zen Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Yes thats called the mentality of those educated in Indian history, unlike you. No reasoning has been provided , only blank assertions from you. Sorry but until you can presentreasoning behind your assertions, we can all see that toy have nothing significant to contribute India >>>> Bharat for all who care about our cultural history The mentality has been discussed including foreign inclinations Bharat should be predominant as discussed and of course you have it in you to make claims on behalf on an organization without even having in you to mention your name and position (another reflection on the mentality discussed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, zen said: The mentality has been discussed including foreign inclinations Thats another of your baseless allegations. The mentality is one of those who know Indian history and know that India/hindh is a more historically significant term even for locals than Bharat 13 minutes ago, zen said: Bharat should be predominant as discussed India should be predominant as discussed since it is more culturally and historically representative than a solitary Hindu epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Thats another of your baseless allegations. The mentality is one of those who know Indian history and know that India/hindh is a more historically significant term even for locals than Bharat India should be predominant as discussed since it is more culturally and historically representative than a solitary Hindu epic That opinion of yours = zilch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, zen said: That opinion of yours = zilch Yours is worth even less because you haven’t even supplied justifying reasons or a debate. Nobody here cares for your ignorant opinions either. India >>>>> Bharat for reasons of our cultural history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Yours is worth even less because you haven’t even supplied justifying reasons or a debate. Nobody here cares for your ignorant opinions either. India >>>>> Bharat for reasons of our cultural history Spam alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, zen said: Spam alert Says the spammer himself who literally made the most useless post ever ( the quoted one). Seems like you have a need to get the last word. sarcastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Says the spammer himself who literally made the most useless post ever ( the quoted one). Seems like you have a need to get the last word. Another spam alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, zen said: Another spam alert Spammer spamming by saying spam alert just to have the last word. sarcastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Spammer spamming by saying spam alert just to have the last word. I get alerts when you quote me with your spam .... only quote me if you have a valid point, not the thrown out dumb stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, zen said: I get alerts when you quote me with your spam .... only quote me if you have a valid point, not the thrown out dumb stuff Your authority to throw out stuff is rejected since you have no rationale justified or logic behind it. india is more culturally important to us because it’s persianized version hindh/Hindustan has been used by our Hindu ancestors more than Bharat. Period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Your authority to throw out stuff is rejected since you have no rationale justified or logic behind it. india is more culturally important to us because it’s persianized version hindh/Hindustan has been used by our Hindu ancestors more than Bharat. Period Spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: india >> Bharat because India is more representational of our cultural history. Majority of Indians doesn’t know India as regional languages still call India, Bharat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, zen said: Spam Spams by saying spam. Any excuse to get the last word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Majority of Indians doesn’t know India as regional languages still call India, Bharat. It doesn’t change the fact that majority of our literature uses Hindustan, aryadesh and jambhudwip more than Bharat and hindh/Hindustan/India has much greater historical traction than Bharat. It’s due to the local language popularity that Bharat has even been given co-name status. If it was purely based on what names have the greatest cultural continuity,usage and history, it’d be India/hindh and aryadesh/jambhudwip more than Bharat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Spams by saying spam. Any excuse to get the last word spam sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, zen said: spam Ok spammer, have the last word, since you can’t present a reasoned argument and justify his reasonings. Superficial Hindus like you are LOL-worthy sarcastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, Muloghonto said: It doesn’t change the fact that majority of our literature uses Hindustan, aryadesh and jambhudwip more than Bharat and hindh/Hindustan/India has much greater historical traction than Bharat. It’s due to the local language popularity that Bharat has even been given co-name status. If it was purely based on what names have the greatest cultural continuity,usage and history, it’d be India/hindh and aryadesh/jambhudwip more than Bharat Doubt your assertion about medieval literature, unless you mean Persian literature Of Moghul period which is not Bharatiya So why didn’t other names stand the test of popularity in regional languages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Doubt your assertion about medieval literature, unless you mean Persian literature Of Moghul period which is not Bharatiya So why didn’t other names stand the test of popularity in regional languages? No, even in bharatiya literature. Samrat hemu’s proclamation was as samrat of Hindustan. Shivaji used Hindustan way more than Bharat. The last historical treaters composed by Kalhana in 12th century uses Hindustan and aryavarta way more than Bharat. The other names dont stand test test of time ? Hindustan is still just as often used as bharot in Bengali and way more in Hindi.... religion and Mahabharata played the part in making an obscure term like Bharat more popular in the last 200 odd years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Ok spammer, have the last word, since you can’t present a reasoned argument and justify his reasonings. Superficial Hindus like you are LOL-worthy Spam sandeep and Muloghonto 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: No, even in bharatiya literature. Samrat hemu’s proclamation was as samrat of Hindustan. Shivaji used Hindustan way more than Bharat. The last historical treaters composed by Kalhana in 12th century uses Hindustan and aryavarta way more than Bharat. The other names dont stand test test of time ? Hindustan is still just as often used as bharot in Bengali and way more in Hindi.... religion and Mahabharata played the part in making an obscure term like Bharat more popular in the last 200 odd years Yes, from the 12th century till Shivaji in the 17th century, with proliferation of Indian literature scene with influences from Persian, Turkish languages, Hindustan was more popular, but Sanskrit, regional language literature from at least Kannada and Telugu that I have read, has maintained Bharatiya influence even in that period. In the 18th century Urdu was the official language in Awadh, people had to fight back British to recognize Hindi. In that scenario, naturally Hindustan will be popular in use and also in literature . But since in mid 1800s onwards, with the freedom struggle movements in Punjab, Bengal, and Maharashtra , Bharat is in use with slogans of Bharatmata ki jai in vogue along with Hindustan zindabad. Hence, the highest civilian award is called BharatRatna and not Taj-e-Hindustan or some such nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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