Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Strengthen the team and cover all bases. Keep run scoring tight and hav a deeper batting order. After that, it's all about application. My lineup would be: Shaw Pujara Rahane Kohli Vihari Pant Jaddu Ash Ishant Shami Bumrah 6 bowling options. Batting till 8. Melbourne is likely to be flat so this will probably be our best bet. I would love Bhuvi but can't drop any pacers plus 2 spinners are a must for the last 2 tests (Melbourne and Sydney). We are the only nation which doesn't back our strengths. Our spinners strengthen both our batting and boxing while giving immense control. I picked a similar side (except for Pandya instead of Jaddu). Not sure about picking 2 finger spinners in Australia but Melbourne and Sydney might just be the only venues where they can flourish relatively. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, sensible-indian said: Hardik sucks man. Neither a reliable bat or a bowler. He has his uses but he screws up the team balance imho. reliable ??? who is reliable Pujara still has 1-2 good knocks most overseas tour ..... Rahane is still not getting over 50s are our openers reliable or our keeper batsman IS shami reliable ?? OR ashwin or jadeja reliable with bat n ball ?? He actually gives u balance or else we are making vijay n vihari bowl in overseas condition and those are spinner, Surely vihari bowling had given u wkts but thats just 2 test Link to comment
shortbread Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, sensible-indian said: Hardik sucks man. Neither a reliable bat or a bowler. He has his uses but he screws up the team balance imho. Imitation Gary-Sobers lovers dont care, tehir theory goes like this, he scored more than the worst performing batsman in the said game and bowl as well! If questioned why he has'nt bowled well, then the reply comes, but he can bat as well. A conundrum!. Bhuvi or Jadeja will have more impact as all rounders. The only thing Pandya has is pointless swagger! sensible-indian 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: We have to win the next two matches. Making pujara open is too much risk. So is vihari n actually more 6 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: Keeping in with the tradition of team mgmt. announcing injuries to players they want to drop, I wouldn't rally mind if Mayank Agarwal and shubhman Gill are flown into Australia claiming injuries for Vijay and klr. But leave pujara alone no.3 - is my final say. yea please fly down mayank Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: reliable ??? who is reliable Pujara still has 1-2 good knocks most overseas tour ..... Rahane is still not getting over 50s are our openers reliable or our keeper batsman IS shami reliable ?? OR ashwin or jadeja reliable with bat n ball ?? He actually gives u balance or else we are making vijay n vihari bowl in overseas condition and those are spinner, Surely vihari bowling had given u wkts but thats just 2 test Nah man. He only gives balance on paper. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: I picked a similar side (except for Pandya instead of Jaddu). Not sure about picking 2 finger spinners in Australia but Melbourne and Sydney might just be the only venues where they can flourish relatively. Had we picked 2 spinners, we would hav won in Centurion, Edgbaston and Southampton this year. 6 wins instead of 3. Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, shortbread said: Imitation Gary-Sobers lovers dont care, tehir theory goes like this, he scored more than the worst performing batsman in the said game and bowl as well! If questioned why he has'nt bowled well, then the reply comes, but he can bat as well. N how have pamdya not bowled well, he hanst got much of bowling took a fifer a test before check the score card was our best bowler in 2nd test to took both openers out in SA in 1st test when partnership was on he does his job when given the ball most days, everyday no one does Just now, shortbread said: A conundrum!. Bhuvi or Jadeja will have more impact as all rounders. Jadeja has done nothing more then pandya overseas....pretty similar stats they ll have Bhuvi is a bowler, u give more responsibility to bowler n make them bat up they wnt do that well ....Bhuvi is also far more experinced so he game with both bat n bowl has evolved more Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said: Even if we had RSD capable enough to open for us with VVS at no. 3 we were always on the lookout for another replacement opener to bring RSD back to 3 and VVS back to 5. Reason is we want to give RSD-SRT-VVS the maximum opportunity to score centuries when the swing is blunted. That's why I find it uncomfortable to make pujara open. I would rather throw a pawn to the wolves rather than our bishop. Well Dravid still ended up opening at times though . Even as late as England 2011. If we're sending in a bali ka bakra, I'd rather send in someone like Ashwin instead of Vihari. It would be unfair to Vihari who could fail and then be dropped based on his failures as an opener. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Had we picked 2 spinners, we would hav won in Centurion, Edgbaston and Southampton this year. 6 wins instead of 3. easy to say now i dnt knw how many times any captain wud play 2 spinners in SA how wud have 2 spinners worked in 4th n 5th test when ashwin was injured and kuldeep was struggling to grip duke ball. He was smacked in 2nd test and dnt blamce pitch coz he was bowling full tosses......the reason was gripping duke ball coz its diff then SG n kookabura which he plays mostly with . Kuldeep was a disastor in england and now tha practical reasons kuldeep was send back home by then no captain wud have dropped hardik after 3rd test Edited December 17, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Lannister Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Well the guy u played in 1st test in place of did nothing Yes, we almost lost that match because of Sharma but it doesn't mean we need Pandya lol.. There was Vihari in the squad who is miles better than these two hacks. 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Week player dnt win u games Quote It depends on the available pool of players. If there are better players than him, then why do you want to compromise your winning chance? So far Pandya hasn't shown he can put in consistent performance. 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: but u hypocrite u will point a guy who performed more then rahul for loosing us, how is that he is an opener and not scoring any runs doesnt make him responsible How does selecting Pandya inplace of Rahul will help the team balance? you are just talking sh!t. Learn the difference between the formats first. Why do you think Australia has dropped Mitch Marsh and opted for 6 batsmen? Link to comment
shortbread Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: N how have pamdya not bowled well, he hanst got much of bowling took a fifer a test before check the score card was our best bowler in 2nd test to took both openers out in SA in 1st test when partnership was on One off performances cannot cement his position in the team. He proved to be a liability and was eventually dropped in the England series. It would be amazing if He was a capable all-rounder but he is simply not one! His medium pace will have ZERO impact in Australia. He wont survive as a batsman as well, his batting in England has been diabolical! Jadeja is equally useless with the bat but can be a canny bowler, especially bowling long miserly spells! Plus he's Indian's best fielder by far, Kohli second and there's daylight between the rest in that department. Bhuvi is capable in hanging around with another batsman and is a much better bet as a bowler vis a vis Yadav. Pandya has'nt gorown as a palyer to deserve a slot in this test team. In fact he will not walk into any test playing XI apart from Bangladesh of Afghanistan maybe! The only reason he is playing is because Kohli keeps picking his for some reason and Shastri is busy eating and sleeping! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: easy to say now i dnt knw how many times any captain wud play 2 spinners in SA how wud have 2 spinners worked in 4th n 5th test when ashwin was injured and kuldeep was struggling to grip duke ball. He was smacked in 2nd test and dnt blamce pitch coz he was bowling full tosses......the reason was gripping duke ball coz its diff then SG n kookabura which he plays mostly with . Kuldeep was a disastor in england and now tha practical reasons kuldeep was send back home by then no captain wud have dropped hardik after 3rd test I had been asking for 2 spinners even before our overseas tours started. Kuldeep is risky. I said Ashwin and Jaddu. Edited December 17, 2018 by sensible-indian Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, sensible-indian said: I have been asking for 2 spinners even before our overseas tours started. Kuldeep is risky. I said Ashwin and Jaddu. 2 overseas spinners makes no sense , Opp are giving spicy wkts for fast bowling ashwin n jaddu are no murali herath combo or warne mcgill , overseas both become defensive option and whats the need of 2 defensive bowlers. At home , in SL, In WI they are attacking option and one of them will always be underused Hardik is a better batsman of pace n bounce then jaddu Ashwin injury is starting become a concern now to hardik has won u a game with his bowling, plus he can be very handy on spicy wkts...its just that he gets the ball last n mostly 4 overs have done job till now Adi BB 1 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Well Dravid still ended up opening at times though . Even as late as England 2011. If we're sending in a bali ka bakra, I'd rather send in someone like Ashwin instead of Vihari. It would be unfair to Vihari who could fail and then be dropped based on his failures as an opener. No problem send Ashwin as the opener... Go on. But don't come near pujara.. :p stay away.. Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, shortbread said: One off performances cannot cement his position in the team. He proved to be a liability and was eventually dropped in the England series. It would be amazing if He was a capable all-rounder but he is simply not one! Hows is it one off HE did well in SL did well in Afghanistan Did well as batsman n bowler in 1s test SA Did well as bowler n batsman in england has done well 1 game which is what apart from kohli, bumrah, ishant are doing overseas 5 minutes ago, shortbread said: His medium pace will have ZERO impact in Australia. He wont survive as a batsman as well, his batting in England has been diabolical! 140k is no medium pace, by that logic he shudnt take wkts in India and he was MOM for his bowling on his ODI debut Batting was bad by everyone apart from kohli 5 minutes ago, shortbread said: Jadeja is equally useless with the bat but can be a canny bowler, especially bowling long miserly spells! Plus he's Indian's best fielder by far, Kohli second and there's daylight between the rest in that department. Bhuvi is capable in hanging around with another batsman and is a much better bet as a bowler vis a vis Yadav. So jadeja shud play as spinner jadeja n pandya in fielding is very close so bhuvi is better then umesh play him as a bowler 5 minutes ago, shortbread said: Pandya has'nt gorown as a palyer to deserve a slot in this test team. In fact he will not walk into any test playing XI apart from Bangladesh of Afghanistan maybe! The only reason he is playing is because Kohli keeps picking his for some reason and Shastri is busy eating and sleeping! who has owned a place at 6, i dnt knw Isnt colin De grandhomme walking in NZ XI an Mitch marsh have played so many test for Aus only reason u think hussey, Ian chappell, sanga, saourav, sachin, klusner, pollock , wasim , ponting mad who advocates his case Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Lannister said: Yes, we almost lost that match because of Sharma but it doesn't mean we need Pandya lol.. There was Vihari in the squad who is miles better than these two hacks. It depends on the available pool of players. If there are better players than him, then why do you want to compromise your winning chance? So far Pandya hasn't shown he can put in consistent performance. Consistency is problem of half the team Quote How does selecting Pandya inplace of Rahul will help the team balance? you are just talking sh!t. Learn the difference between the formats first. Why do you think Australia has dropped Mitch Marsh and opted for 6 batsmen? did i say select pandya in place of Rahul Are u blind ??? m asking who ru blaming a guy for loosing u 2 tours when he performed 3-4 times then a guy who just performed once Isnt travis head in better form then mitch marsh thats why ??? Till now vihari hasnt gone ahead of pandya Ooooo format diff 93 in SA 100 in SL 5 wkts in nottingham 3 wkts in lords all have come in test cricket , apna karnataka cricket ka chashma utar aur dekh Edited December 17, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 shows how important he is to give balance He could have played instead of Umesh, bowled pretty similar bur makes batting much stronger as say Pant can go 8 or Hardik 8. If add spinner all rounder like Jadeja/Ashwin batting gets even stronger UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
shortbread Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Hows is it one off Did well as batsman n bowler in 1s test SA Did well as bowler n batsman in england He performed well in one innings, and then poorly in every other, hence DROPPED from the test side in England! 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: has done well 1 game which is what apart from kohli, bumrah, ishant are doing overseas Stop using the excuse they did poorly so it's fine if he perform's poor as well! That is STUPID logic 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 140k is no medium pace, by that logic he shudnt take wkts in India and he was MOM for his bowling on his ODI debut He's medium pace in Australia! No question about that! Has no support of seam movement like in England and will be taken apart. Same way he was by English batsmen 9 times out of 10! 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Batting was bad by everyone apart from kohli Again stop using the excuse others batted poorly so Pandy should get a free ride! He cant bat, cant bowl! 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So jadeja shud play as spinner jadeja n pandya in fielding is very close No it is not. If you watch cricket on a television than fantasise about it Jadeja is one of the world's best fielders, Panya isn't even close. Heck Pandya isn't even close to Kohli as a fielder! 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: who has owned a place at 6, i dnt knw Pandya definitely hasn't! 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Isnt colin De grandhomme walking in NZ XI an Mitch marsh have played so many test for Aus Both are better than Pandya hence. They are nowehere as capable as he is on social media, or in applying make up, or in posing for his own pics, or in kissing animals! But as cricketers they are better than Pandya! 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: only reason u think hussey, Ian chappell, sanga, saourav, sachin, klusner, pollock , wasim , ponting mad who advocates his case They sing praises when it suits them! They would also say the opposite when it suits them. If the world listened to what Ganguly has to say, Dinda would walk into thsi team everytime! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
shortbread Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 @ Ankit_Sharma Sorry, don't want to come off as offensive! But Pandya riles me up. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, shortbread said: He performed well in one innings, and then poorly in every other, hence DROPPED from the test side in England! i showed u 3-4 how are u reading it as one u dnt count bowling ??? He was dropped due to pressure which made even rohit play 1st test Quote Stop using the excuse they did poorly so it's fine if he perform's poor as well! That is STUPID logic No that not excuse Thats to show how tough conditions and only an exception like kohli is doing well Quote He's medium pace in Australia! No question about that! Has no support of seam movement like in England and will be taken apart. Same way he was by English batsmen 9 times out of 10! 140k is medium pace He has very good outswing and he gets movement from seam as well, have u seen him or binny by england batsman ?? when ? he bowled well in 2nd n 3 test Also wrong in england more then seam movement u get late swing which is a lot due to weather n duke balls and ability Quote Again stop using the excuse others batted poorly so Pandy should get a free ride! He cant bat, cant bowl! Already explained above , these are highly tough conditions Quote No it is not. If you watch cricket on a television than fantasise about it Jadeja is one of the world's best fielders, Panya isn't even close. Heck Pandya isn't even close to Kohli as a fielder! Pandya definitely hasn't! Pandya is a better fielder then kohli n as good as jadeja, when have u seen him drop catches or misfield Kohli drops like anything n if u remeber jadeja dropped cook at lords in 2014 and it was a downhill tour post that Quote They are nowehere as capable as he is on social media, or in applying make up, or in posing for his own pics, or in kissing animals! But as cricketers they are better than Pandya! They sing praises when it suits them! They would also say the opposite when it suits them. Thats ur problem his life on social media , how does that matter DO u work for Missmalini Quote If the world listened to what Ganguly has to say, Dinda would walk into thsi team everytime! Well it isnt only ganguly and ganguly did also say many right thing, u dnt even pandya pace to even comment on ganguly Edited December 17, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
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