IPL ... Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners ....

[tapandrun]

On 5/16/2026 at 6:54 AM, express bowling said:

Will Gurnoor Brar get to play today as per BCCI request  ?

This is totally a table top-story, why would bcci need to tell GT. Gill is Ind and GT captain he would know who they are picking for next series.

[tapandrun]

Both Myank and Mishara bowled well, this is the issue here with IPL/t20 ow there are multiple batters who can score 20+ runs in any over. 

 

One can bowl 2 or even 3 good overs but batters can target 20 runs in 4th over as well.

 

So if some is 24 in 3 over and 4th over goes for 20 or more its already 44 in 4 over , so from 8 eco to 11.

Edited May 19 by tapandrun

[Texan]

Mayank once again bowled his first 2 overs well with good pace and got hammered in the next 2.

 

2-0-12-0 today. In his first match, he had 2-0-15-0. Both times, his final figures were 50 runs conceded and no wickets.

 

I think batsmen are finding his line and length too predictable after the initial few overs and are able to guess the line and length to launch their shots. He needs to take a leaf out of Mohsin's book I believe who varies his pace quite a bit. There is not just a fast ball and a slow ball, but he also bowls at many paces in between. What would also help is if he can deviate the ball a little. And for Vaibhav, he could have tried going around the wicket to change the angle. Mohsin's natural angle into Vaibhav tucked him up and he was not able to score runs off Mohsin.

 

Batsmen also have realized that as soon as Mayank is hit off the front foot, the next ball will be a bouncer and they are ready for it. He has to learn to bowl a bit unpreditable and play on the mind of the batsmen. It will help if he is given the new ball as he will be able to extract good bounce from it. 

 

It is tough to bowl express pace on Indian wickets where the bounce is less and grounds are small. Taking no wickets and conceding 50 runs in 3 out of 4 matches will not give him any confidence. This is where team management has a big role to play to encourage him and keep him in the team and advise him on how to approach the next two over better. 

Edited May 19 by Texan

[AKane]

4 hours ago, Texan said:

Mayank once again bowled his first 2 overs well with good pace and got hammered in the next 2.

 

2-0-12-0 today. In his first match, he had 2-0-15-0. Both times, his final figures were 50 runs conceded and no wickets.

 

I think batsmen are finding his line and length too predictable after the initial few overs and are able to guess the line and length to launch their shots. He needs to take a leaf out of Mohsin's book I believe who varies his pace quite a bit.

I actually think the slower deliveries are messing his rhythm.

 

Bowl fast and hard at the ribs of Indian batsmen. Mix in yorkers. Mayank can just bowl between 148 and 155 kmph and to heck with the sissy slow balls.

[express bowling]

Tyagi has bowled wonderfully so far.

 

Pace, bounce, accuracy, movement.

 

Got the wicket of Tilak Verma due to extra pace and bounce.

 

1 for 9 from 2 overs so far.

 

 

[express bowling]

Expensive last over by Tyagi 

 

[tapandrun]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Expensive last over by Tyagi 

 

Posted about it, not just tyagi bt for every bowler a 20 or more runs overs is never far as there are multiple batters capable of doing it, eco of 8 can increase to 11 in just one over.

 

Newer bowlers have to learn the defensive skills this is must now else they will hardly have a good game.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Tyagi has bowled wonderfully so far.

 

Pace, bounce, accuracy, movement.

 

Got the wicket of Tilak Verma due to extra pace and bounce.

 

1 for 9 from 2 overs so far.

 

 

Fastest ball?

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Fastest ball?

 

 

145.8 kph

 

Most balls around 142 / 143 k

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Posted about it, not just tyagi bt for every bowler a 20 or more runs overs is never far as there are multiple batters capable of doing it, eco of 8 can increase to 11 in just one over.

 

Newer bowlers have to learn the defensive skills this is must now else they will hardly have a good game.

 

 

Too few yorkers at the end by many younger pacers.

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Too few yorkers at the end by many younger pacers.

In Tyagi's case, maybe he is not very confident of exceuting yorkers right now with this new action.
Have to seen him more post IPL.

[express bowling]

18 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

In Tyagi's case, maybe he is not very confident of exceuting yorkers right now with this new action.
Have to seen him more post IPL.

 

Many of the young. quick Indian pacers are not practicing bowling yorkers enough. 

 

They are trying too many things instead of mastering a few things. 

[tapandrun]

Cricket specially IPL/t20 is at the same juncture where it was when ipl and t20 started to get going , new format the closest format was Odis and common understanding and norm was bowling with eco under 5-6 and if some1 was going 7-8 was a bad bowler for having a v.v.bad day.

 

As understanding developed regarding the t20 game 7-8.5 eco was acceptable , it would be gold standard now , but default now is ~10 rpo, 

 

Bowlers now have to learn new defensive bowling tricks, previously it was about starting a good over and finishing a good over but nt batters are hitting 1st ball for 6s and they continue to hit. Bowler has to be lucky to bowl vs kolhi kind of batter who will not hit multiple 6s but after a 6 will tap it to 1/2s and then other batter will also take ateast 1 more ball so set-up the sight, so 6-8 runs in 3 balls not bad for now that is not the case.

[MK55]

This has been the most dumbest ipl so far. Not much for the fast bowlers. And the worst part is that it has been proven once again that it is without doubt the most important tournament career wise to get selected in the national side regardless of the format. The system is entirely broken.

 

I don’t even feel like watching this joke of a tournament - since multiple weeks actually. 

 

Anyways which important domestic tournaments r coming up? 
I think Tyagi, Ashok should get more opportunities to bang that door open.

Edited May 21 by MK55

[Malcolm Merlyn]

On 5/20/2026 at 1:49 AM, tapandrun said:

Gill is gt and Ind captain, he would know who he is picking for upcoming Ind series.

Gill is a light weight doesn’t have the aura to push things 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, MK55 said:

This has been the most dumbest ipl so far. Not much for the fast bowlers. And the worst part is that it has been proven once again that it is without doubt the most important tournament career wise to get selected in the national side regardless of the format. The system is entirely broken.

 

I don’t even feel like watching this joke of a tournament - since multiple weeks actually. 

 

Anyways which important domestic tournaments r coming up? 
I think Tyagi, Ashok should get more opportunities to bang that door open.

Duleep Triphy will start from Aug 23.

Then Irani Trophy, Ranji phase 1 from Oct mid...then in late Nov Dec VHT & SMAT...and again from Jan Ranji phase 2

[MK55]

So GT has got 34 year old Kulwant Kejroliya in the super sub list but not Ashoka Sharma.

 

WTF is wrong with this moron Nehra???

Edited May 21 by MK55

[tapandrun]

4 hours ago, MK55 said:

This has been the most dumbest ipl so far. Not much for the fast bowlers. And the worst part is that it has been proven once again that it is without doubt the most important tournament career wise to get selected in the national side regardless of the format. The system is entirely broken.

 

I don’t even feel like watching this joke of a tournament - since multiple weeks actually. 

 

Anyways which important domestic tournaments r coming up? 
I think Tyagi, Ashok should get more opportunities to bang that door open.

This has been like this all the times, its just now there are  3-4 145+ kmph bowlers who are on the benches and not getting constant chances in the side.

 

The thing is every side is looking to cut down that extra 5-10 runs and they find these high pace bowlers are giving those extra runs on constant basis. Every1 has bad game in IPL but trundlers have less bad days, this is how teams look at it. And if they find some helping track than these trundlers can use cutters and other variations to take wkts too.

 

Harshal/Mohit/bhuvi are good example of that how many Ind faster bowler apart from that 1 odd season by umran had good ipl season. 

Then there are bravo/Tye

Edited May 21 by tapandrun

[MK55]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

This has been like this all the times, its just now there are  3-4 145+ kmph bowlers who are on the benches and not getting constant chances in the side.

 

The thing is every side is looking to cut down that extra 5-10 runs and they find these high pace bowlers are giving those extra runs on constant basis. Every1 has bad game in IPL but trundlers have less bad days, this is how teams look at it. And if they find some helping track than these trundlers can use cutters and other variations to take wkts too.

These are all excuses and Ashok wasn’t bad in the limited chances he got. In most of those matches even Rabada n Prasidh went for runs.

 

It’s common sense to prefer Ashok over guys like Kejroliya. There’s no need to complicate something so obvious 

[pramodk]

19 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Many of the young. quick Indian pacers are not practicing bowling yorkers enough. 

 

They are trying too many things instead of mastering a few things. 

Very true, you master one thing, then try another ... a generalist should be only used as a captain or a General ;-)