Sachinism Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 we're seeing the same thing from dravid over and over now gets in, does nothing, lets aussies get on top and then gets out i think he should play more attacking, cant do himself any harm, he's not scoring anyway playing more attacking, if a few runs are scored, aussies will get a bit more defensive, opening up a few more gaps for singles Link to comment
Ram Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Give him a break will you, he just won a test match for you in Perth ! Link to comment
HouMac Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'm telling you...if he hadn't been so outrageously lucky in every inning he would've had a series average of below 15. Heck, his current average isn't all that much better than that either. Link to comment
theguyinallblue Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 sachin was doing the same...few matches ago... Let Dravid play himself in....he will be alright.. Link to comment
HouMac Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Give him a break will you' date=' he just won a test match for you in Perth ![/quote'] After being dropped on 11(Clarke dropped a dolly) and then not given out plumb lbw when he was on 67. Link to comment
HouMac Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 sachin was doing the same...few matches ago... Let Dravid play himself in....he will be alright.. Come on man, Dravid hasn't done anything for a year now. Failed in SA, England and now Australia(averaging around 30 or below in this series I believe). Link to comment
Sachinism Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 sachin was doing the same...few matches ago... Let Dravid play himself in....he will be alright.. but sachin was usually going on but dravid plays himself in for so long and then gets out Link to comment
guju24 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 just bad days and one bad series for dravid thats all...i think he will bounce bak against South africa... Link to comment
Ram Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 After being dropped on 11(Clarke dropped a dolly) and then not given out plumb lbw when he was on 67. What else ? The sun was too much on the Aussie fielders eyes' ? Or maybe Lee didnt have a good breakfast on Day 1 ? :P Link to comment
satishg Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 i guess he needs some reassurance from AK saying that his batting position wud not change..he is battling in his mind more than on the pitch..needs to take his time off and hope he comes all guns blazing against SA..he is too gud a player to have a slump..so he ll bounce back soon.. Link to comment
Dravid Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 he got a life in this 1 too.. plumb lbw against jhonson not given.. am starting to agree with selectors of dropping him form odi's.. but tests, he should still stay Link to comment
fineleg Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Playing good strokes, from backlift to completing the shot will help. Instead of just poking and withdrawing the bat, and then turning the face of the bat. Thats getting him in trouble. Play more freely, RD. Dont poke and prod. Link to comment
CC1981 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 The solution is SIMPLE : Last time (IIRC) Dravid hit a rough patch, he was demoted to #6, with Laxman promoted to #3 and the rest is history! For the life in me, i cannot figure out why the Indian team management isn't proactive enough to try this. Yes, Dravid has been awesome at #3 but when he is in an extended rough patch, he needs to be under less pressure, not more. And lets face it, #3 is a very stressful position in the Indian lineup, given that we've always had a pretty pathetic opening combo. Dravid has done very well at #6 IIRC and so has Laxman at #3 ( IIRC, he averages 49 at #3). Just shuffle those two and i think problem will be solved. Once Dravid gets to play himself in against spinners and tired fast bowlers and puts up few good scores, he'd have enough confidence to anchor #3 again, if required. Link to comment
King Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Geez.... u guys must be expecting our batters to score 100s of evey inning. He got 91 the last test match. Does it count for anything? About 6 months ago there was a lot of questions asked about Tendulkar and now it's Rahul Dravid. If Ganguly fails this inning I'm sure you will put him under the scanner too. Why do you guys worry in what fasion are the runs coming? As long as it comes it's all good. No way can you expect all the batsmen to score 50s and 100s always. At any point in time only about 4 guys are in top form that's good enough for the team. Rahul has contributed in this test series not with standing the number of dropped catches or anything. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 The solution is SIMPLE : Last time (IIRC) Dravid hit a rough patch, he was demoted to #6, with Laxman promoted to #3 and the rest is history! For the life in me, i cannot figure out why the Indian team management isn't proactive enough to try this. Yes, Dravid has been awesome at #3 but when he is in an extended rough patch, he needs to be under less pressure, not more. And lets face it, #3 is a very stressful position in the Indian lineup, given that we've always had a pretty pathetic opening combo. Dravid has done very well at #6 IIRC and so has Laxman at #3 ( IIRC, he averages 49 at #3). Just shuffle those two and i think problem will be solved. Once Dravid gets to play himself in against spinners and tired fast bowlers and puts up few good scores, he'd have enough confidence to anchor #3 again, if required. good point id like to see laxman further up the order, this is a move which could benefit both players Link to comment
bunny Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Playing good strokes, from backlift to completing the shot will help. Instead of just poking and withdrawing the bat, and then turning the face of the bat. Thats getting him in trouble. Very well said. This might sound strange but he needs to leave more (or practice those cover drives). A 3/4-down position will also help immensely. It's so strange that even when he isn't doing well against the new ball he still comes out at 1-down. Link to comment
King Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Very well said. This might sound strange but he needs to leave more (or practice those cover drives). A 3/4-down position will also help immensely. It's so strange that even when he isn't doing well against the new ball he still comes out at 1-down. When timing is awry it happens. You push more at the ball than hit hard or leave it. Of late he's been pushing the bat a little too much. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 come on dude.. why such dravid hatred just after one inning?? guy is a legend.. scored most runs for us last game.. Link to comment
bunny Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 The solution is SIMPLE : Last time (IIRC) Dravid hit a rough patch, he was demoted to #6, with Laxman promoted to #3 and the rest is history! For the life in me, i cannot figure out why the Indian team management isn't proactive enough to try this. Yes, Dravid has been awesome at #3 but when he is in an extended rough patch, he needs to be under less pressure, not more. And lets face it, #3 is a very stressful position in the Indian lineup, given that we've always had a pretty pathetic opening combo. Dravid has done very well at #6 IIRC and so has Laxman at #3 ( IIRC, he averages 49 at #3). Just shuffle those two and i think problem will be solved. Once Dravid gets to play himself in against spinners and tired fast bowlers and puts up few good scores, he'd have enough confidence to anchor #3 again, if required. btw since (and including) the SA series, RD averages close to 40 or 45 when we have a 50 run opening partnership. Otherwise he averages close to 20. So it's quite clear he is massively struggling against the new ball. On the other hand he hasn't looked really convincing against spin as well but you have to give him a whole series where he doesn't have to bat against the new ball. That might work for him. (Although I'm not a big fan of VVS having to face the new ball. He also has tremendous stats when the openers play out at least 10-15 overs, otherwise he tends to struggle. So, it's not an easy situation to be in). Link to comment
Anakin Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Agree with CC, he should bat at #6 and VVS at #3, specially against OZs Link to comment
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