If India don't collapse on their own, how long would they want to bat here ?

[adi B]

I hope we are not in such a situation, that hives england a chance to drop the bat and play out the overs for a mundane draw.

It'd better if we get all out for 420ish and England are forced to chase the runs 

[Nikhil_cric]

78 overs and 240 odd runs hopefully .

[javier26]

9 minutes ago, adi B said:

I hope we are not in such a situation, that hives england a chance to drop the bat and play out the overs for a mundane draw.

It'd better if we get all out for 420ish and England are forced to chase the runs 

 

 

True, India cannot bat too long to feel safe as that won't leave enough overs for the bowlers to dismiss England. 

 

From here, we have 6 sessions remaining in the Test. Considering how dark it gets in the late evening in England we are likely to lose around 15 overs each today as well as tomorrow. That's 30 overs/ 1 session Wasted so  only 5 sessions remain. 

 

Thus, if India bats 2 sessions today England will only have to survive for 3 sessions in the final innings. 

 

It will be a blessing in disguise if India get bowled out in the Post Lunch session and don't prolong their stay at the wicket Post Tea. In their quest for setting up a safe score, India might end up  wasting lot of time.

Edited September 5, 2021 by javier26

[javier26]

6 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

78 overs and 240 odd runs hopefully .

 

You want India to set a target of 170+ 240 = 410 and only want to give the bowlers 100 overs to dismiss England. Now that will make the Draw favorite.

[SRT100]

India need to bat England out of the game where they cant win. Bat till after tea. Give themselves about 1.5hrs before stumps.

 

Australia have done this successfully over many Ashes campaigns and England end up being bowled out.

[Nikhil_cric]

30 minutes ago, javier26 said:

 

You want India to set a target of 170+ 240 = 410 and only want to give the bowlers 100 overs to dismiss England. Now that will make the Draw favorite.

If this pitch continues to stay flat, you need the runs on the board and need to make sure the carrot is dangled such that England score at 4 an over and play false shots on the process.  I do believe 100 overs is enough to bowl out England. 

[Nikhil_cric]

9 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

India need to bat England out of the game where they cant win. Bat till after tea. Give themselves about 1.5hrs before stumps.

 

Australia have done this successfully over many Ashes campaigns and England end up being bowled out.

This.

[kubrickian]

1 hour ago, adi B said:

60 overs at least and score 200 ,a target of 370 should be more than enough 

Just because pitch is flat, doesnt mean it will be easy for batting. The pitch will get slower and there will be variable pace and bounce. Anything above 275 is quite tough on 5th day England pitch.

 

Not sure about the stats but last time, 200+ was chased on this ground was several decades ago and maybe once or twice in last 100 years.

[adi B]

8 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

Just because pitch is flat, doesnt mean it will be easy for batting. The pitch will get slower and there will be variable pace and bounce. Anything above 275 is quite tough on 5th day England pitch.

 

Not sure about the stats but last time, 200+ was chased on this ground was several decades ago and maybe once or twice in last 100 years.

Yeah looking at how the pitch is behaving ,it ain't that flat or straightforward to bat on .

The bounce looks variable ,tailor made for siraj and umesh 

[Vijy]

I am hoping that somehow we can get another 40 runs.