Adamant Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said: you are spot on. 2021 t20 india crashed out of t20 worldcup having lost to Pakistan and the preassure mounted in next match. 2022 t20 , had we not won against Pakistan again, ind vs zim ended up close game . we lost to South Africa as well . Kohli was the second highest in runs/strike rate, next to payday with Rahul/rohit/surya Kumar yadava failing big time. The pitch was better under lights and played slow in the first innings. I think you are talking about ind vs ban which was close and we won by dls(5 runs) Even there Kohli was the highest run scorer at 150 str ratr. Link to comment
New guy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, mikeypbadana86 said: you are spot on. 2021 t20 india crashed out of t20 worldcup having lost to Pakistan and the preassure mounted in next match. 2022 t20 , had we not won against Pakistan again, ind vs zim ended up close game . we lost to South Africa as well . Kohli was the second highest in runs/strike rate, next to payday with Rahul/rohit/surya Kumar yadava failing big time. The pitch was better under lights and played slow in the first innings. Did we win those cups? Link to comment
putrevus Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, New guy said: Did we win those cups? Is Kohli only player in the team?? Link to comment
New guy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, mikeypbadana86 said: Sachin got man of the series in 2003 worldcup despite failing in the final. was he stat padding? Kohli was 35 years old when he topped 2023 worldcup with a century in semis and half century in final. You label him as stat padder? Had rohit played stat padding innings in the final instead of throwing his wicket away, we would have won the 2023 worldcup.(not my view, Sunil gavaskar repeatedly labelled robot's shot as greedy having scored 6 and 4 already against Maxwell, if he had the skill to stat pad like kohli in final, there is no way India would have lost the match ) Historically rated as one of the best knocks in final, this is aravinda desilvas score in 1996 final against AUS in final. 107 off 122. Kohli all through out the 2023 worldcup maintained strike rate of 90 and batted through the innings. Aravinda de Silva not out 107 124 176 13 0 86.29 My case rests since I can't argue with a blind hater. If you don't understand the difference between t20s and ODIs there is no point having any discussion with you my dude. In ODIs we have 6 batsman for 50 overs. Long innings don't harm We are only and only talking of t20s. There are only 120 balls for 6 batsmen . Batmen playing long safe innings actively harm the team. There have been multiple studies (including many by Cricinfo, just google) which shows batsmen playing long inings harma the team unless they are over 180 strike rate People need to stop thinking of t20 as extended odis. We are playing ODI greats and then praising their long useless inings. T20 needs different strategy and approach, top needs to be batsmen like Narine and similar batsmen Long innings stat padders help team win in ODIs but they harm the team in T20s No team with stat padders on top will ever win the t20 world cup. Edited May 4 by New guy Link to comment
mikeypbadana86 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 6 hours ago, New guy said: If you don't understand the difference between t20s and ODIs there is no point having any discussion with you my dude. In ODIs we have 6 batsman for 50 overs. Long innings don't harm We are only and only talking of t20s. There are only 120 balls for 6 batsmen . Batmen playing long safe innings actively harm the team. There have been multiple studies (including many by Cricinfo, just google) which shows batsmen playing long inings harma the team unless they are over 180 strike rate People need to stop thinking of t20 as extended odis. We are playing ODI greats and then praising their long useless inings. T20 needs different strategy and approach, top needs to be batsmen like Narine and similar batsmen Long innings stat padders help team win in ODIs but they harm the team in T20s No team with stat padders on top will ever win the t20 world cup. Except 2021, kohli did fine. lets eagerly wait what's to unfold in 2024 t20 wc. 180 strike rate was no where to be seen in 2022 t20 final when ben stokes played a long innings.2021 t20, yes it fits your narrative. 2016 t20 final, target was 160 ish . 2014 t20 target was 130 ish in the final 2012 t20 target was again moderate 140 ish Link to comment
mikeypbadana86 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 6 hours ago, New guy said: Did we win those cups? when did ever a single person win a cup ? isnot it the team? when did others step up? Link to comment
mikeypbadana86 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said: when did ever a single person win a cup ? isnot it the team? when did others step up? there is a cricinfo article which takes about historical aspect of luck/chance element in winning iCC trophies some of the unlucky incidents in Indias ICC final events 2019. Indias innings got played next day due to overnight rain which resulted in undue advantage for NZ with overcast conditions & extra swing than is available 2023- pitch doctoring by team management going wrong 2017 champions trophy- bumrahs no ball wicket of fakhar zaman kinda evens out what ever luck dhoni had during 2007 t20 final & 2011 World Cup semis Link to comment
Vijy Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/4/2024 at 9:46 AM, Chaos said: India's best batter... by a light year Chaos 1 Link to comment
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