Clutch Indian young players

[singhvivek141]

5 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

Lol at Jurel bandwagon jumpers.

Give him some space to make a name for himself.

 

Oppositions will figure out his weaknesses and exploit them eventually.

 

What we need is absolute bare knuckle fighters who aren't afraid to dive for that extra single and show intensity.

 

Both in bowling and batting.

 

Just because heavily lopsided bowling conditions with a debutant spinners on English side with aging Anderson he scored means nothing against more quality attacks.

Agree to it somewhat, the stronger challenges await for him.

 

However, we must praise him for his mental strength, whether batting with tail in first inns or handling the pressure on a cracking pitch in second. He looked in absolute control and didn't show any jitters or fidgetness.

 

There are many players who despite playing for so many years often get cold feet when everyone pin their hopes on them. They have the ability but not the mental strength, Jurel has so far shown that. It's a positive sign.

[singhvivek141]

12 hours ago, Number said:

Given that we have failed at the finishing line in ICC tournaments in last 5 years, we should give preference to youngsters who look to perform in challenging situations and conditions, bigger occasions and are willing to finish the games by themselves.

 

Just an opinion from so far I have seen

 

1. Rishabh Pant - No comparison of him. Becomes 1.5x the player on big occasions or the time when team really needs him.

 

2. Rinku Singh - Very little in internationals so far but has shown very good composure every time I have seen him anywhere.

 

3. Pandya - Not a youngster anymore but 2022 ODI series decider in Eng, 3 Asia cup games vs Pakistan, WC 22 SF vs England.. has shown that he does have clutchness. 

 

4. Jurel - Showed signs in this game.

 

Sundar and Shardul notable mentions.

 

Need to see more of Yashaswi, Gill, Sarfaraz to judge them.

 

Agree with the names (minus Sarfaraz).

Gill often swings the pendulum from one extreme to other.

 

Sarfaraz looks fidgety/restless at times like Jadeja and I have my doubts, hope to be proven wrong.

Edited February 27 by singhvivek141

[Kron]

2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Agree with the names (minus Sarfaraz).

Gill often swings the pendulum from one extreme to other.

 

Sarfaraz looks fidgety/restless at times like Jadeja and I have my doubts, hope to be proven wrong.

He needs to lose weight. I had high hopes but his attitude and temperament is questionable.

He was supposed to be a great player of spin

[lemsip]

15 minutes ago, Kron said:

Sarfaraz looks fidgety/restless at times

So does Steve Smith. 

He is 4 innings into his career and has scored 2 50s. Time will tell but no reason whatsoever to write him off especially as he has been performing consistently well in first class cricket too. He may be heavily built but appeared to have good energy in the field and between wickets plus took a good catch running in and diving. 

[lemsip]

10 hours ago, R!TTER said:

Which also means that Jurel is more dependable

He has played 2 tests at home against an attack largely  made up of novice spinners. Promising for sure but to proclaim him as more dependable than Pant needs a much bigger and varied sample size. Shreyas Iyer looked a million bucks Vs spin when he debuted at home Vs NZ too and we all know how that turned out.

Edited February 27 by lemsip

[Kron]

11 hours ago, R!TTER said:

Which also means that Jurel is more dependable, Pant threw away a great start vs Eng in first test Chennai 2021 which resulted in a below par score. That first innings lead was crucial & allowed Eng to win that test. Now jurel could maybe not be that effective away but he has a more reliable game, at least on first glance. But we can play them both away so it's not necessarily pitting one against the other.

But shreyas bhai had very bad skill vs short ball. Jurel seems good vs short ball

[lemsip]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

12 hours ago, R!TTER said:

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But shreyas bhai had very bad skill vs short ball. Jurel seems good vs short ball

Jurel has just faced a 41 year old at the end of his career and a county bowler barely crossing 120k on slow pitches. Will have to see him in more pace friendly conditions to make a judgement 

[Kron]

49 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Jurel has just faced a 41 year old at the end of his career and a county bowler barely crossing 120k on slow pitches. Will have to see him in more pace friendly conditions to make a judgement 

Thats true but even in india bro shreyas was very bad vs short ball. Even vs trundlers. 

 

So jurel passes that test. 

 

But litmus test will be vs sena in seaming or bouncy tracks. 

 

Would have loved to see him vs SA last time.

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, Kron said:

Thats true but even in india bro shreyas was very bad vs short ball. Even vs trundlers. 

 

So jurel passes that test. 

 

But litmus test will be vs sena in seaming or bouncy tracks. 

 

Would have loved to see him vs SA last time.

 

India needs good players against swing as well. Indians generally do well in Australia as the ball comes dead straight mostly. We struggle where the ball moves.

[Vijy]

On 2/27/2024 at 8:29 AM, vvvslaxman said:

 

India needs good players against swing as well. Indians generally do well in Australia as the ball comes dead straight mostly. We struggle where the ball moves.

yes, this is the big issue. but both Eng and NZ tracks are flat now, although they will give us green tops (especially NZ)