Ultimate_Game Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, bleaf27 said: Pandya is one of the best hitters ? Dude get off the IPL train......every single person hits in that including Samson , Pant , Raina , Other Pandya , Manish Pandey .. . Pandya with such limited batting innings in ODI is the best hitter is absurd In this Indian team he's the best hitter lower down the order. If you have to get a quick 15-20 runs or if you need to get in someone with a few overs remaining, Pandya is the man. express bowling and Ankit_sharma03 2
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 With only 7 international ODI innings - Pandya is considered as one of the best hitters in world cricket ? Really ?
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya is one of the best hitters ? Dude get off the IPL train......every single person hits in that including Samson , Pant , Raina , Other Pandya , Manish Pandey .. . Pandya with such limited batting innings in ODI is the best hitter is absurd PAnt n raina are also best among the ones when it comes to hitting Pandey is a proper batsman n so is samson, they dnt go bang bang from ball 1 pandya does Forget IPL, did u watch pandya smash mustafizur in asia cup n even his batting against Ind-SL t20 series, Did u see his hitting against Pak n even bang in warmup game Thats enough international games i have counted u in his short career May b u need start watching IPL carefully Find me better 6 hitter then Pandya in India zen 1
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, Ultimate_Game said: In this Indian team he's the best hitter lower down the order. If you have to get a quick 15-20 runs or if you need to get in someone with a few overs remaining, Pandya is the man. That is why we have jadhav and Dhoni in the end and Jadeja if needed. So let's say Pandya gets 10-15 runs in the end. And he bowls 6-7 overs with 8 RPO How is that of any use ? that's a wasted spot
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: With only 7 international ODI innings - Pandya is considered as one of the best hitters in world cricket ? Really ? Dude get ur specs on.....country is diff from world Ultimate_Game 1
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: PAnt n raina are also best among the ones when it comes to hitting Pandey is a proper batsman n so is samson, they dnt go bang bang from ball 1 pandya does Forget IPL, did u watch pandya smash mustafizur in asia cup n even his batting against Ind-SL t20 series, Did u see his hitting against Pak n even bang in warmup game Thats enough international games i have counted u in his short career May b u need start watching IPL carefully Find me better 6 hitter then Pandya in India Do you know how many International ODI's Pandya has played ? Better six hitter ? - Dhoni , Yuvi , Yusuf Pathan come to my mind right away , way before Pandya. IPL isn't international cricket. Saw his hitting against Sri Lanka already in this CT
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: Dude get ur specs on.....country is diff from world Specs on mate ...lemme re phrase if that makes it easier to answer With 7 ODI innings so far , makes him the best power hitter in India ?
Ultimate_Game Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, bleaf27 said: That is why we have jadhav and Dhoni in the end and Jadeja if needed. So let's say Pandya gets 10-15 runs in the end. And he bowls 6-7 overs with 8 RPO How is that of any use ? that's a wasted spot We need more depth as India's model of success is based on 7 Batsmen theory. It worked under Ganguly and Dhoni took it to another level. Pandya's inclusion allows top order and specialist batsmen to breathe more easily and play their shots without fear of collapse coz they know they have likes of Pandya is batting at 7. it's not just the number of runs Pandya or a no. 7 scores, it also impacts the way other batsmen play without fear and freely knowing they have more depth. Plus he's a gun fielder and he has done pretty well with the ball against Pakistan in limited matches he has played against them.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: That is why we have jadhav and Dhoni in the end and Jadeja if needed. So let's say Pandya gets 10-15 runs in the end. And he bowls 6-7 overs with 8 RPO How is that of any use ? that's a wasted spot Umesh can go for that many runs, infact any bowler can. Bhuvi has been smashed for 100 What their use after that Ashwin cant field or his batting is of no use in lower order Pandya is an asset on field ......... And for information pandya economy is 5.82 which is very decent in modern cricket Add his fielding n s/r HE can contribute anywere......Pandya cant be even touched Question can be raised over yuvi, the guy is horrible in field, doesnt bowl and his batting looks shoddy
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Do you know how many International ODI's Pandya has played ? Better six hitter ? - Dhoni , Yuvi , Yusuf Pathan come to my mind right away , way before Pandya. IPL isn't international cricket. Saw his hitting against Sri Lanka already in this CT I had a doubt u stopped watching international cricket in 2011 and now m 100 sure u did Dhoni wud himself tell he is not the hitter he use to be Yusuf cud only smash spinner Yuvraj is not even a shadow of his past
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, Ultimate_Game said: We need more depth as India's model of success is based on 7 Batsmen theory. It worked under Ganguly and Dhoni took it to another level. Pandya's inclusion allows top order and specialist batsmen to breathe more easily and play their shots without fear of collapse coz they know they have likes of Pandya is batting at 7. it's not just the number of runs Pandya or a no. 7 scores, it also impacts the way other batsmen play without fear and freely knowing they have more depth. Plus he's a gun fielder and he has done pretty well with the ball against Pakistan in limited matches he has played against them. Thing is each spot in the team should offer something. How well you can be utliized is highly important especially when you have a very strong bench strength. Pandya today and against Sri Lanka was utterly useless. Against SA - he had the highest RPO with only 1 wicket. If out of 11 players , you cannot bowl your third seamer which would be Pandya and he isn't able to play more than 3 overs or doesn't get a chance to bat - might as well go for a specialist bowler that can definitely make an impact ?
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Specs on mate ...lemme re phrase if that makes it easier to answer With 7 ODI innings so far , makes him the best power hitter in India ? Watever chances he has go he has performed , so why shud i doubt him Doubt wud have been had he performed in only one game... Jadeja cudnt even fetch this in his whole career 189 runs in 7 innings at 7 is good Edited June 15, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 Ultimate_Game 1
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Umesh can go for that many runs, infact any bowler can. Bhuvi has been smashed for 100 What their use after that Ashwin cant field or his batting is of no use in lower order Pandya is an asset on field ......... And for information pandya economy is 5.82 which is very decent in modern cricket Add his fielding n s/r HE can contribute anywere......Pandya cant be even touched Question can be raised over yuvi, the guy is horrible in field, doesnt bowl and his batting looks shoddy Pandya can't be touched for you bud , not for everyone .....other people may not think so highly of him. Ashwin can contain if not strike when bowling . Pandya cannot contain and he isn't being the strike bowler in the middle overs. So if Pandya cannot pick wickets - leave his RPO alone , why not bring Shami in who is a better Strike bowler who can open and Bumrah can bowl as the 3rd seamer in the middle overs
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: Watever chances he has go he has performed , so why shud i doubt him Doubt wud have been had he performed in only one game... Jadeja cudnt even fetch this in his whole career 189 runs in 7 innings at 7 is good Isn't worthy of writing any accolades about. 189 runs in 7 innings is very average at best. and with his horrendous bowling - quite a liability right now
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 @bleaf27 By Jaddu had 159 runs at 65 s/r and he is better than pandya in 7 inings ... 65
Ultimate_Game Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bleaf27 said: Thing is each spot in the team should offer something. How well you can be utliized is highly important especially when you have a very strong bench strength. Pandya today and against Sri Lanka was utterly useless. Against SA - he had the highest RPO with only 1 wicket. If out of 11 players , you cannot bowl your third seamer which would be Pandya and he isn't able to play more than 3 overs or doesn't get a chance to bat - might as well go for a specialist bowler that can definitely make an impact ? Against SA he got DuPlessis with a killer slower ball and got ABDV with his wonderful fielding which changed the match. Today he would've done the same had he not dismissed Tamim off a no-ball. Plus he does well against Pakistan. Overall he has done well and as I mentioned earlier, the top order may not play as freely knowing the tail starts from no. 6 onwards instead of from 8. Makes a huge difference to the balance of the team. You select the team based on what role you expect each player to fulfill. Pandya's role is to score quickly and bowl middle overs taking a wkt or two. You don't change the rules after the fact coz no. 7 never got the chance to bat. Things could be different in the final and we may need no. 7 to step in with the bat (I hope not though ) and if that happens I would prefer Pandya at 7 instead of Jaddu or Ashwin. sandeep 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya can't be touched for you bud , not for everyone .....other people may not think so highly of him. Ashwin can contain if not strike when bowling . Pandya cannot contain and he isn't being the strike bowler in the middle overs. So if Pandya cannot pick wickets - leave his RPO alone , why not bring Shami in who is a better Strike bowler who can open and Bumrah can bowl as the 3rd seamer in the middle overs Pandya picks wkts he has 12 wkts in 11 games means he picks wkts....so rubbish argument Hadnt it been ashwin brillaint fielding today he wud have picked up wkt today as well sandeep and Ultimate_Game 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Isn't worthy of writing any accolades about. 189 runs in 7 innings is very average at best. and with his horrendous bowling - quite a liability right now 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: @bleaf27 By Jaddu had 159 runs at 65 s/r and he is better than pandya in 7 inings ... 65 Then how come u said jadeja is better at 7 what did u expect him u had 400 runs Horrendous bowling ......hahahhahahahah u need to really check his stats and others Eco- Pandya- 5.82 shami- 5.54 Umesh - 6 Wkt taking He is taking a wkt every game 11 games- 12 wkts Bhuvi - 63 games - 67 wkt....a wkt a game Yes so hows it horrendous express bowling and New guy 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Pandya can't be touched for you bud , not for everyone .....other people may not think so highly of him. Ashwin can contain if not strike when bowling . Pandya cannot contain and he isn't being the strike bowler in the middle overs. So if Pandya cannot pick wickets - leave his RPO alone , why not bring Shami in who is a better Strike bowler who can open and Bumrah can bowl as the 3rd seamer in the middle overs containing he has given more then 6rpo in recent past then pandya has Check stats, get over ur delusions Pandya has only give over 6rpo once in his career only once.......n against pak line up we need cushion in batting rather being scared that their avg batsman will smash pandya Ultimate_Game and express bowling 2
bleaf27 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: @bleaf27 By Jaddu had 159 runs at 65 s/r and he is better than pandya in 7 inings ... 65 Not better , comparable
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