Tobacco Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, dial_100 said: India cannot afford to lose Kashmir and definitely not to the terrorists. Just because they are in majority is not an entitlement for a separate state. Plus, ask your brothers to stop all the dramas. THese terrorist are sitting on the graves of native kashmiri pandits, Hindus and Sikhs. They would have had an outside chance (.0001%) of people supporting their religious separatism but they lost it 30-40 years ago when they massacred kashmiri pandits. I think you need a nuanced understanding; a whole population who never wanted to be with India is only seeking what they were promised - right to choose. If you listen to the interview, you might learn a bit more given that sources are your fellow countrymen and your intelligence agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobacco Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Muloghonto said: you are mistaken. We have an 'out of sight/out of mind' mentality towards past problems, especially when they are not our own. The only reason the Kashmiri seperatists have not had much takers in the west is because of politics of the Cold War (where the west did not want to push India decisively in the Soviet camp) and then the western atipathy towards Islam currently. However, if the western ultra-progressives become the majority (which is likely in the future), then they will take a 'whats done is done, it cannot be changed, but what can be changed, is that a bunch of people over there want independence and you are oppressing them'. India cannot afford to sit around and do nothing, we HAVE to start altering the religious demographics of Kashmir. Perhaps those measures are India's only hope given that everything else is about oppression. It is not like they are appeasing the locals either. Why can't they address what Indian media below is saying? Here is the direct link : https://youtu.be/1rTcMz_uuSw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tobacco said: Perhaps those measures are India's only hope given that everything else is about oppression. It is not like they are appeasing the locals either. Why can't they address what Indian media below is saying? employment rate in Kashmir will always be low if Pakistan keeps formenting terrorism there. Kashmir valley & Jammu are densely populated regions, which rely on service sector to generate revenue. With terrorism & instability, its always the service/manufacturing sectors that take a nosedive. So if you wish Kashmiri employment to rise, petition Pakistan to stop formenting terrorism in Kashmir by training & funding terrorists. As for oppression, i am sorry but thats nonsense. Most Kashmiris in history have shown up to vote - which is a direct endorsement of the nation they are in. Most Kashmiris also enjoy privilege - economic an social- that rest of India does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Force is a bitter reality unfortunately. All Palestinians and even the neighbouring Arab States opposed Israel, but use of force by Israel made all of them to retreat and at last give up their demands. For me, no state has a right to exist till it accepts the Universal Declaration of Human Rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobacco Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Muloghonto said: employment rate in Kashmir will always be low if Pakistan keeps formenting terrorism there. Kashmir valley & Jammu are densely populated regions, which rely on service sector to generate revenue. With terrorism & instability, its always the service/manufacturing sectors that take a nosedive. So if you wish Kashmiri employment to rise, petition Pakistan to stop formenting terrorism in Kashmir by training & funding terrorists. As for oppression, i am sorry but thats nonsense. Most Kashmiris in history have shown up to vote - which is a direct endorsement of the nation they are in. Most Kashmiris also enjoy privilege - economic an social- that rest of India does not. You have not addressed the issues raised in the above video, which is all coming from your own media. As far as the new issues you have raised please hear your OWN intelligence agencies here who admit the problem is domestic: https://youtu.be/YG7wFEgh33g Educated debate addresses questions raised. So watch it and then answer. Who knows I may agree with you then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 ^ who are these idiots peddling all make believe stories and why are you peddling all these videos here?Everybody knows that India doesn’t bothers to talk to Pakistan no matter how much the Jehadis try to get it to talk to some entity in Pakistan, only to attack India next day to test its patience.There’s no point talking o Pakistan... nothing will happen... Clarke and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Taapsee Pannu had so much promise. It's a tragedy that bhaiwood got to her as well. Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Tobacco said: You have not addressed the issues raised in the above video, which is all coming from your own media. As far as the new issues you have raised please hear your OWN intelligence agencies here who admit the problem is domestic: https://youtu.be/YG7wFEgh33g Educated debate addresses questions raised. So watch it and then answer. Who knows I may agree with you then. the economic issue is NOT raised as a domestic one, neither is it a domestic one. Simple reality is, a region with service based economy will suffer gravely due to security risk, which is what Pakistan has created for Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHONI_FANN Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, surajmal said: Taapsee Pannu had so much promise. It's a tragedy that bhaiwood got to her as well. Bollywood is hand in gloves with Bhaiwood. Totally expected UrmiSinhaRay, Switchblade and Turning_track 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobacco Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 9:06 PM, Muloghonto said: the economic issue is NOT raised as a domestic one, neither is it a domestic one. Simple reality is, a region with service based economy will suffer gravely due to security risk, which is what Pakistan has created for Kashmir. These reports contradict your view. Instead, it is India which is creating security risk: https://youtu.be/Rckn_ktkFSs indian source again. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 ^ Who are these chewts on these videos? Some librandu activists uploaded YouTube videos which you’ve been given the task to peddle here... UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrmiSinhaRay Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Bollywood is funded and maintained by the Muslim fundamentalists and Dawood. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Tobacco said: These reports contradict your view. Instead, it is India which is creating security risk: https://youtu.be/Rckn_ktkFSs indian source again. youtube is not a source. And there is nothing contradictory about the idea that if it wasn't for Pakistan sponsoring terrorist camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, security in the region would be a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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