vvvslaxman Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: Naseem is a good bowler but the last great bowler Pakistan churned out was Asif. None of the bowlers that have turned up for Pakistan come even close From a skill and bowling smarts perspective even Amir is better than these guys. There is no plan B for these 4 over specialists. bsriharsha and Vijy 1 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Why are you dancing around instead of just admitting he is a crap bowler wiht no skill. That Naseem shah is lucky not to play here. He would have disappeared all over. He is a good old ball pacer Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: Naseem is a good bowler but the last great bowler Pakistan churned out was Asif. None of the bowlers that have turned up for Pakistan come even close He was a good bowler, not great. He averaged 33 in ODI's...not a great number anyway. Was a good Test bowler though. express bowling 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: He is a good old ball pacer Averages almost 30 in SL in ODI's, excelled in home conditions which as per Pakistani fans anyone can do.... Test averages are lol worthy against strong nations, don't get carried away by the bullying of Bangladesh & Netherlands. He gets movement with new but is too far away from the off stump. Edited November 12, 2023 by singhvivek141 Link to comment
BH-BAIB Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Oye hoye hoye Hariss..wohoooo..glorius record. See his interview alhamdulila. Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Purple cap goes to Haris Rauf I think they should start handing out awards other than caps for such ‘performances’ For example a purple dildo for Rauf. vvvslaxman and nevada 2 Link to comment
bsriharsha Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: From a skill and bowling smarts perspective even Amir is better than these guys. There is no plan B for these 4 over specialists. Yeah , the current lot know little better than to bowl the death overs. All cheap wickets namely for stat padding. Doesn't matter that they screwed the pooch earlier in the match. express bowling and nevada 1 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Averages almost 30 in SL in ODI's, excelled in home conditions which as per Pakistani fans anyone can do.... Test averages are lol worthy against strong nations, don't get carried away by the bullying of Bangladesh & Netherlands. He gets movement with new but is too far away from the off stump. He has his limitations but isn't completely useless.He is opposite to someone like umesh,who was good with the new ball but struggled with the old ball in odis,but then umesh was good with old ball in tests in india. Mark wood can't bowl at all in Odis,poor with both old and new ball but has a better test record ,why do you think that it. Edited November 12, 2023 by MediumPacer Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: He has his limitations but isn't completely useless.He is opposite to someone like umesh,who was good with the new ball but struggled with the old ball in odis,but then umesh was good with old ball in tests in india. Mark wood can't bowl at all in Odis,poor with both old and new ball but has a better test record ,why do you think that it. Is he going to bowl 10 overs in death? Haris Rauf in this world cup power play 1 wicket 132.00 avge 9.42 ER SR 142.85 Middle overs 5 wickets 62.80 avge 6.28 ER SR 102.00 Death overs 10 wickets 8.70 avge 5.80 ER SR 90.00 So basically he goes 5.8 in death overs. It looks better than his other phases. But it is not match winning. He got some freebie wickets when batsmen wanted to accelerate. Most of the time damage was already done in the power play and middle phases. Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Is he going to bowl 10 overs in death? Haris Rauf in this world cup power play 1 wicket 132.00 avge 9.42 ER SR 142.85 Middle overs 5 wickets 62.80 avge 6.28 ER SR 102.00 Death overs 10 wickets 8.70 avge 5.80 ER SR 90.00 So basically he goes 5.8 in death overs. It looks better than his other phases. But it is not match winning. He got some freebie wickets when batsmen wanted to accelerate. Most of the time damage was already done in the power play and middle phases. 5.8 is quite good at the death,I don't think many will complain about it.In the middle over he probably needs a good spinner to help him out. As I said, he is a limited bowler but he canbe used in odis unlike mark wood.If their new ball bowling was better and also had a good spinner,then he could fit in and do his job . Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 minute ago, MediumPacer said: 5.8 is quite good at the death,I don't think many will complain about it.In the middle over he probably needs a good spinner to help him out. As I said, he is a limited bowler but he canbe used in odis unlike mark wood.If their new ball bowling was better and also had a good spinner,then he could fit in and do his job . He can't bowl 10 overs in a row can he? THat is why he is useless. Wickets he takes in death overs is a result of batsmen throwing their wickets away. Even Shaheen picked up wickets that way. Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He can't bowl 10 overs in a row can he? THat is why he is useless. Wickets he takes in death overs is a result of batsmen throwing their wickets away. Even Shaheen picked up wickets that way. What's your point that you don't need death bowling, Even Aus pacers have struggled in this wc ,you can addin their names as well. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, MediumPacer said: What's your point that you don't need death bowling, Even Aus pacers have struggled in this wc ,you can addin their names as well. Except that they didn't create records like Haris Rauf. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 Last time i swa this shot was against Nathan Lyon in Australia in test match. Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Except that they didn't create records like Haris Rauf. de kock has also created such records Link to comment
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