !! Even if fast bowlers go for runs, we should stick to them, they will atleast get some wickets unlike Trundlers who will be swatted like flies and no wickets to show for those runs.

Choosing an entire squad, without any proper fast-medium bowler even, is really baffling. 

Even more baffling is choosing short medium pacers only and yet telling them to bowl bouncers ball after ball.

[express bowling 21,660]

 

Munaf Patel was amazing when he started. How many bowlers take 10-fer in a warmup game against a touring side on a flat pitch. He had mean bouncer and good reverse swinging Yorkers.

 

He was the biggest let down for me when he slowed with injuries.

I remember that match against England. Munaf Patel at debut was the most lethal and exciting fast bowler I have even seen from India. He bowled fast inswinging yorkers, quick lifting deliveries from just short of a length, got steep bounce and lots of wickets. His rate of regressing was equally amazing too. Within a year or 18 months at most, he became a medium pacer from a genuine fast bowler, dropping about 10 to 15 k on an average. Stopped bowling yorkers and bouncers and lost his lethalness.

[Malcolm Merlyn 2,252]

Munaf Patel was amazing when he started. How many bowlers take 10-fer in a warmup game against a touring side on a flat pitch. He had mean bouncer and good reverse swinging Yorkers.

He was the biggest let down for me when he slowed with injuries.

I remember that match against England. Munaf Patel at debut was the most lethal and exciting fast bowler I have even seen from India. He bowled fast inswinging yorkers, quick lifting deliveries from just short of a length, got steep bounce and lots of wickets. His rate of regressing was equally amazing too. Within a year or 18 months at most, he became a medium pacer from a genuine fast bowler, dropping about 10 to 15 k on an average. Stopped bowling yorkers and bouncers and lost his lethalness.

7 wkts on debut at Mohali.

[fineleg 1,009]

Sreesanth, RP Singh, Munaf Patel, L. Balaji (injury), Irfan Pathan

To some extent Ishant Sharma (good but still wayward given so much experience) and Md. Shami (good but some waywardness and now major injury)

Umesh Yadav and Aaron (both still wayward)

Great opportunity for Nathu Singh - only he can grab it, and learn, or will go above players' way.

Send Nathu to A-tours, County experience (even if not good county teams). Zaheer Khan benefitted so much from county training.

Edited October 25, 2015 by fineleg

[rkt.india 9,577]

I remember that match against England. Munaf Patel at debut was the most lethal and exciting fast bowler I have even seen from India. He bowled fast inswinging yorkers, quick lifting deliveries from just short of a length, got steep bounce and lots of wickets. His rate of regressing was equally amazing too. Within a year or 18 months at most, he became a medium pacer from a genuine fast bowler, dropping about 10 to 15 k on an average. Stopped bowling yorkers and bouncers and lost his lethalness.

it was a huge disappointment. I still remember his first FC game was against Touring NZ side in 200. He was still very raw then. 20 year old Sreesanth and 17 year old RP also played that game. But it was Munaf who caught the eye. He beaten them for pace and took 3 wickets of top order batsmen.

[rkt.india 9,577]

7 wkts on debut at Mohali.

10-fer was in the warmup game against England.

[Mosher 13,391]

Munaf Patel was another wasted talent. Had good pace, good bouncer and could reverse the bowl too. Then it all went downhill. I could not find his video of his debut match. But found his video vs WI. Watch Munaf bowl a good tight over at good pace with some really good bouncers.

 

[Malcolm Merlyn 2,252]

10-fer was in the warmup game against England.

The 7 fer was more important.It was on debut and he clocked 148ks.

[rkt.india 9,577]

The 7 fer was more important.It was on debut and he clocked 148ks.

yes

[rkt.india 9,577]

Munaf's decline started from SA tour where he got injured and missed first two tests and after that, he was never the same bowler.

[CG 1,516]

The 7 fer was more important.It was on debut and he clocked 148ks.

He clocked 147 in one spell. But he could never maintain his speed as he lacked stamina.

[Malcolm Merlyn 2,252]

He clocked 147 in one spell. But he could never maintain his speed as he lacked stamina.

He would mostly bowl in 140s and had a very good incutter.Then Greg Chappel asked him to slow down.

[CG 1,516]

He would mostly bowl in 140s and had a very good incutter.Then Greg Chappel asked him to slow down.

No he was mostly 130-140 in first spell and he ended the day. At 125-130ks.he did not have the fitness levels. Also he did not improve his fitness. He did well in odis though where he had to bowl 10 overs.

[rkt.india 9,577]

No he was mostly 130-140 in first spell and he ended the day. At 125-130ks.he did not have the fitness levels. Also he did not improve his fitness. He did well in odis though where he had to bowl 10 overs.

Fitness could always be worked upon but he possessed things that most other bowlers didn't have. He would not always bowl quick like Steyn does but when needed, he could increase the pace. By the time, he played ODIs, he had dropped his pace.

[Malcolm Merlyn 2,252]

No he was mostly 130-140 in first spell and he ended the day. At 125-130ks.he did not have the fitness levels. Also he did not improve his fitness. He did well in odis though where he had to bowl 10 overs.

Wrong.When he first came he was 138 to 145 ks bowler consistently.