zen Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Primary team India Opposition team England or Pakistan or South Africa Start of match date between 1 Jan 2022 and 31 Dec 2022 Trophy ICC Men's T20 World Cup Batting position between 1 and 7 Qualifications innings batted greater than or equal to 2 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s SA Yadav 3 3 0 97 68 32.33 60 161.66 0 1 0 9 4 HH Pandya 3 3 0 105 63 35.00 73 143.83 0 1 0 5 7 V Kohli 3 3 1 144 82* 72.00 104 138.46 0 2 0 12 5 RG Sharma 3 3 0 46 27 15.33 49 93.87 0 0 0 5 1 KL Rahul 3 3 0 18 9 6.00 27 66.66 0 0 0 1 1 KD Karthik 2 2 0 7 6 3.50 17 41.17 0 0 0 0 0 Bowling Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 Arshdeep Singh 3 3 10.0 0 72 5 3/32 14.40 7.20 12.0 0 0 HH Pandya 3 3 11.0 0 93 4 3/30 23.25 8.45 16.5 0 0 Mohammed Shami 3 3 11.0 0 77 2 1/13 38.50 7.00 33.0 0 0 R Ashwin 3 3 9.0 0 93 1 1/43 93.00 10.33 54.0 0 0 B Kumar 3 3 9.4 0 68 1 1/22 68.00 7.03 58.0 0 0 AR Patel 2 2 5.0 0 51 0 - - 10.20 - 0 0 Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, zen said: Primary team India Opposition team England or Pakistan or South Africa Start of match date between 1 Jan 2022 and 31 Dec 2022 Trophy ICC Men's T20 World Cup Batting position between 1 and 7 Qualifications innings batted greater than or equal to 2 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s SA Yadav 3 3 0 97 68 32.33 60 161.66 0 1 0 9 4 HH Pandya 3 3 0 105 63 35.00 73 143.83 0 1 0 5 7 V Kohli 3 3 1 144 82* 72.00 104 138.46 0 2 0 12 5 RG Sharma 3 3 0 46 27 15.33 49 93.87 0 0 0 5 1 KL Rahul 3 3 0 18 9 6.00 27 66.66 0 0 0 1 1 KD Karthik 2 2 0 7 6 3.50 17 41.17 0 0 0 0 0 Bowling Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 Arshdeep Singh 3 3 10.0 0 72 5 3/32 14.40 7.20 12.0 0 0 HH Pandya 3 3 11.0 0 93 4 3/30 23.25 8.45 16.5 0 0 Mohammed Shami 3 3 11.0 0 77 2 1/13 38.50 7.00 33.0 0 0 R Ashwin 3 3 9.0 0 93 1 1/43 93.00 10.33 54.0 0 0 B Kumar 3 3 9.4 0 68 1 1/22 68.00 7.03 58.0 0 0 AR Patel 2 2 5.0 0 51 0 - - 10.20 - 0 0 since it's one WC, the sample sizes are too low. however, look at the bottom 3 bats. pathetic. and likewise for the bottom 3 bowlers (even shami was quite poor). Link to comment
zen Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Vijy said: since it's one WC, the sample sizes are too low. however, look at the bottom 3 bats. pathetic. and likewise for the bottom 3 bowlers (even shami was quite poor). This is only for this WC Even in last WC, many of these guys failed against NZ & Pak, while stats padding against SCO & NAM Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, zen said: This is only for this WC Even in last WC, many of these guys failed against NZ & Pak, while stats padding against SCO & NAM that's why they play all the bilaterals. to stat pad their way to glory. especially fatman (known as hitman) zen 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Vijy said: that's why they play all the bilaterals. to stat pad their way to glory. especially fatman (known as hitman) Bilaterals, where most Indian players do well in, are the only savior for these has beens ... Even in IPL: Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, zen said: Primary team India Opposition team England or Pakistan or South Africa Start of match date between 1 Jan 2022 and 31 Dec 2022 Trophy ICC Men's T20 World Cup Batting position between 1 and 7 Qualifications innings batted greater than or equal to 2 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s SA Yadav 3 3 0 97 68 32.33 60 161.66 0 1 0 9 4 HH Pandya 3 3 0 105 63 35.00 73 143.83 0 1 0 5 7 V Kohli 3 3 1 144 82* 72.00 104 138.46 0 2 0 12 5 RG Sharma 3 3 0 46 27 15.33 49 93.87 0 0 0 5 1 KL Rahul 3 3 0 18 9 6.00 27 66.66 0 0 0 1 1 KD Karthik 2 2 0 7 6 3.50 17 41.17 0 0 0 0 0 Bowling Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 Arshdeep Singh 3 3 10.0 0 72 5 3/32 14.40 7.20 12.0 0 0 HH Pandya 3 3 11.0 0 93 4 3/30 23.25 8.45 16.5 0 0 Mohammed Shami 3 3 11.0 0 77 2 1/13 38.50 7.00 33.0 0 0 R Ashwin 3 3 9.0 0 93 1 1/43 93.00 10.33 54.0 0 0 B Kumar 3 3 9.4 0 68 1 1/22 68.00 7.03 58.0 0 0 AR Patel 2 2 5.0 0 51 0 - - 10.20 - 0 0 Conclusion:- With bat - Kohli, SKY and Pandya With bowl - Arshdeep and Pandya Against England, Bhuvi, Ashwin and Shami all got their numbers smashed. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Majestic said: Conclusion:- With bat - Kohli, SKY and Pandya With bowl - Arshdeep and Pandya Against England, Bhuvi, Ashwin and Shami all got their numbers smashed. I wouldn't count Kohli as his knock (50 off 40) in SF, where performances carry more weightage, worked against India ... Though would give him credit for the knock against Pak! Edited November 13, 2022 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 If I give 2x the weightage to performance in a KO: Batting Sir Don Pak + SA - ENG (SF) 2+ Overall 2+ SKY Pak - SA + ENG (SF) 0 Overall 0 Kohli Pak + SA - ENG (SF) 2- Overall 2- Rohit, KL, etc. Overall 4- Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, zen said: I wouldn't count Kohli as his knock (50 off 40) in SF, where performances carry more weightage, worked against India ... Though would give him credit for the knock against Pak! Kohli's knock in SF was average, probably he felt that he will accelerate in later part like he did vs Pakistan but failed to do it and got out. Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, zen said: If I give 2x the weightage to performance in a KO: Batting Sir Don Pak + SA - ENG (SF) 2+ Overall 2+ SKY Pak - SA + ENG (SF) 0 Overall 0 Kohli Pak + SA - ENG (SF) 2- Overall 2- Rohit, KL, etc. Overall 4- So, both Kohli and Pandya(who stat padded) gets a + for Pakistan game but for England game, you gave Kohli a -2 because he stat padded. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Majestic said: Kohli's knock in SF was average, probably he felt that he will accelerate in later part like he did vs Pakistan but failed to do it and got out. He can't "waste" 40 balls in SF ... Below average knock There is no guarantee that a player will accelerate after playing 40 balls ... and in the SF, he had the opportunity to stamp his authority considering the flat pitch and his form ... if you can accelerate later, good, but otherwise a big big minus when you fail In the end, we can say, India paid the price for continuing with Kohli (much like in 2021) Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Majestic said: So, both Kohli and Pandya(who stat padded) gets a + for Pakistan game but for England game, you gave Kohli a -2 because he stat padded. I wouldn't count an inning played at 31/4 as stats padding and that too while chasing ... The ability to fight it out at that point (for both Sir Don & Kohli) earns a plus (like SKY did against SA for his fighting knock even though Ind lost the game) In the SF, Ind was batting first and had wickets in hand on a good batting pitch where Kohli CHOKED Edited November 13, 2022 by zen Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Majestic said: Kohli's knock in SF was average, probably he felt that he will accelerate in later part like he did vs Pakistan but failed to do it and got out. Pandya almost cost the game against Pakistan swishing in teh air. One crucial decision of Kohli not taking the 2 in the 19th over was the reason why we won the match. If pandya had faced 19th over 5th and 6th ball match would have been gone for all intents and purposes. Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Let's discuss about the bowling attack now :- Ashwin AVG 93(1 wicket in 3 games) Bhuvi AVG 68( 1 wicket in 3 games , didn't even bowled full quota) Dono ne milkar poora tournament haga hai Btw where is @Ankit_Sharma these days? He was hell bent backing KL Rahul, Bhuvi and Ashwin lol. Now look at the stats, these two have been the worst of the five main bowlers India had selected by far lol and Rahul was the worst batsman. This tells us that analysis done by him should be taken with a pinch of salt. Next time Shreyas Iyer jab short ball khele toh uski video pe thread alag se bana liyo..but yaha analysis inka poora flop ho jaata hai.. Vijy and zen 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Majestic said: Btw where is @Ankit_Sharma these days? Probably vacationing on a beach with the posters of KL, Bhuvi, Ashwin, Rohit, etc., and a picture of the World Cup. On the 1,927,827th simulation, Ind would have won the cup on his cellphone! Majestic 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, zen said: Probably vacationing on a beach with the posters of KL, Bhuvi, Ashwin, Rohit, etc., and a picture of the World Cup. On the 1,927,827th simulation, Ind would have won the cup on his cellphone! He was there some days ago. Claiming that Ashwin won India the match vs Pakistan with bat Vijy 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Majestic said: Let's discuss about the bowling attack now :- Ashwin AVG 93(1 wicket in 3 games) Bhuvi AVG 68( 1 wicket in 3 games , didn't even bowled full quota) Dono ne milkar poora tournament haga hai Btw where is @Ankit_Sharma these days? He was hell bent backing KL Rahul, Bhuvi and Ashwin lol. Now look at the stats, these two have been the worst of the five main bowlers India had selected by far lol and Rahul was the worst batsman. This tells us that analysis done by him should be taken with a pinch of salt. Next time Shreyas Iyer jab short ball khele toh uski video pe thread alag se bana liyo..but yaha analysis inka poora flop ho jaata hai.. he was also backing Brat to the hilt, who did well albeit in a very tuk-tuk way. this tuk-tuking from top 3 will continue to cost us Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Majestic said: He was there some days ago. Claiming that Ashwin won India the match vs Pakistan with bat There were guys delusional enough to believe that Nawaz bowled a no ball because of Ashwin. As if the ball automatically changed its path when Ashwin moved in Many of these guys are now pretending to be against these players! Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zen said: There were guys delusional enough to believe that Nawaz bowled a no ball because of Ashwin. As if the ball automatically changed its path when Ashwin moved in Many of these guys are now pretending to be against these players! ball was repelled by ashwin. it didn't want to move toward a spin-track bully, so it moved away from him? this might be the explanation that is given by some Edited November 13, 2022 by Vijy zen 1 Link to comment
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