Feed Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 The BCCI has excluded England from the proposed Champions League Twenty20 tournament and instead invited Pakistan to join India, South Africa and Australia for the event, Niranjan Shah, the Indian board secretary, has said. More... Champions League ICL policy could cost England - BCCI Cricinfo staff June 22, 2008 The story so far *September 13, 2007: The Champions League, an international Twenty20 competition, is launched. Run by the cricket boards of India, England, Australia and South Africa, it will feature the top two domestic sides from each country. *June 7, 2008: An ECB release states the Champions League, with US$5m on offer for the winners, will take place in September-October. *June 8, 2008: Lalit Modi, the chairman and commissioner of the IPL, says IPL franchises will get first priority over players who are also part of other teams to have qualified for the Champions League. He states teams fielding players from the Indian Cricket League (ICL) will be disqualified. *June 10, 2008: The chairmen of several English counties demand clarification over the eligibility of ICL players. *June 19, 2008: Sharad Pawar, the BCCI president, says national boards are free to adopt their own policy over ICL players, but warns the BCCI would then have the freedom to take its decision. Two weeks after an ECB release announced the US$5 million Champions League Twenty20 tournament, England are in danger of not being part of the event after the BCCI officially resolved on Sunday not to let players associated with the unauthorised Indian Cricket League (ICL) participate. Niranjan Shah, the BCCI secretary, told Cricinfo that Pakistan has been asked to join the tournament after the Indian board found it would not be possible to invite English counties due to the ECB's "policy of letting ICL players play in their leagues". While the IPL - a part of the Indian board - is the driving force behind the Champions League, the rules for the tournament are currently being framed by Cricket Australia. IS Bindra, a member of the Indian Premier League (IPL) governing council, told Cricinfo that "as of now, three [participating] countries are confirmed - India, South Africa and Australia". "Pakistan may be the fourth, but first we have to get a response from the ECB on the ICL issue," Bindra said. "Teams from England can be considered, but only those who don't have players associated with ICL. "The BCCI is very clear that ICL players will not be featured in the tournament. If the ECB can't guarantee that it will clear only teams without ICL players for the tournament, then we will look at the replacement." The BCCI has barred all official links with players associated with the ICL, which was launched last year before the BCCI's high-profile IPL, but there are currently around 25 players connected with the ICL playing for 15 of the 18 English counties. Bindra, who is also the ICC's new principal advisor, said the decision to ask the ECB to ensure teams without ICL links for the Champions League was taken at a meeting of the BCCI in New Delhi on Sunday. "We will get a final picture when the issue is discussed during the ICC's annual conference in Dubai this month-end." Other BCCI officials told Cricinfo that they don't expect the ECB to provide a "no-ICL guarantee" and suggested that English teams are virtually out of the tournament. The ECB allowed players associated with the ICL to play in their domestic circuit after it faced legal action from the league, which was backed by the country's strong trade laws that protects the rights of individuals. "It's just that the BCCI would like the ECB to be seen as taking a decision on this," an official said. Lalit Modi, the IPL chairman and commissioner, had previously told Cricinfo that teams with players associated with ICL would not be invited for the tournament "under any circumstance", even if these players are dropped just for the event. The Champions League was announced by England in a press release on June 7 which said that the ECB, Cricket Australia, the BCCI and Cricket South Africa had "reached an agreement for the staging of the inaugural Champions League this autumn". However, Modi later said that the announcement was premature. The tournament will involve the top two Twenty20 domestic teams from participating nations. Western Australia and Victoria from Australia, Rajasthan Royals and Chennai Super Kings from the Indian Premier League in India along with the Dolphins and Titans from the Pro20 in South Africa have already qualified. Link to comment
theguyinallblue Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hmm...interesting development... how many countaries have domestic 20-20 tournamant? SA, AUS, PAK, ENG and India...i am sure about.. NZ, WI and SL..i don't know... actually inviting Pak for 20-20 champons trophy will be more profitable for BCCI..as Eng teams are very boring...and they hardly have any decent 20-20 players.. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 West Indies obviously have the Stanford Competition. Link to comment
flamy Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 BCCI are totally bullying. LOLness Link to comment
MalikBrother Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I am forced to show support of BCCI replacing England to include Pakistan :nervous: Screw England Link to comment
Sachinism Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 lol im sure they could have accomadated both teams, but then again England were arguing with the BCCI Link to comment
kablooee87 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Pretty depressing stuff. I have still not heard a legitimate explanation from the BCCI as to why players who played match in the ICL should not be allowed to play in England, Pakistan, or even India for that matter. Going beyond that, if the Champions Trophy supposed to be a global tournament for domestic teams, then why exactly are the BCCI the ones calling the shots? Link to comment
punjabi_khota Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Pretty depressing stuff. I have still not heard a legitimate explanation from the BCCI as to why players who played match in the ICL should not be allowed to play in England, Pakistan, or even India for that matter. Going beyond that, if the Champions Trophy supposed to be a global tournament for domestic teams, then why exactly are the BCCI the ones calling the shots? $$$$$$$$ Link to comment
kablooee87 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 $$$$$$$$ Which is why I said it's depressing. Link to comment
theguyinallblue Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Pretty depressing stuff. I have still not heard a legitimate explanation from the BCCI as to why players who played match in the ICL should not be allowed to play in England, Pakistan, or even India for that matter. Going beyond that, if the Champions Trophy supposed to be a global tournament for domestic teams, then why exactly are the BCCI the ones calling the shots? There is one coaching institute in Patna ( Bihar ) which gives free tution to underprivileged talented kids for preparation of IITs...and most of their students crack IIT Entrance Exams.. Now other big commercial coaching centres wanted to take the credit for the success of these poor students..and offered them money to say that those students studied in their coaching centres...its a normal fraud practice prevalent among coaching centres.. Now how would the original coaching centre feel if their wards cheated them.. similarly..BCCI nurtures budding cricketers in India..right from under 13 onwards... it has invested in creating infrastructure...marketing...and other things.. Now how can it allow a commercial venture to grab a bite of the fruit..BCCI has worked so hard to grow.. IF ICL wants to promote cricket..they should have started with Under 13..they should have first built stadiums..other infrastructures..should have organised under 13,15,17 et tournaments... they should have gone to each and every state to create a state team... ICL is totally a commercial tournament..whose profits gos in the pocket of Subhash Chandra..while BCCI invests the money back in the cricket... This is the difference between BCCI and Zee ICL... ICL is not making any new infrastructure ..it wants the piggy back ride on the hard work of BCCI.. so its logical for BCCI to prevent this practice... Link to comment
sandtest Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 ^^^ Agree with Sandeep. ICL launch was what we call -- "bahati Gangaa mein hath dhona" (when crop is ready, a third farmer comes at the end and starts harvesting!!) However, BCCI could have adopted a middle path, like giving ONLY one time waiver to those teams and asking them to ensure that none of their players feature in ICL in future, if possible some monetary incentives. In fact this could have done more damage to ICL than banning and confronting. As far as BCCIs paranoia about ICL is concerned it's fully justified. BCCI is extra careful about ICL and wants to isolate them in all possible ways since unlike Stanford ICL is an INDIAN league and is in direct competition with BCCI and could be even dangerous for future of BCCI. Link to comment
flamy Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Either way, BCCI is working very hard to get sued. Link to comment
theguyinallblue Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 BCCI can not be sued in India... and BCCI only requested PCB, CA, SLC, CSA ..not to accept ICL rebels.. its only ECB which is acting dumb..and the hangover of their ruling ICC is not yet over.. if they do not mind their ways..ECB will be marginalized...in ICC... Link to comment
Feed Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hayden and Hussey to put Australia first Matthew Hayden and Michael Hussey have both confirmed that Australia's tour match in India in early October will take precedence over their potential involvement in the Champions League. More... Champions League 2008 Hayden and Hussey to put Australia first Cricinfo staff June 23, 2008 Matthew Hayden says Australia's warm-up match in India will take priority over the Champions League © Getty Images Matthew Hayden and Michael Hussey have both confirmed that Australia's tour match in India in early October will take precedence over their potential involvement in the Champions League. Their comments are in contrast to the claim of IS Bindra, a member of the Indian Premier League (IPL) governing council, who said the pair would play for their IPL team, Chennai Super Kings, even though the Champions League clashes with Australia's tour of India. Only one warm-up match is scheduled, to take place from October 2 to 5, before the first Test in Bangalore, which begins on October 9. Australia will have just been to the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, provided they do not pull out, and their players will be desperate for a lengthy hit-out ahead of such a major Test series. Hayden said his IPL contract left no doubt that Australia's match would be his sole concern. "The rule is simple on this one," Hayden told the Australian. "If we are playing for Australia in any form our decision will be to honour that commitment first. There are no grey areas here." For Hussey, playing for Chennai appears to be his third priority. He has already confirmed that he would prefer to represent his home state Western Australia, who have qualified for the Champions League as one of the two top Twenty20 teams in Australia's domestic tournament. Although he would have reluctantly accepted that his contract gave Chennai precedence over Western Australia, the issue will probably be irrelevant in any case. The Sydney Morning Herald has reported that Hussey told team officials on Sunday that he expected to be playing in the tour match and not in the Champions League. © Cricinfo Link to comment
flamy Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 good shith. Now wtf will BCCI do? dumasses... Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 good on them. thats the way to go.. Link to comment
punjabi_khota Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 BCCI and IPL people better keep their ****ing mouths shut. Link to comment
kablooee87 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 There is one coaching institute in Patna ( Bihar ) which gives free tution to underprivileged talented kids for preparation of IITs...and most of their students crack IIT Entrance Exams.. Now other big commercial coaching centres wanted to take the credit for the success of these poor students..and offered them money to say that those students studied in their coaching centres...its a normal fraud practice prevalent among coaching centres.. Now how would the original coaching centre feel if their wards cheated them.. similarly..BCCI nurtures budding cricketers in India..right from under 13 onwards... it has invested in creating infrastructure...marketing...and other things.. Now how can it allow a commercial venture to grab a bite of the fruit..BCCI has worked so hard to grow.. IF ICL wants to promote cricket..they should have started with Under 13..they should have first built stadiums..other infrastructures..should have organised under 13,15,17 et tournaments... they should have gone to each and every state to create a state team... ICL is totally a commercial tournament..whose profits gos in the pocket of Subhash Chandra..while BCCI invests the money back in the cricket... This is the difference between BCCI and Zee ICL... ICL is not making any new infrastructure ..it wants the piggy back ride on the hard work of BCCI.. so its logical for BCCI to prevent this practice... And what exactly does that have to do with the non-Indian ICL players. None of the Indian ICL players will be in the Champions Trophy so this is irrelevant. Link to comment
Chandan Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 And what exactly does that have to do with the non-Indian ICL players. None of the Indian ICL players will be in the Champions Trophy so this is irrelevant. That is not irrelevant. If the ICL players are allowed to play in official ventures as well as ICL, many other ICL kind of things can crop up in other countries too. What will happen then? Players will leave the board which had nurtured them since the beginning, to get a bigger pie somewhere else and will be able to participate in official tournaments too. Is that fair? Can you imagine what a great chaos there will be then? I suppose other boards in ICC are supporting BCCI precisely because of that. But the legal system in England is not permitting England to do so. Also the washed up cricketers play only in English county cricket--none of the other boards let such old and retired players play their domestic cricket. But one thing is sure. ICL has taught BCCI the value of players who were treated like dirt in Indian cricket before. I hope all the boards have to go through this tussle and they realise how important players are for them. Australia knew it since the beginning and we can see the result of that too. Link to comment
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