Court Blocks Trump's Order to Send Transgender Women to Male Prisons

[Alam_dar]

32 minutes ago, mishra said:

Those trans sportsmen at professional level shouldn’t have access to drugs.

 

To me, it's clear that these medications have nothing to do with being professional or not. Without them, even highly skilled individuals may struggle mentally and face an increased risk of suicide.

[Muloghonto]

5 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

How can you ignore and hide this fact that the majority of peer-reviewed studies indicate that gender-affirming therapies, including hormone treatments, are beneficial for transgender individuals. These therapies have been associated with improvements in mental health, quality of life, and reductions in depression and anxiety. For instance, a systematic review found that gender-affirming hormone therapy (GAHT) may improve the physical, psychological, and social health of transgender people seeking medical transition. PMC

 

Conversely, there is a lack of peer-reviewed studies demonstrating that these therapies are ineffective or harmful. A comprehensive analysis found no studies concluding that gender transition causes overall harm. What We Know

 

While some studies have reported mixed or null findings, they are in the minority. The prevailing scientific evidence supports the efficacy of gender-affirming therapies in enhancing the well-being of transgender individuals.

 

 

We are not living in a 100% perfect world. And if anyone *ed the bodies of trans people, then the responsibility goes to gods of all religions. 

Thus, if trans people feel themselves better by using therapies and drugs, why should they then not use them? Why do you want them to keep on suffering due to mistakes of your religious gods? 

 

 

 

If u wanna use drugs and therapies to make yourself feel better, sure. Even if it doesn't work. Still sure. ( I can cite peer reviewed paper that shows transgender treatment offers no benefit). 

But if you lose strength and stamina due to these therapies, that's your burden to bear and consequence of choices you made. It has nothing to do with women and your choices are not something women should pay for. 

[mishra]

4 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

To me, it's clear that these medications have nothing to do with being professional or not. Without them, even highly skilled individuals may struggle mentally and face an increased risk of suicide.

I think u have no idea of sports Industry and money spent to win medals to create Sports version of Rock Star to promote Corporate brands. For example: Most long distance athletes who win are on some sort of prescribed drug like asthma or something. IIRC, Russia exposed whole

list of Medical issues and prescibed drugs for athletes of west.

 

Principally a tran doesn't need to told by anyone that he is inferior person  Because he is equal. However Person can undergo sex change if he thinks there is social pressure. But No, No way they have right to compete in women sports.

Edited February 10, 2025 by mishra

[Alam_dar]

10 hours ago, mishra said:

However Person can undergo sex change if he thinks there is social pressure. But No, No way they have right to compete in women sports.

 

This is the key difference in perspective. From our view, there is no unfair advantage, as trans women often have even lower testosterone and muscle mass than many cis female athletes.

If cis women with naturally higher testosterone and muscle mass are allowed to compete, then why should trans women with lower levels be excluded?

 

[Muloghonto]

3 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

This is the key difference in perspective. From our view, there is no unfair advantage, as trans women often have even lower testosterone and muscle mass than many cis female athletes.

If cis women with naturally higher testosterone and muscle mass are allowed to compete, then why should trans women with lower levels be excluded?

 

Your view is false, since peer reviewed medical research has comprehensively shown that male puberty gives permanent advantages.

 

Also, your view is raper euro misogyny, because even if men who took drugs to feel better are exactly the same physical capabilities as women, they are not women and competing as women is taking finite spot from women and giving it to men. Which is misogyny. 

Which is what we expect from the raper continent and it's 50 times worse rape per capita than the global mean. 

[jf1gp_1]

On 2/11/2025 at 2:27 PM, Alam_dar said:

This is the key difference in perspective. From our view, there is no unfair advantage, as trans women often have even lower testosterone and muscle mass than many cis female athletes.

If cis women with naturally higher testosterone and muscle mass are allowed to compete, then why should trans women with lower levels be excluded?

Read your testosterone theory. Please explain why not one fake man has been able to crack actual mens event ? 

 

 

[Alam_dar]

On 2/16/2025 at 5:11 AM, jf1gp_1 said:

Read your testosterone theory. Please explain why not one fake man has been able to crack actual mens event ? 

 

Trans men have competed successfully in men’s sports. Take Chris Mosier, a trans man who qualified for the U.S. duathlon team and competed in men’s Olympic trials. He didn’t “dominate,” but he held his own—proof that trans men can and do compete in men’s events without it being a headline every time.

 

The age at which trans men start testosterone therapy can absolutely affect their physical potential compared to elite cisgender male athletes. Cisgender men experience testosterone’s effects from puberty onward—typically starting around 12–16 years old. This prolonged exposure during adolescence shapes their bodies in ways that are hard to fully replicate later. It drives greater bone density, broader shoulders, and higher muscle mass, all of which are advantages in sports. Elite male athletes often build on this foundation with years of training from a young age, optimizing those natural traits.

 

Trans men, on the other hand, usually don’t begin hormone therapy until adulthood—or at least late teens—depending on personal circumstances, access to healthcare, or when they come out. Testosterone therapy can still do a lot after puberty: it increases muscle mass, boosts red blood cell count for endurance, and shifts fat distribution. Studies, like ones from the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, show that after 1–2 years of testosterone, trans men’s muscle mass and strength can approach the lower-to-middle range of cisgender men’s. But there’s a catch—bones don’t widen the same way after puberty’s growth plates close, and the total muscle-building window is shorter compared to a cisgender man who’s had decades of testosterone-driven development.

 

So, a trans man starting hormones at, say, 20, might not reach the peak physical ceiling of a cisgender male athlete who’s been training since age 10 with naturally high testosterone. 

 

 

 

*****

 

You asked me a question.

And now it is my turn to ask a question.

 

What is your SOLUTION?

 

1. Do you want trans people to be prohibited to take part in sports?

2. Or do you want to spend money for SEPARATE trans women and trans men?

3. Or do you want some compromise (as there are hardly any trans people present in sports), and then put conditions like testosterone levels?

 

So, if cis women with higher testosterone and muscle mass levels than trans women are allowed to compete in women's sport, why then you want trans women with lower levels cannot take part in women's sport? What's your problem with this? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Muloghonto]

22 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

Trans men have competed successfully in men’s sports. Take Chris Mosier, a trans man who qualified for the U.S. duathlon team and competed in men’s Olympic trials. He didn’t “dominate,” but he held his own—proof that trans men can and do compete in men’s events without it being a headline every time.

 

The age at which trans men start testosterone therapy can absolutely affect their physical potential compared to elite cisgender male athletes. Cisgender men experience testosterone’s effects from puberty onward—typically starting around 12–16 years old. This prolonged exposure during adolescence shapes their bodies in ways that are hard to fully replicate later. It drives greater bone density, broader shoulders, and higher muscle mass, all of which are advantages in sports. Elite male athletes often build on this foundation with years of training from a young age, optimizing those natural traits.

 

Trans men, on the other hand, usually don’t begin hormone therapy until adulthood—or at least late teens—depending on personal circumstances, access to healthcare, or when they come out. Testosterone therapy can still do a lot after puberty: it increases muscle mass, boosts red blood cell count for endurance, and shifts fat distribution. Studies, like ones from the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, show that after 1–2 years of testosterone, trans men’s muscle mass and strength can approach the lower-to-middle range of cisgender men’s. But there’s a catch—bones don’t widen the same way after puberty’s growth plates close, and the total muscle-building window is shorter compared to a cisgender man who’s had decades of testosterone-driven development.

 

So, a trans man starting hormones at, say, 20, might not reach the peak physical ceiling of a cisgender male athlete who’s been training since age 10 with naturally high testosterone. 

 

 

 

*****

 

You asked me a question.

And now it is my turn to ask a question.

 

What is your SOLUTION?

 

1. Do you want trans people to be prohibited to take part in sports?

2. Or do you want to spend money for SEPARATE trans women and trans men?

3. Or do you want some compromise (as there are hardly any trans people present in sports), and then put conditions like testosterone levels?

 

So, if cis women with higher testosterone and muscle mass levels than trans women are allowed to compete in women's sport, why then you want trans women with lower levels cannot take part in women's sport? What's your problem with this? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Solution is simple: sports is sex segregated, not this idiot white people invented noob nonsense of gender. 

Ergo, what your gender identity is, is irrelevant for physical competition, what your biology is, aka male or female,  is the only determinant. 

 

Just like how your religious belief is irrelevant in sport, so is your gender belief. You can believe yourself to be whatever gender u r. U r still a male. So compete with males. Just like u can have any religion u wish, but u still gotta compete against men and you can't exclude or include them on basis of religion, same dictum applies for sports.

 

But it isn't the case because liberals and leftists are proven to be orders of magnitude worse misogynistic rapers than asian pagans and this is western misogyny against women's rights. 

As west is the rape capital of the world. 

 

Cis women with whatever level of natural testosterone are female, so they are entitled to compete in women's sports. Transwomen with zero testosterone are not female, so excluded from women's sports.

 

Just like you can't go steal medals from children as adults and wave age requirement for junior sports, even if adult is 80 year old weak grandpa compared to 16 year old Mushtandaa, same logic applies to your idiot males who think they are females. 

 

Men don't become women of they have same testosterone as women. 

 

Notice how peddler of western rape and misogyny culture deliberately leaves our the most obvious moral answer : trans people aren't excluded from sports, just that being trans becomes irrelevant and you get to play in your sex category. 

 

 

Why is that not an option ? Because raper liberals of the west don't want an obvious solution, they want solution that gaslight women and puts them at risk due to raper culture of savage westerners. 

Edited February 22, 2025 by Muloghonto