Vaccine theory

[Real McCoy]

https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/global-study-quantifies-rise-in-blood-clots-heart-inflammation-following-covid-19-vaccination/article67867735.ece

 

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One of the largest assessments of its kind, spanning 99 million people and investigating reports of adverse reactions following COVID-19 vaccination, found that instances of Guillain Barre Syndrome, myocarditis, pericarditis and cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) were at least 1.5 times more than expected following inoculation with mRNA and ChadOX1 vaccines. This is in line with previous observations by the World Health Organization and the European Medicines Agency, and was what led to these being classified as ‘rare’ side effects following the vaccination for COVID-19.

 

It says 1.5 but just like the inflation percentage, it is trimmed down so that its palatable to the reader

[Real McCoy]

On 10/13/2022 at 10:14 AM, ravishingravi said:

 

 

 

The newsreel still finishes with "benefis outweigh any risks"

Risks include Heart inflammations, kidney inflammation and disorder with heavy protein loss in urine but still there are benefits? wow

[Real McCoy]

That is just the mRNA vaccine. other vaccines include blood clots, heart attacks, stroke and god knows what. Don't know why the "expert" who swaggered here with a condescending tone with his statistics is absent in this thread and moved to a new biotechnology. I have proof directly from the horse's mouth this time. They always release it after the damage is done.

[ravishingravi]

7 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

That is just the mRNA vaccine. other vaccines include blood clots, heart attacks, stroke and god knows what. Don't know why the "expert" who swaggered here with a condescending tone with his statistics is absent in this thread and moved to a new biotechnology. I have proof directly from the horse's mouth this time. They always release it after the damage is done.

 

Modern brains number "scientific" authorities. 

[Real McCoy]

1 minute ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Modern brains number "scientific" authorities. 

That means modern brain is not scientific at all. The very essence of science is to question everything (especially the media) not become a cult in itself. Even scientists and doctors who went against the vaccine rollout were mocked and shunned by these so called ScIEntISts in a orwellian thoughtcrime world.

And what names these ScIeNTisTS called people like me a couple of years ago - Anti-vaxxer,  conspiracy theorist, luddite

[BacktoCricaddict]

13 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Modern brains number "scientific" authorities. 

 

Am really glad they are doing these "Phase IV" post-market analyses and showing that the CoViD-19 vaccines are indeed much safer than CoViD-19 infections themselves. It is important that, after approvals following clinical trials with 60000 - 100000 volunteers, we don't ignore analyzing possible side effects that show up in 1 out of 50 million people and may have been missed by trials with 60000 - 100000 people.

 

One may argue all they want about the mandates, and there are valid arguments that the mandates were unnecessary. One may argue about origins of the virus (and I lean towards the lab-leak hypothesis). But there is argument about the fact that 10s of millions of lives saved by the CoViD-19 vaccines.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/study-largely-confirms-known-rare-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/

 

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Study Largely Confirms Known, Rare COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects

By Kate Yandell

Posted on February 27, 2024

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COVID-19 vaccines — like all vaccines and other medical products — come with side effects, including serious side effects in rare cases. The vaccines were rolled out to protect people from a novel virus that has killed millions of people globally and would likely have killed millions more without the arrival of the vaccines. There is a broad consensus from experts and governmental health agencies that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the risks.\

 

Researchers have scrutinized the COVID-19 vaccines’ safety and continue to do so. A study published Feb. 12 in the journal Vaccine reported on an international group of more than 99 million people who received COVID-19 vaccines, primarily finding links to known rare side effects. The study largely focused on the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which have been widely given in the U.S., as well as the AstraZeneca vaccine, which was never authorized in the U.S.

 

“What we take away, is that the Covid-19 vaccination campaigns have been very effective in preventing severe disease,” study co-author Anders Hviid, head of the department of epidemiology research at the Statens Serum Institut in Denmark, told us in an email. “The few serious side effects that we have observed in this and other studies have been rare.”

 

Many popular posts on social media have shared results from the study, some lacking the context that the identified health problems are rare, that most aren’t new and that the vaccines have proven benefits. Various posts made unfounded claims, stating or implying that people should not have received the vaccines, that the risks outweigh the benefits or that the risk of the rare side effects is greater than was reported in the study.

 

“Hundreds of millions of people were used as lab rats and now the truth that WE ALL ALREADY KNEW can no longer be denied,” said one popular post, referring to the vaccines as “experimental” and “UNTESTED.” The post shared a screenshot of the headline of a New York Post article about the new study, which read, “COVID vaccines linked to slight increases in heart, brain, blood disorders: study.”

 

“This thing was forced on people who faced almost no risk from Covid,” said another widely read post. “It is completely unacceptable.” The post shared statistics from the paper without making it clear that serious health problems after vaccination were rare and that risk varied by vaccine type and dose.

 

The Vaccine study confirmed that the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines are linked in rare cases to myocarditis and pericarditis, conditions involving inflammation of the heart muscle and lining. The rate of myocarditis was most elevated after the second dose of the Moderna vaccine. Myocarditis risk — which is greatest in men in their late teens and early twenties — was identified via vaccine safety monitoring and first reported in 2021. Based on the current evidence, the CDC says, the benefit of vaccination outweighs the risk of these conditions, which improve for most people after medical treatment and rest.

 

The study confirmed neurological and blood clotting conditions associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In the U.S., these problems were linked to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, contributing to this vaccine no longer being recommended or available.

 

The study also identified a new possible safety signal indicating a potential link between the first dose of the Moderna and AstraZeneca vaccines and rare neurological conditions. This included an association between the first doses of the vaccines and acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, or ADEM, an autoimmune condition that causes inflammation of the brain and spinal cord.

 

Hviid emphasized that the researchers only saw these neurological events after first doses of the two vaccines. “We did not see these signals following further doses of these two Covid-19 vaccines, nor did we see them after any dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine which has been more widely used,” he said.

 

“We are also talking about very rare events,” Hviid continued. “As an example, the association between the first dose of Moderna and acute inflammation of the brain and spine would, if causal, correspond to 1 case per 1.75 million vaccinated. It is only due to the sheer scale of our study, that we have been able to identify this minute potential risk.”

Study Bolsters the Evidence Serious COVID-19 Vaccine Side Effects Are Rare

The Vaccine study drew on national or regional health records from eight countries with institutions participating in the Global Vaccine Data Network, an international group that studies vaccine safety. The researchers analyzed health outcomes after around 184 million doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, 36 million doses of the Moderna vaccine and 23 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine. 

 

The researchers focused on 13 health problems that either had a known association with vaccination or for which there was some rationale to investigate whether there was an association. To determine whether the health problems were associated with vaccination, they compared the expected rates of the health problems — or the number of health events that should occur based on background rates in the regions studied — with the number of events they observed in the 42 days after vaccination.

 

“This study confirms the primary already detected and validated side effects established by previous literature,” Jeffrey S. Morris, director of the division of biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine, told us via email, referring to the rare heart conditions associated with the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines, as well as the rare conditions associated with the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. 

Morris said that findings on ADEM — the rare autoimmune neurological condition linked to first doses of the Moderna and AstraZeneca vaccines — “might be a new safety signal.” 

 

ADEM involves inflammation to the brain and spinal cord, arising most often in children following an infectious illness. It has a sudden onset and typically eventually improves, with a full recovery in many, although not all, cases.

 

After the first dose of the Moderna vaccine, researchers observed seven ADEM cases, when they expected two. As we’ve said, Hviid calculated the rate of this side effect — if ultimately shown to be related to vaccination — to be 1 in 1.75 million following the first dose of the Moderna vaccine. 

 

The data show “this was indeed an EXTREMELY rare adverse event,” Morris said, referring to ADEM. “It is understandable at this incidence rate why it may not have been detected before now, and why a study with 99 million participants like this is important to find even the most rare serious adverse events that are potential minority harm risks of these vaccines.”

 

The authors of the study wrote that more research is needed into ADEM following COVID-19 vaccination, saying that “the number of cases of this rare event were small and the confidence interval wide, so results should be interpreted with caution and confirmed in future studies.” The authors also wrote that neurological events have been found to occur at a much higher rate after COVID-19 than after COVID-19 vaccination.

 

The study means that “early warning systems are solid,” said Marc Veldhoen, an immunologist at the Instituto de Medicina Molecular João Lobo Antunes in Portugal, in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “To avoid any adverse reaction is not possible, but, identifying those at higher risk may be possible.”

Identifying those at greater risk of side effects can help guide decisions on which vaccines to recommend and what problems doctors should watch for in their patients.

 

[Real McCoy]

6 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

Am really glad they are doing these "Phase IV" post-market analyses and showing that the CoViD-19 vaccines are indeed much safer than CoViD-19 infections themselves. It is important that, after approvals following clinical trials with 60000 - 100000 volunteers, we don't ignore analyzing possible side effects that show up in 1 out of 50 million people and may have been missed by trials with 60000 - 100000 people.

 

One may argue all they want about the mandates, and there are valid arguments that the mandates were unnecessary. One may argue about origins of the virus (and I lean towards the lab-leak hypothesis). But there is argument about the fact that 10s of millions of lives saved by the CoViD-19 vaccines.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/study-largely-confirms-known-rare-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/

 

 

 

How do you explain the newsreel which finishes with "benefis outweigh any risks" when the risks include Heart inflammations, kidney inflammation and disorder with heavy protein loss in urine but still there are benefits?

Where did you find that number 60000 - 100000 volunteers. It was not founded in that article. Did you pull that from your rear end?

I'm gonna do a post on "fact checkers" too. Look out for that.

[Real McCoy]

Not saying hydroxychloroquine is the cure all as this documentary says it is. For what its worth, its still a chemical made in the lab and the gin and tonic "speciality" of the Brits is dodgy. But its surely can't be as bad as an untested vaccine that was rolled out and mandated that everyone has to take it to move around. Smackdown on the vaccines is on. This maybe a red herring from the globalist scumbags themselves as most people now know the whole vaccine rollout was a scam. Could be a damage control piece from them.

 

This documentary even calls the vaccines as DNA altering or something that Gates has invested in. The whole CRISPR gene modification that some "expert" here posted a while ago comes into the picture. Couple of years ago, this guy was backing the vaccines now this technology. All backed up by rich people who want to control you. Even the normies are beginning to see the vaccines as a scam. Think carefully about CRISPR. Maybe we have an agent in out midst

 

 

[Real McCoy]

This doctor claims that additional DNA was put into the vaccine deliberately in addition to the spike proteins that are created in the mRNA vaccines. He also says an unvaccinated person can get these spike proteins from a vaccinated person but the damage may be limited. Its the exact opposite of what was claimed in the main stream media. Can an unvaccinated person lay claim of injury by vaccinated people like how the reverse was done during covid - the feeling of distrust, calling names like anti-vaccer, conspiracy theorists and what not.

 

 

[Real McCoy]

Germany's freedom of information act has put another nail in the coffin

 

 

[Real McCoy]

Vaccine delivery through indirect means

 

 

 

[Real McCoy]

Rishi Sunak beign hounded by a scottish man taking the blame for the vaccines and tending an apology and a "scheme". While not being without blame, he takes the fall for what Boris Johnson and others did much like Sundar Pichai and other desis in the tech field. Prizes that uncle toms win. Be a desi patsy taking the fall for goras. Don't feel pity though. He is the PM of UK which means he is bought and paid for by big interest groups and also against India's interests as other PMs have been.

 

 

[goose]

how does one attribute outlier death data to vaccines or covid infection? most of the world has been exposed to both

[Real McCoy]

7 hours ago, goose said:

how does one attribute outlier death data to vaccines or covid infection? most of the world has been exposed to both

 

Young people including children, healthy sportsmen and women dying/injured because of heart attacks, strokes, cardiac arrests, brain aneuryisms, kidney failures, etc happened starting from 2021 which was the time of release of vaccines. The corona thing started in 2020 or 2019 as is stated in its name. Vaccine risks are even covered by mainstream media with the addendum that "benefits outweigh the risks" as in this clip

 

 

[goose]

not exactly a robust defence of your position. the disease process could very well take 1 year if attributed to infection

[Real McCoy]

2 hours ago, goose said:

not exactly a robust defence of your position. the disease process could very well take 1 year if attributed to infection

That is enough defence against the establishment's position. This is very much true in India's case. There was a "pandemic outbreak" in 2009 too called the swine flu. That "pandemic" didn't generate enough fear in the masses hence it didn't become one N95 masks were promoted that time too with vaccines developed

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3948

 

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Eight years after the pandemic influenza outbreak, a lawsuit alleging that GlaxoSmithKline’s Pandemrix vaccine caused narcolepsy has unearthed internal reports suggesting problems with the vaccine’s safety. Peter Doshi asks what this means for the future of transparency during public health emergencies

In October 2009, the US National Institutes of Health infectious diseases chief, Anthony Fauci, appeared on YouTube to reassure Americans about the safety of the “swine flu” vaccine. “The track record for serious adverse events is very good. It’s very, very, very rare that you ever see anything that’s associated with the vaccine that’s a serious event,”1 he said.

Four months earlier, the World Health Organization had declared H1N1 influenza a pandemic, and by October 2009 the new vaccines were being rolled out across the world. A similar story was playing out in the UK, with prominent organisations, including the Department of Health, British Medical Association, and Royal Colleges of General Practitioners, working hard to convince a reluctant NHS workforce to get vaccinated.2 “We fully support the swine flu vaccination programme … The vaccine has been thoroughly tested,” they declared in a joint statement.3

Except, it hadn’t. Anticipating a severe influenza pandemic, governments around the world had made various logistical and legal arrangements to shorten the time between recognition of a pandemic virus and the production of a vaccine and administration of that vaccine in the population. In Europe, one element of those plans was an agreement to grant licences to pandemic vaccines based on data from pre-pandemic “mock-up” vaccines produced using a different virus (H5N1 influenza). Another element, adopted by countries such as Canada, the US, UK, France, and Germany, was to provide vaccine manufacturers indemnity from liability for wrongdoing, thereby reducing the risk of a lawsuit stemming from vaccine related injury.45

 

Looky here. Its Fauci again saying the vaccines are safe and effective They conducted a pre-pandemic mock exercise that time also similar to the recent one. They also released vaccines without going through the phases in 2009, nobody took the vaccine, everyone survived. This time they took it and the results are there to show for.