Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Magneto said: Krishna Das is a very weak LOI bowler. Just saying. Hope you are not confusing between the formats. Krishna das is week bowler only be it any format, his highest pace is 120k.......height must be 5.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Krishna Das is a very weak LOI bowler. Just saying. Hope you are not confusing between the formats. I an debating all 3 formats not only t20 Krishna is as good as sandip, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: The only top IPL performer with the ball who has done really well in LOIs, is Bumrah. IPL will propel them to the main team; there’s no guarantee that it will make sure that they are world beaters. Top players in BBL or these other leagues are neither world beaters. Ditto for Ranji Trophy etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, speedheat said: Krishna is as good as sandip, my friend. Just because their paces are similar? In which LOIs have you seen Krishna to judge that he is as good as Sandip? Averages 123 with the ball currently. Edited May 7, 2017 by Magneto Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 yeah thats what I said.You brought in tests suddenly after 438 wala point didnt work You're not that magneto guy that question was for him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Krishna das is week bowler only be it any format, his highest pace is 120k.......height must be 5.8 I thought someone said he is a champion bowler, that’s why saying. He may have got 50 wickets in a Ranji season, but that’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 googled Krisna Das,first it said hes an american vocalist his List A avg is 41,theres the clue lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, speedheat said: You're not that magneto guy that question was for him?? Lord has answered it effectively. Hit the ball out of the park, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, Lord said: googled Krisna Das,first it said hes an american vocalist his List A avg is 41,theres the clue lol Check the T20 average now Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just because their paces are similar? In which LOIs have you seen Krishna to judge that he is as good as Sandip? Averages 123 with the ball currently. So you agree that a domestic bully k das is not good for selection based on performance and same point don't work on sandip?? Why this double standard ?? Heyy I debating all three formats not only Lois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, speedheat said: So you agree that a domestic bully k das is not good for selection based on performance and same point don't work on sandip?? Why this double standard ?? Heyy I debating all three formats not only Lois. K Das’s average is 41. Sandip’s is 24. K Das’s T20 average is 123. Sandip’s is 21. We are comparing chalk and cheese here. The points are not same. Okay, the goalposts have been shifted now. I was not discussing Tests anywhere. Chalo, enough discussion. Time for a timeout to get on with life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Lord has answered it effectively. Hit the ball out of the park, basically. He still didn't answer my one question regarding sandip and is avoiding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 K Das’s average is 41. Sandip’s is 24. K Das’s T20 average is 123. Sandip’s is 21. We are comparing chalk and cheese here. The points are not same. Okay, the goalposts have been shifted now. I was not discussing Tests anywhere. Chalo, enough discussion. Time for a timeout to get on with life. I don't follow stats I want a skill set in a bowler which is must I am confused your defending sandips selection or against it?? If you're defending then please answer how many of those below 135k bowlers are successful in internationals ?? As compare to genuinely fast pacers like wndies brigade wasim and waquar etc??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 googled Krisna Das,first it said hes an american vocalist his List A avg is 41,theres the clue lol You're advocating sandip then please answer Where is Pace? Bounce?? Height? Good pacy yorker?? Slower one Or natural seam moment??? He is lacking or not good in all those ingredients Will you answer please???? express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Magneto said: IPL will propel them to the main team; there’s no guarantee that it will make sure that they are world beaters. Top players in BBL or these other leagues are neither world beaters. Ditto for Ranji Trophy etc. Which is why IPL performance is just one of the many factors which should be used to determine which bowlers are picked for our LOL teams. Performing in the IPL does not result in a high probability of LOI success. Different factors like ability to bowl yorkers, slower balls, surprise bouncers, pace, accuracy, ability to keep calm under pressure etc. should be used along with performances in A Team games, IPL, VH, SMA etc. to determine the suitability of a pacer for LOIs. There is also the issue of bowling combination and what kind of bowler the Indian team needs to form a good combination. Sandeep Sharma is not adept at bowling yorkers and slower balls , which is why he often finished his quota in the first 10 overs. It will be difficult for him to be in our playing 11 of he cannot be trusted to bowl at the death. Regarding bowling combination, I doubt our management is going to choose 2 medium paced swing bowlers as our 2 specialist pacers, as Bhuvi will anyway play ahead of Sandeep and we usually play only 2 specialist pacers. Edited May 7, 2017 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 On 5/5/2017 at 2:18 PM, Sidhoni said: Let it be OP, speed gun readings are all that matter around here. Yes, that's all this one brigade on ICF cares about. In one thread in particular, all they are tracking is speed gun readings as though that has any bearing on the result of the game. That 140kph ball could have been a full toss that was smashed for SIX, but the speed demons don't seem to care. Sidhoni and Magneto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, speedheat said: I don't follow stats I want a skill set in a bowler which is must I am confused your defending sandips selection or against it?? If you're defending then please answer how many of those below 135k bowlers are successful in internationals ?? As compare to genuinely fast pacers like wndies brigade wasim and waquar etc??? Genuinely fast pacers are rare. Every team has a maximum of one genuine pacer and various bowlers of other kinds. You want to mix them up, anyway. No one is saying Sandip will be a world beater with his 132-135 pace, but he can surely be in the mix, ahead of many phaast bowlers of limited use. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, speedheat said: You're advocating sandip then please answer Where is Pace? Bounce?? Height? Good pacy yorker?? Slower one Or natural seam moment??? He is lacking or not good in all those ingredients Will you answer please???? Ishant has most of those,you must love him Sandeep has swing,control and brains.And actual performances against big batsmen Texan and Sidhoni 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, speedheat said: You're advocating sandip then please answer Where is Pace? Bounce?? Height? Good pacy yorker?? Slower one Or natural seam moment??? He is lacking or not good in all those ingredients Will you answer please???? See height, chest size, forearm size are all good, but they don’t make you win matches. I agree some of these are very essential ingredients, but the consistent application of these make the difference. Sandeep can probably run through a few teams in favourable conditions; but I doubt the speed monsters can even do that. However, I do agree that if Sandeep can add a yard of pace and be around 136-137 constantly, he will be much better off. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Genuinely fast pacers are rare. Every team has a maximum of one genuine pacer and various bowlers of other kinds. You want to mix them up, anyway. No one is saying Sandip will be a world beater with his 132-135 pace, but he can surely be in the mix, ahead of many phaast bowlers of limited use. Good points, that's exactly what I wanted to hear sandip won't be a world beater, and nobody is denying his mix I was just arguing that he can't be a world beater which you agree Magneto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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