Texy Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 Hindu man set on fire in East London 'for dating Muslim girl' Thursday, 19 June 2008 Police were appealing for witnesses today following the attempted murder of a man who was doused in petrol and set on fire in east London. The 20-year-old, who is fighting for his life in hospital, was torched as he sat in his car in Forest Gate. It is believed the Hindi victim, who suffered 65 per cent burns in the attack, was targeted because he was dating a Muslim girlfriend. He had just parked his car, a green Honda Prelude, in St George’s Road when he was approached by the suspect or suspects and had petrol poured over him before being set alight. He managed to get out of the vehicle and was discovered nearby before being taken to hospital and transferred to a specialist burns unit where he remains in a critical condition. A police spokesman said: “Officers were called to the scene at 6am last Thursday to reports of a man on fire.†DI Sam Faulkner, from the violent crime unit at Forest Gate said: “This was a very nasty attack and the victim remains in a critical condition. “We are appealing for witnesses or anyone with information to come forward and would particularly like to hear from anyone who saw the suspect making off.†Two men aged 20 and 21 have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and released on bail. Today's appeal comes as a 15-year-old girl and a man in his 20s are both still critically ill after being set alight in two separate attacks in the Greater London area last weekend. Reply With Quote So it's completely OKAY when muslim guys date numerous hindu girls and marry them/convert them but it's NOT OK for a muslim girl to do the same! Talk about hypocrisy..... I have seen scores of pakistani muslim men dating "white girls" and other european girls/ indian girls but whenever i asked them: is it ok for your sister to date a non muslim...the ans always been: NO, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN OUR RELIGION!
Dirty_South Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 Already posted here -> http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=430056&postcount=37 BTW......i was so furious when I read the news :mad:
Dhondy Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 Blue Billion, I had to edit your post. It was offensive and could be construed as hate mongering. There is no evidence that the man suffered this fate at the hand of Muslims. And even if he did, there are millions of decent Muslims who would recoil in horror at such atrocities. You have no right to besmirch their name.
DomainK Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 Blue Billion, I had to edit your post. It was offensive and could be construed as hate mongering. There is no evidence that the man suffered this fate at the hand of Muslims. And even if he did, there are millions of decent Muslims who would recoil in horror at such atrocities. You have no right to besmirch their name. With all due respect, the story seems to point in that direction only. However, I agree with the second part of your posts. There are many good people in Islam just like in any other religion. And like any community, a handful of bad people give a bad name to the rest. This is just an act of an uneducated mind and nothing more.
IndianRenegade Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 So it's completely OKAY when muslim guys date numerous hindu girls and marry them/convert them but it's NOT OK for a muslim girl to do the same! Talk about hypocrisy..... I have seen scores of pakistani muslim men dating "white girls" and other european girls/ indian girls but whenever i asked them: is it ok for your sister to date a non muslim...the ans always been: NO, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN OUR RELIGION! Yes! according to Islam it is okay for muslim men to marry non muslim women if she accepts to convert to Islam. A muslim women can marry a non muslim man if he accepts Islam.... Hypocritical? Yes.... What else can u expect from religions of the world?
Texy Posted June 22, 2008 Author Posted June 22, 2008 Blue Billion, I had to edit your post. It was offensive and could be construed as hate mongering. There is no evidence that the man suffered this fate at the hand of Muslims. And even if he did, there are millions of decent Muslims who would recoil in horror at such atrocities. You have no right to besmirch their name. no evidence??? in which world do you live in?? It was done by the girl's brothers. Haven't you read abt hundreds of stories in pakistan...what happens to hindu girls over there?? or what about malaysia? yes there are many "decent" muslims but they have no courage to stand up or protest or maybe they inwardly support these a**holes. BILLION ppl marched when danish cartoons came out......where are those billion ppl when terror bombings happen EVERY DAY! afTER jaipur blasts ....where were all the ppl who protested and chanted across india when danish cartoons came out....why didn't they do the same after jaipur blasts?
Sachinism Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 Wow i cant believe i've not heard of this St. Georges road is like less than 5 mins away from where I live im not gonna voice my opinion on this coz i would probably be banned for racism
Rajiv Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 no evidence??? in which world do you live in?? It was done by the girl's brothers. Haven't you read abt hundreds of stories in pakistan...what happens to hindu girls over there?? or what about malaysia? yes there are many "decent" muslims but they have no courage to stand up or protest or maybe they inwardly support these a**holes. BILLION ppl marched when danish cartoons came out......where are those billion ppl when terror bombings happen EVERY DAY! afTER jaipur blasts ....where were all the ppl who protested and chanted across india when danish cartoons came out....why didn't they do the same after jaipur blasts? ..err, bit over exaggerated, all these things happen in poor families ( which also happens in India also BTW )
FistOfFury Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 No one should be suprised by this event because its standard, especially in the UK. I have seen too many cases in the news of pakistani muslim girls wanting to marry date another muslim (let alone another religion!) dying of honour killings...even if the guy is a pakistani muslims sometimes, because they are not following the families wishes of an arranged marriage. So for those brothers and parents (even other muslims) to see her dating a Hindu, it is biggest dishonour to their family, they will therefore act ruthlessly, violently. This is their ultra-conservative militant culture. Their families and the rest of the community work as a unit: Mess with one of them, mess with all of them. Just because everyone else is liberal towards them, doesnt mean they will be liberal towards everyone else. Not to say there arent any liberal muslim, i'm certain there are a few. In Islam it is necessary to increase numbers, that is why they have such big families. The Extremists want to take it further and convert "Their women" - non-believer women, increase numbers and hit them where it hurts. That is why there have been many cases in the UK where Sikh and Hindu girls have been targetted, and it has been documented. In their communities there is firm male dominance, as said earlier in this thread the men will very often sleep with non-muslim women and want a virgin muslim wife (this is the philosphy of "spoiling" the enemies women), the women have to remain chaste - this is not always the case of course, the women sometimes do date and go around with non-muslims too. This is not all muslims, many probably just stick to their own muslim women etc.... rather than "spoiling the enemies". Hindus dont do this. If the Hindu girl runs off with the muslim man, the family just let it be and never speak to her again. This happens quite a bit in blighty. The Hindu identity is not the same as the muslim identity (which has clear definitions), whilst Hindu has none. Therefore, there's not much honour to defend, Hindus dont bother with ruthlessness and violent acts like burning people (OUTSIDE INDIA!!). Some people might say they are cowards, who knows. The girl goes off on her own choice... it would be a shame if its your own daughter or relative or friend.
Dirty_South Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Why is that most of the people in India (and its neighboring countries) want their son/daughter to be married to the person they say/wish ??? My dad is really cool bout this but he doesn't want me to marry a Muslim gal :) and neither will I marry a muslim. Most of my friends in Norway married the gal they loved without any prob...that includes some Norwegians marrying Hindu gals as well.My cousin married a American guy who lives in Mysore now.Nobody objected it. It really sux when I read news like this in the 21 century !
Guest dada_rocks Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Wanting that is fine but to burn people alive because they didn't do what u wanted; well takes the cake..
Guest dada_rocks Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 No one should be suprised by this event because its standard' date=' [b']especially in the UK. I have seen too many cases in the news of pakistani muslim girls wanting to marry date another muslim (let alone another religion!) dying of honour killings...even if the guy is a pakistani muslims sometimes, because they are not following the families wishes of an arranged marriage. So for those brothers and parents (even other muslims) to see her dating a Hindu, it is biggest dishonour to their family, they will therefore act ruthlessly, violently. This is their ultra-conservative militant culture. Their families and the rest of the community work as a unit: Mess with one of them, mess with all of them. Just because everyone else is liberal towards them, doesnt mean they will be liberal towards everyone else. Not to say there arent any liberal muslim, i'm certain there are a few. In Islam it is necessary to increase numbers, that is why they have such big families. The Extremists want to take it further and convert "Their women" - non-believer women, increase numbers and hit them where it hurts. That is why there have been many cases in the UK where Sikh and Hindu girls have been targetted, and it has been documented. In their communities there is firm male dominance, as said earlier in this thread the men will very often sleep with non-muslim women and want a virgin muslim wife (this is the philosphy of "spoiling" the enemies women), the women have to remain chaste - this is not always the case of course, the women sometimes do date and go around with non-muslims too. This is not all muslims, many probably just stick to their own muslim women etc.... rather than "spoiling the enemies". Hindus dont do this. If the Hindu girl runs off with the muslim man, the family just let it be and never speak to her again. This happens quite a bit in blighty. The Hindu identity is not the same as the muslim identity (which has clear definitions), whilst Hindu has none. Therefore, there's not much honour to defend, Hindus dont bother with ruthlessness and violent acts like burning people (OUTSIDE INDIA!!). Some people might say they are cowards, who knows. The girl goes off on her own choice... it would be a shame if its your own daughter or relative or friend. Well it's in Uk that's why news in isalmic states these things are not even news worthy..
Guest dada_rocks Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Ask these questions and you are islamophobe as per CAIR. And their defence rather an eyewash to the effect that everyone does it will point to some antiquated tribal village in rajasthan . In their view London's cultural sensibility should rival the non-descript illiterate tribal village folks'.
veer Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 and this is why I dont mind when those radicals are getting killed in every part of the world.. yeahh call me whatever you want.. but hell be with them..
Guest dada_rocks Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Wats the scene in US? :nervous: As of today they will be barbequeed if they attempted anything like that in UK.. Their behaviour pattern rather sickness of their behavious pattern draws its succour from the comfort of numbe....They are yet to reach that critical mass here..
Dhondy Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Oi, Dada. UK makes a lot of money from its trade partners, many of whom are Islamic nations. Read the last entry on my blog. Trade trumps everything.
Guest dada_rocks Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Dhondy Saudis own around 10% of USA that's alot.. I have always believed sickness can only be countered with sickness they don't understand the lanagauge of peaceful dialogue. Gandhi got his peace to work OTOH Teg bahadur got himself executed... (Difference british had bare minimum morality that concept was unknown to Mughals). a bare minimum morality has to be present in your adversary in order for your peaceful tactics to work. This is where people like Michael Savage and other zombies show their utility in USA. There is one guy Glenn beck on CNN who would openly say god forbid if another 9/11 happens we would be seeing muslims surrounded by barbed wires...They aren't kidding if needed they will put the whole constitution on hold and will do whatever they please.. One look at the way these CAIR advocates talk on american TV and the way they talk on british TV would tell you how different milieus are in these respective countries.... Anyway here is my checklist of how these people change their behavious pattern depdning on their demographic numbers tCiGeSbgDbc This is how behaviour pattern changes a very informative video I will check the blog later
King Tendulkar Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 UK ain't that bad, they will be arrested and locked up.
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