Incest relations in Aamir Khan's Family???

[punjabi_khota]

How do you think Islam has spread so much? Islam encourages: 1: No family planning (have as many kids as possible) 2: Using condom is haraam 3: upto 4 wives -- to ensure maximum no. of offsprings 4: Law that muslim men can marry non muslim girls and they will have to convert to islam, however Muslim girls CAN NOT marry a non muslim guy w/o the guy converting to islam 1st ....hence: the goal here is to preserve islam There are currently 250 million muslims in India ALONE! now add the muslims of bangladesh and pakistan together...since several yrs ago this was one giant country. so 250 million + 160 million(pak)+150 million (bd)= 560 million muslims in the region approx and growing. India has 800 million hindus....in next 25 yrs....indian muslim pop will grow to 300-350 million, Hindus will come down to 650... this is the reality.... 1st place to be muslim majority ...would be bombay since all hindu girls in bombay marry musilms anyway.... just look at tv and film industry. P.S.. I thought Imran's mother was married to a bong name Anil pal...but they divorced several years ago. In an interview...Imran said....his last name should be "pal" but since they divorced...he uses "khan" .....Imran's mother is married to Raj Zutsi

Hahahahahahahahahahahaaha.....DUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB... mumbai ki population is 1.5 crore...famous film industry and tv actors/producers=barely 100 :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha: ALSO, MUSLIM POPULATION IN INDIA IS 150 MILLION..NOT 250 MILLION..super crappy post tex1des

[amits]

yusuf pathan cant marry his step-sister according to islam. and their family would have never thought about that as well

[flamy]

yusuf pathan cant marry his step-sister according to islam. and their family would have never thought about that as well

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[Kriterion]

dude islam not only condones incet marriage but encourages it.. hihnduism otoh discourages it ( some still practice andthey arr goign agsint scripture).. So from which angle u find both example same , please enlighten me..

islam allows cousin marriage, but does not encourage it. in the same manner in which islam allows polygamy, and doesn't encourage it. actually polygamy is discouraged.

[Rajiv]

But in Hinduism, its OK to marry second cousin, isn't it?

[theguyinallblue]

arre..No direct relations is allowed in Sanatan Dharam... and in some states Like Haryana.. people discourage the same village marriage.. and many communities do not marry in same Gotra.. as they are supposed to have same forefathers..

[Guest dada_rocks]

But in Hinduism' date=' its OK to marry second cousin, isn't it?[/quote'] Big fat noooooooooooooooooooooo.. You have to very very far that's why Gotra matching is done

[Guest dada_rocks]

islam allows cousin marriage' date=' but does not encourage it. in the same manner in which islam allows polygamy, and doesn't encourage it. actually polygamy is discouraged.[/quote'] It does encourage and even gives religious browny points since it's a Sunna .. I don;t need to explain what is sunnah..

[Rajiv]

But whats wrong with 2nd cousin, there's no direct relation right? For eg.,Father/Mothers cousin's son or daughter ..and what is gotra? Sanatan Dharam

[punjabi_khota]

It does encourage and even gives religious browny points since it's a Sunna .. I don;t need to explain what is sunnah..

As far as I understand, polygamy was encouraged in early days of Islam. But the logic behind it was that there was to make sure women got adequate means to live happily. If a man could keep more than one woman happy, he was allowed to do it. It made sense because women were not allowed/encouraged to work and hence had no choice but to be completely dependent of their husbands. But that logic no longer applies since women are treated on equal terms and ideally have equal opportunities to succeed in life.

[Rajiv]

Hindu Marriage Acts Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 The Hindu Marriage Act, which came into power on18 May 1955, governs all the Hindu marriages. The Act has reformed the Hindu law of marriage and covers entire India except the state of Jammu & Kashmir. Applicability Only if both the parties are Hindus can the marriage take place under the Hindu marriage Act. The Act applies to : * Any person who is Hindu, Buddhist, Jain or Sikh by religion. * Any person who is born to Hindu parents. * Any person who is not a Muslim Christian, Parsi or Jew, and who is not governed by any other law. The Act does not apply: * · To persons who are Muslims, Christians, Parsis or Jews by religion. * · To members of the scheduled tribes coming within the meaning of clause (25) of Article 366 of the Constitution of India unless the Central Government by notice otherwise directs. Conditions of a Hindu Marriage A marriage to be valid has to fulfill the following conditions: 1. Neither party should have a spouse living at the time of marriage. The spouse does not include a divorced husband/ wife. 2. At the time of marriage, the parties should be capable of giving a valid consent to the marriage. A person who is of a sound mind shall be considered to be a person capable to give a valid consent. Neither party, though capable of giving a valid consent should be suffering from mental disorder of such a kind or to such an extent as to be unfit for marriage and procreation of children. Neither party should be suffering from recurrent attacks of insanity or epilepsy. 3. The bridegroom should have attained the age of 21 years and the bride should have attained the age of 18 years at the time of marriage. 4. The parties should not be within the degrees of prohibited relationships, unless the customs or usage, permits such a marriage. Two persons are said to be within the degrees of prohibited relationships : 1. If one is a lineal ascendant of the other. For example a Daughter can not marry her father and grandfather. Similarly, a mother can not marry her son or grandson. 2. If one was the wife or husband of a lineal ascendant or descendant of the other. For example, a son can not marry his stepmother. Similarly, a person can not marry his Daughter-in -Law or son -in-law. 3. If one was the wife of the brother or of the father's or mother's brother or the grandfather's or grandmother's brother of the other. 4. If the two are brother and sister; uncle and niece; Aunt and Nephew or children of brother and sister of two brothers or two sisters. It must have been noticed in some communities the marriage with the wife of the brother and mother's brother and the first cousins are solemnized, those marriages, in the absence of a custom in the community are not valid marriages. 5. A person can not marry upto his second cousin from the mother's side and upto his fourth cousin from the side of the father. It is also necessary the parties should not be apindas of each other from either side. Never knew this

[Rajiv]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442646.stm Your views: Cousin marriage The Labour MP for Keighley, Ann Cryer, has called for an end to the practice of cousin marriage. She argues that the health risks to children born into such partnerships must be addressed like any other public health issue. Mrs Cryer told Newsnight: "I think the sooner we start to have a debate, we start to encourage the Asian community to address it themselves by saying we have to stop this tradition of first cousin marriages." British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with genetic disorders than the general population

[sandtest]

5. A person can not marry upto his second cousin from the mother's side and upto his fourth cousin from the side of the father. It is also necessary the parties should not be apindas of each other from either side. Never knew this

Good find Raajeev. I am happy that Hindu marraige act keeps the ethos and reflections of Manu-Smriti intact. The matching of "kundalli" (or Ganna) is nothing but making sure that "Gotra" is not the same and ensure that Rashis of bride-groom do not cross each other. In fact, Gotras can't macth if the couple belong to same lineage, this is enough proof of incest marraige being discouraged.

[sandtest]

This once again brings back my old criticism of Nehruvian legacy of partitioning India by providing seperate laws to seperate communities. I hear, that in democartic countries like USA more than one marraige at a time is not allowed, while in India a certain community based on it's religious doctrine, is allowed to keep upto four. As Arun Shouries said aptly -- this is Shariah in disguise, practiced under the veil of secularism and tolerance.

[sandtest]

..and what is gotra? Sanatan Dharam

Gotra is a nomenclature system through which a person can trace ancestory. For example, your ancestors-lineage will have a "gotra" name and that name may be the same for someone else who is not even remotely known to you. But "gotras" being the same means that at some generations in past your ancestors were from same family. Every "varna" has their own Gotra. for example, Varna like Brahmin, kshatriya, Vysya etc. will have their own list of Gotras. I can give example of mine, beaing a Brahmin, our Gotras are given the nomenclature with seven Rishis (the knower of Brahm--the absolute) or "Saptarishi". My gotra name is "Bhardwaaj", the other being Vishwamitra, Jamdagni, Kashyap, vashishta, Atri etc. -- all refer to a Rishis.:-D Similiary Kashtriya, Vysya etc. have their own clan/gotra names.

[jf1gp_1]

its a common practice in Hindus from southern India as well. One of my teacher had married his sisters daughter.

[Guest dada_rocks]

Hindu Marriage Acts Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 The Hindu Marriage Act, which came into power on18 May 1955, governs all the Hindu marriages. The Act has reformed the Hindu law of marriage and covers entire India except the state of Jammu & Kashmir. Applicability Only if both the parties are Hindus can the marriage take place under the Hindu marriage Act. The Act applies to : * Any person who is Hindu, Buddhist, Jain or Sikh by religion. * Any person who is born to Hindu parents. * Any person who is not a Muslim Christian, Parsi or Jew, and who is not governed by any other law. The Act does not apply: * · To persons who are Muslims, Christians, Parsis or Jews by religion. * · To members of the scheduled tribes coming within the meaning of clause (25) of Article 366 of the Constitution of India unless the Central Government by notice otherwise directs. Conditions of a Hindu Marriage A marriage to be valid has to fulfill the following conditions: 1. Neither party should have a spouse living at the time of marriage. The spouse does not include a divorced husband/ wife. 2. At the time of marriage, the parties should be capable of giving a valid consent to the marriage. A person who is of a sound mind shall be considered to be a person capable to give a valid consent. Neither party, though capable of giving a valid consent should be suffering from mental disorder of such a kind or to such an extent as to be unfit for marriage and procreation of children. Neither party should be suffering from recurrent attacks of insanity or epilepsy. 3. The bridegroom should have attained the age of 21 years and the bride should have attained the age of 18 years at the time of marriage. 4. The parties should not be within the degrees of prohibited relationships, unless the customs or usage, permits such a marriage. Two persons are said to be within the degrees of prohibited relationships : 1. If one is a lineal ascendant of the other. For example a Daughter can not marry her father and grandfather. Similarly, a mother can not marry her son or grandson. 2. If one was the wife or husband of a lineal ascendant or descendant of the other. For example, a son can not marry his stepmother. Similarly, a person can not marry his Daughter-in -Law or son -in-law. 3. If one was the wife of the brother or of the father's or mother's brother or the grandfather's or grandmother's brother of the other. 4. If the two are brother and sister; uncle and niece; Aunt and Nephew or children of brother and sister of two brothers or two sisters. It must have been noticed in some communities the marriage with the wife of the brother and mother's brother and the first cousins are solemnized, those marriages, in the absence of a custom in the community are not valid marriages. 5. A person can not marry upto his second cousin from the mother's side and upto his fourth cousin from the side of the father. It is also necessary the parties should not be apindas of each other from either side. Never knew this

Hindu marriage act is not hindu scripture.. obviously that act has made room for un-scripture like practice prevalent in certain section fo hindu population but I will repeat again cousin marriage is not allowed as per hindu scripture...

[DomainK]

Gotra is a nomenclature system through which a person can trace ancestory. For example, your ancestors-lineage will have a "gotra" name and that name may be the same for someone else who is not even remotely known to you. But "gotras" being the same means that at some generations in past your ancestors were from same family. Every "varna" has their own Gotra. for example, Varna like Brahmin, kshatriya, Vysya etc. will have their own list of Gotras. I can give example of mine, beaing a Brahmin, our Gotras are given the nomenclature with seven Rishis (the knower of Brahm--the absolute) or "Saptarishi". My gotra name is "Bhardwaaj", the other being Vishwamitra, Jamdagni, Kashyap, vashishta, Atri etc. -- all refer to a Rishis.:-D Similiary Kashtriya, Vysya etc. have their own clan/gotra names.

We are brothers.:omg:

[Kriterion]

It does encourage and even gives religious browny points since it's a Sunna .. I don;t need to explain what is sunnah..

the precise stipulation, as per the quranic scripture, is that one may take multiple wives, only if he is certain that he can treat them all equally. suffice it to say that most polygamous men (one can easily argue men in general) are quick to read that which giveth, only to ignore that which taketh away. for example quran 4:3 states the following:

If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

[The Outsider]

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