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22 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


I'm being serious - though my assumptions are based partly on gossip and observations which may not be visible to people with less IQ.


1)Dhoni doesn't like to persist with people he considers his enemies - that is,  they can challenge his authority.
More than anything,  Gauti and Subsequently Sehwag were removed not BECAUSE their forms went down - but because they were challenging his authority and were the sane minds in the dressing room
2)Dhoni doesn't like anybody who opposes him or even tries to put scratch on him.
We all know about the Mohinder Amarnath incident.
Also Dhoni has ended multiple careers and we all know nicely about it.
3) 2014-2017 was a down time of Dhoni with His career curve going down,  sugar daddy Srini Mamu being fired and all those Lodha Commission debacles.
Unbeknownst to everybody,  Lodha Commission had their own agendas,  and to implement it - they needed a change of guard.
They chose Kohli as their pawn and soft forced Dhoni to leave Captaincy in steps eventually .



4)This is a known fact because multiple independent sources with strong connections have said this and It is kinda evident in media too - Selectors are paper tigers with no power.
They're just scapegoats  kept there to be used as punching bags by public in case anything goes wrong.
The real power lies with CoA who runs the show with the help Of Virat,  Anu,  Karnesh and Shastri.

So don't pay special heed to those selectors are doing this and that blah blah blah.
These are PR articles put by the real powers to show their rivals in place.

5)Now , just think why "selectors" would be angry about a goodwill gesture about Rohit allowing Dhoni to captain a faltu match against Afghanistan to complete his 200th quota and raise questions about "why they're reverting to Dhoni because they need a new captain for 2019"
Even I don't like Dhoni much but just don't see the logic about getting angry on this because Kohli is clearly going to be the boss.
And if Kohli is SOO fond of Dhoni - he wouldn't have minded on this thing because, after all,  this is an inconsequential match.

5) Now look at the news closely and read between the lines.
There is a factional war going on between Rohit and Kohli if you believe the gossips.
Rohit won Asia Cup and dropped a lot of sly remarks on Kohli's operational style and I bet it was his Idea to Give Dhoni captaincy by giving him an opportunity to captain the team for the 200th time and it's evident Rohit is using Dhoni as a ladder to achieve his target.
Now,  Rohit won the Cup but didn't get half the appreciation Kohli received after winning series in SA and Eng and even Rohit himself after winning Nidahas.
Which means he's fallen out of favour by the current CoA.
6)Now - I get Dhoni is bad,  Dhoni is complacent,  Dhoni is over and everything else.

But you know - I've noticed, ever since 2014 and that Shashank Manohar led gang with Lodha Commission came , there has been an active witch hunting against Dhoni.

I don't really like him but I notice that The current management is really very very dismissive of him and uses various excuses to undermine him


Sorry - but I found the excuse of grooming a new leader and blah blah being a reason given for giving captaincy to Dhoni for one match very rude and dismissive. 


6) selections aren't entirely meritocratic. 

Ever thought why many players don't get selected despite giving good performances while mediocre players get selected? 

Do you really think how suddenly selectors grew a spine and kicked Dhawan and Rohit out of the Test Team? 

They can't kick these 2 out of LoIs yet because they're performing. 


I am not undermining him nor saying his untalented but I always found Pant's rapid rise suspicious.

Especially hyping him as "Next MSD" Instead of being a simple Wicketkeeper-Batsman? 

Despite giving a better performance, didn't we see how unfairly KS Bharat was dropped in favour of Pant who was fast tracked into the scenario and then given a debut soon enough? 

Yes,  he has been good but nothing is meritocratic in Indian Cricket but has more to do with politics.


This part will sound like a figment of my imagination but the reality is Pant is being used as a pawn to kick off Dhoni off the team

Else a junior player never gets this much air time in media because our media is full of agendas. 


7)Dhoni and Kohli's relationship has disintegrated. 

Especially since it's kind of evident that Dhoni is Rohit's Bhishmapitamah now. 

Else the guy who took Suresh Raina in England tour is now using Pant as a "cover" in ODIs for "Struggling" Dhoni? 

Yes we'll find it as an eye opening because yes, Dhoni has been really redundant but it is equally a farce like Chahar and Kaul's selection.




8) Pant is being bigged up for the game just like Kohli was being soft launched after that England Tour to kick off Dhoni from the Test team - and then eventually the LoI team. 


I think Dhoni too will be drop kicked out of the team soon under the pretense of bad performance EVEN before the World Cup by Kohli. 

And already looking at the repercussions, I fear about The likes of Rahul,  Pant who are possibly being used as bogeymans to keep Kohli's antis on bay. 



No wonder Rohit has shed his laziness and upped his games. 

He Knows that his and Dhawan's place is on stake and can be kicked off anytime. 

9) Kohli's place is itself in risk. 

(regime change on cards -check. 

He's been a CoA/Manohar stooge for long anyways and whoever is coming is probably going to remove Kohli because....) 

I bet Rohit was planning the coup since long time and Dhoni was backing him secretly .

The CoA is trying to give Rohit an olive branch but he's unlikely to back off. 


Sorry for the long post but Mr. Philcric,  please don't make fun of my opinions. 

I might be dramatic but eventually stuff happens right like this. 



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That's a lot of text. It's all over the place. Some of it makes sense to me like a possible friction between Kohli and Rohit, quite a bit doesn't esp. regarding Pant's selection as suspicious (Pant and Rahul if anything are shortchanged in LOIs), Anushka and his brother having a say in selection, selectors using players against Dhoni (if anything most of the borderline players in LOIs are from CSK like Rayudu, Jaddu, Chahar).

 

Assumptions can be within reason based on logic and plausibility. They can also be extremely far fetched when one makes a farcical connection between the dots based mainly on gossip. Many of your assumptions/opinions fall in the latter category IMO.

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11 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

 

 

 

 

 

Hey thanks for supporting me!!!

I'll say the part of Pant is my imagination but I've heard similar stuff about Kohli being Used as Pawn against Dhoni earlier and The situation is going in the same direction

 

Whenever there is a change in Power in BCCI - they fire the old captain and get a new one.

And eventually soft force that guy out of team.

Only Dhoni was allowed in the team so long because he had his teammates beside him, supporting him unconditionally and whoever running BCCI circa CoA takeover is being forced to persist with him because of the marketing appeal and lack of suitable alternatives.

In that way, I can understand the desperation of CoA/Kohli/"Selectors" to suddenly grow concerned of Dhoni's form and keep Pant on

I know Dhoni is redundant now but selections are not AT ALL meritocratic.

Especially when the guy considered is the Juggernaut of Indian Cricket - worshipped by Millions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni.

 

There is clearly an effort to make people think that Pant is the better alternative and I personally believe if the CoA(whoever is selecting the team) got their way - they would drop Dhoni and take Pant instead.

 

What I get - a KLR, A Hardik, A Pant, is not going to be King (kong) Kohli's threat to popularity.

They'll always be a minion to his gigantic image.

A Pujara or Rahane or An Ashwin were his contemporaries - and the way Rohit is a legitimate threat to Kohli's market in 2 weeks ,I realise Soft spoken quiet Cricketers are likely to get more popularity in the market than a Loud , bratty one like Virat.

 

Dhawan was this funny nachaniya and Rohit the fat double century hitter but they were never the legitimate threats to Kohli's throne.

 

Even then - Their Test careers too never took off and I believe both of them were shortchanged in this format.

They are in ODI matter of things because they've been groomed by Dhoni for long in this arena and also they've legitimately performed and earned a name for them in this format so Kohli doesn't have the right to kick them out.

Yes - we might think A Rohit or A Dhawan was kicked out because they weren't performing and that our "selectors" were "progressive".

No.

First of all - do you even think that The likes of Gagan Khoda , MSK Prasad and what was the other guy's name? Can legitimately question Dhoni's one day captaincy in Asia Cup, keep Pant as a backup and kick Dhoni out from Captaincy?

Hypothetically yes.

But in reality, these guys don't have any teal power of worth and are punching bags used to absorb the heat on behalf of CoA (Vinod Rai/Diana Edulji) who are hell bent on fighting with the old guard, which includes Dhoni.

The team management AFAIK is run by Kohli, Shastri ,Anushka and his brother.

 

I think these Asia Cup changed everything.

Rohit and Dhawan fell out of favour - now they're trying to drop Dhoni

Among the 4 I named , I'm discounting Shastri as a 2 faced cunt anyways plus I believe he'll play for Rohit because of Mumbai Lobby unity.

 

All these selectors doing this and that against Dhoni is Anushka and Kohli showing their displeasure of Dhoni siding with Rohit in the Mahabattle .

 

Now - Kohli's place itself is in danger.

Partly because of the same regime Change- they won't keep CoA's stooge like Kohli for long in their game.

 

I heard this Rohit vs Kohli game arose partially because of the results of this faction war in BCCI boardrooms.

Dhoni is Dhoni for who he is - that's why he's still in Team despite his time being up itself after Srini Mamu got fired.

He enjoys an immense fanbase in the dressing rooms which will go lengths to support him unlike Sourav who was deserted by his friends.

There is a reason after all this, Kohli too was trying to get Dhoni on his side - he KNEW only Dhoni can save his kursi .

Unfortunately Rohit became Arjun and roped in Krishna Dhoni right before Duryodhan Kohli.

Or he was Team Anti-Kohli right from the beginning.

And given the way Kohli is supposedly involved with his ouster from captaincy, I'm sure this is the case because Dhoni never forgives the ones who challenge him.

Pant too will suffer just because he's a pawn against Dhoni even if he's not really involved in this ****( I don't think a junior player like him has the guts to go against the Biggest Mafia).

 

And if Kohli Thinks Shastri will save him, then he can go and eat his own Shite because Kohli lost Mumbai Lobby support

The moment Rohit wasn't taken in the Test Squad in England Tour.

And why they'll even NOT try to go All the way to make their Blue Eyed Bwoy Rohit the Biggest Boss ?

Shardul Thakur and Prithvi Shaw be damned - the real deal is Rohit Sharma

 

I think among these new kids, only Prithvi Shaw is a threat for Kohli because of Mumbai connection and perceived Sachin resemblance.

 

 

 

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Eyi eto lomba kothai theke lkhe nish...

Orey baba

But,yes you have said the unsaid:congrats:

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11 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

 

 

 

 

 

Hey thanks for supporting me!!!

I'll say the part of Pant is my imagination but I've heard similar stuff about Kohli being Used as Pawn against Dhoni earlier and The situation is going in the same direction

 

Whenever there is a change in Power in BCCI - they fire the old captain and get a new one.

And eventually soft force that guy out of team.

Only Dhoni was allowed in the team so long because he had his teammates beside him, supporting him unconditionally and whoever running BCCI circa CoA takeover is being forced to persist with him because of the marketing appeal and lack of suitable alternatives.

In that way, I can understand the desperation of CoA/Kohli/"Selectors" to suddenly grow concerned of Dhoni's form and keep Pant on

I know Dhoni is redundant now but selections are not AT ALL meritocratic.

Especially when the guy considered is the Juggernaut of Indian Cricket - worshipped by Millions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni.

 

There is clearly an effort to make people think that Pant is the better alternative and I personally believe if the CoA(whoever is selecting the team) got their way - they would drop Dhoni and take Pant instead.

 

What I get - a KLR, A Hardik, A Pant, is not going to be King (kong) Kohli's threat to popularity.

They'll always be a minion to his gigantic image.

A Pujara or Rahane or An Ashwin were his contemporaries - and the way Rohit is a legitimate threat to Kohli's market in 2 weeks ,I realise Soft spoken quiet Cricketers are likely to get more popularity in the market than a Loud , bratty one like Virat.

 

Dhawan was this funny nachaniya and Rohit the fat double century hitter but they were never the legitimate threats to Kohli's throne.

 

Even then - Their Test careers too never took off and I believe both of them were shortchanged in this format.

They are in ODI matter of things because they've been groomed by Dhoni for long in this arena and also they've legitimately performed and earned a name for them in this format so Kohli doesn't have the right to kick them out.

Yes - we might think A Rohit or A Dhawan was kicked out because they weren't performing and that our "selectors" were "progressive".

No.

First of all - do you even think that The likes of Gagan Khoda , MSK Prasad and what was the other guy's name? Can legitimately question Dhoni's one day captaincy in Asia Cup, keep Pant as a backup and kick Dhoni out from Captaincy?

Hypothetically yes.

But in reality, these guys don't have any teal power of worth and are punching bags used to absorb the heat on behalf of CoA (Vinod Rai/Diana Edulji) who are hell bent on fighting with the old guard, which includes Dhoni.

The team management AFAIK is run by Kohli, Shastri ,Anushka and his brother.

 

I think these Asia Cup changed everything.

Rohit and Dhawan fell out of favour - now they're trying to drop Dhoni

Among the 4 I named , I'm discounting Shastri as a 2 faced cunt anyways plus I believe he'll play for Rohit because of Mumbai Lobby unity.

 

All these selectors doing this and that against Dhoni is Anushka and Kohli showing their displeasure of Dhoni siding with Rohit in the Mahabattle .

 

Now - Kohli's place itself is in danger.

Partly because of the same regime Change- they won't keep CoA's stooge like Kohli for long in their game.

 

I heard this Rohit vs Kohli game arose partially because of the results of this faction war in BCCI boardrooms.

Dhoni is Dhoni for who he is - that's why he's still in Team despite his time being up itself after Srini Mamu got fired.

He enjoys an immense fanbase in the dressing rooms which will go lengths to support him unlike Sourav who was deserted by his friends.

There is a reason after all this, Kohli too was trying to get Dhoni on his side - he KNEW only Dhoni can save his kursi .

Unfortunately Rohit became Arjun and roped in Krishna Dhoni right before Duryodhan Kohli.

Or he was Team Anti-Kohli right from the beginning.

And given the way Kohli is supposedly involved with his ouster from captaincy, I'm sure this is the case because Dhoni never forgives the ones who challenge him.

Pant too will suffer just because he's a pawn against Dhoni even if he's not really involved in this ****( I don't think a junior player like him has the guts to go against the Biggest Mafia).

 

And if Kohli Thinks Shastri will save him, then he can go and eat his own Shite because Kohli lost Mumbai Lobby support

The moment Rohit wasn't taken in the Test Squad in England Tour.

And why they'll even NOT try to go All the way to make their Blue Eyed Bwoy Rohit the Biggest Boss ?

Shardul Thakur and Prithvi Shaw be damned - the real deal is Rohit Sharma

 

I think among these new kids, only Prithvi Shaw is a threat for Kohli because of Mumbai connection and perceived Sachin resemblance.

 

 

 

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Eyi eto lomba kothai theke lkhe nish...
Orey baba
But,yes you have said the unsaid:congrats:


Hahaha Bodo hoye gelo bhishon... Sorry for that but this is what I heard from people associated with sports management

This Pant part is obviously my assumption -could be or couldn't be true but I have heard similar things About Dhoni and Kohli in 2015-16
Didn't believe first because I was naive lol but the events took place just like that

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4 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:


 

 


Hahaha Bodo hoye gelo bhishon... Sorry for that but this is what I heard from people associated with sports management

This Pant part is obviously my assumption -could be or couldn't be true but I have heard similar things About Dhoni and Kohli in 2015-16
Didn't believe first because I was naive lol but the events took place just like that

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Yes it is actually happening within the circuit.

I trust,it has become more of a saas bahu daily soap,lots of conspiracy theories,it is is possible and still in progress

But yes i think Rohit is not going anywhere,he's been  looked as potential alt to Kohli plus a huge Mumbai backing plus his recent strong will suggests he isnt going anywhere but the case with Dhawan is little pernickety,the recent Anushka episode has turned things against him 

Rohit had openly criticized Anushka's presence at the High Commission dinner in London,if you remember

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11 hours ago, rkt.india said:

inconsistent. Look at the IPL. Pant batted at 4 mostly and made a huge impact. Kishan was given a chance at 3 and he blew it.  he has played some unbelievable knocks but he has struggled against quality bowling while Pant has thrashed every bowler on his day.

I remember is super human knocks. India red vs blue cant clearly remember the game. It was riddiculous.

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Yes it is actually happening within the circuit.
I trust,it has become more of a saas bahu daily soap,lots of conspiracy theories,it is is possible and still in progress
But yes i think Rohit is not going anywhere,he's been  looked as potential alt to Kohli plus a huge Mumbai backing plus his recent strong will suggests he isnt going anywhere but the case with Dhawan is little pernickety,the recent Anushka episode has turned things against him 
Rohit had openly criticized Anushka's presence at the High Commission dinner in London,if you remember


Lol Dhawan is Rohit now.
Lmaooo they are all together.
Shastri plays both ways and pays lip service to both the teams and both teams pretend everything is right in front but do stuff behind the back.

Rohit and Ritika always low keyed hated Anushka I guess.
Not only Mumbai Lobby , he has the friggin' backing Nita and Mukesh Ambani!!!
Vijay Mallya is a literal nobody nowadays!!
Also Kohli can't save his life by not winning a Pajama league whereas Rohit has won it 3 times!!
News is he'll win it next year too.

Dhoni ends the career of anybody who dares to challenge him.
He has finished more careers than he finished matches.
Kohli helped to kick Dhoni out - and now he's on his way out.

Since I've heard similar stuff before , all this Next MSD and 777 jersey seems like another way to reap the Thalaiva craze.
Unfortunately it will result in sabotization of his career if Dhoni gets his way.

I've seen this selector drama previously also where Dhoni used selectors to sound players he disliked.
Kohli/Anushka too is same.

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Lol Dhawan is Rohit now.
Lmaooo they are all together.
Shastri plays both ways and pays lip service to both the teams and both teams pretend everything is right in front but do stuff behind the back.

Rohit and Ritika always low keyed hated Anushka I guess.
Not only Mumbai Lobby , he has the friggin' backing Nita and Mukesh Ambani!!!
Vijay Mallya is a literal nobody nowadays!!
Also Kohli can't save his life by not winning a Pajama league whereas Rohit has won it 3 times!!
News is he'll win it next year too.

Dhoni ends the career of anybody who dares to challenge him.
He has finished more careers than he finished matches.
Kohli helped to kick Dhoni out - and now he's on his way out.

Since I've heard similar stuff before , all this Next MSD and 777 jersey seems like another way to reap the Thalaiva craze.
Unfortunately it will result in sabotization of his career if Dhoni gets his way.

I've seen this selector drama previously also where Dhoni used selectors to sound players he disliked.
Kohli/Anushka too is same.

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Dhoni has finished more careers than he finished matches:laugh:

 

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Hey thanks for supporting me!!!
I'll say the part of Pant is my imagination but I've heard similar stuff about Kohli being Used as Pawn against Dhoni earlier and The situation is going in the same direction
 
Whenever there is a change in Power in BCCI - they fire the old captain and get a new one.
And eventually soft force that guy out of team.
Only Dhoni was allowed in the team so long because he had his teammates beside him, supporting him unconditionally and whoever running BCCI circa CoA takeover is being forced to persist with him because of the marketing appeal and lack of suitable alternatives.
In that way, I can understand the desperation of CoA/Kohli/"Selectors" to suddenly grow concerned of Dhoni's form and keep Pant on
I know Dhoni is redundant now but selections are not AT ALL meritocratic.
Especially when the guy considered is the Juggernaut of Indian Cricket - worshipped by Millions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni.
 
There is clearly an effort to make people think that Pant is the better alternative and I personally believe if the CoA(whoever is selecting the team) got their way - they would drop Dhoni and take Pant instead.
 
What I get - a KLR, A Hardik, A Pant, is not going to be King (kong) Kohli's threat to popularity.
They'll always be a minion to his gigantic image.
A Pujara or Rahane or An Ashwin were his contemporaries - and the way Rohit is a legitimate threat to Kohli's market in 2 weeks ,I realise Soft spoken quiet Cricketers are likely to get more popularity in the market than a Loud , bratty one like Virat.
 
Dhawan was this funny nachaniya and Rohit the fat double century hitter but they were never the legitimate threats to Kohli's throne.
 
Even then - Their Test careers too never took off and I believe both of them were shortchanged in this format.
They are in ODI matter of things because they've been groomed by Dhoni for long in this arena and also they've legitimately performed and earned a name for them in this format so Kohli doesn't have the right to kick them out.
Yes - we might think A Rohit or A Dhawan was kicked out because they weren't performing and that our "selectors" were "progressive".
No.
First of all - do you even think that The likes of Gagan Khoda , MSK Prasad and what was the other guy's name? Can legitimately question Dhoni's one day captaincy in Asia Cup, keep Pant as a backup and kick Dhoni out from Captaincy?
Hypothetically yes.
But in reality, these guys don't have any teal power of worth and are punching bags used to absorb the heat on behalf of CoA (Vinod Rai/Diana Edulji) who are hell bent on fighting with the old guard, which includes Dhoni.
The team management AFAIK is run by Kohli, Shastri ,Anushka and his brother.
 
I think these Asia Cup changed everything.
Rohit and Dhawan fell out of favour - now they're trying to drop Dhoni
Among the 4 I named , I'm discounting Shastri as a 2 faced cunt anyways plus I believe he'll play for Rohit because of Mumbai Lobby unity.
 
All these selectors doing this and that against Dhoni is Anushka and Kohli showing their displeasure of Dhoni siding with Rohit in the Mahabattle .
 
Now - Kohli's place itself is in danger.
Partly because of the same regime Change- they won't keep CoA's stooge like Kohli for long in their game.
 
I heard this Rohit vs Kohli game arose partially because of the results of this faction war in BCCI boardrooms.
Dhoni is Dhoni for who he is - that's why he's still in Team despite his time being up itself after Srini Mamu got fired.
He enjoys an immense fanbase in the dressing rooms which will go lengths to support him unlike Sourav who was deserted by his friends.
There is a reason after all this, Kohli too was trying to get Dhoni on his side - he KNEW only Dhoni can save his kursi .
Unfortunately Rohit became Arjun and roped in Krishna Dhoni right before Duryodhan Kohli.
Or he was Team Anti-Kohli right from the beginning.
And given the way Kohli is supposedly involved with his ouster from captaincy, I'm sure this is the case because Dhoni never forgives the ones who challenge him.
Pant too will suffer just because he's a pawn against Dhoni even if he's not really involved in this ****( I don't think a junior player like him has the guts to go against the Biggest Mafia).
 
And if Kohli Thinks Shastri will save him, then he can go and eat his own Shite because Kohli lost Mumbai Lobby support
The moment Rohit wasn't taken in the Test Squad in England Tour.
And why they'll even NOT try to go All the way to make their Blue Eyed Bwoy Rohit the Biggest Boss ?
Shardul Thakur and Prithvi Shaw be damned - the real deal is Rohit Sharma
 
I think among these new kids, only Prithvi Shaw is a threat for Kohli because of Mumbai connection and perceived Sachin resemblance.
 
 
 
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