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Posted
14 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Indian domestic pitches are slow turners...trundling makes shot making difficult. Bowling fast makes it easier for the batters to time the bowl as there is zero movement/help for the quick pacers.

 

Also, a 140-150k pacer has higher chances of injury than a 120-130k trundler. Domestic teams often prefers workhorses who can play games after games and share the new ball...while after 15-17 overs, anyway its just the spinners who will bowl at both ends.

 

Basically the habit which we ingrained after the partition or say from the era of fab 4 (Bedi, Prasanna, Venkat & Chandra), its still continues in Indian domestic cricket. Its the "by default", "out of the box" setup, changing which requires passion and effort.

Bowlers have to be quick off the pitch bit like Akash deep who has decent pace. Watch the first dismissal. After pitching ball just skids on to the batsmen. For brook dismissal he bowled at 130kph

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

You are right ... and we all know this.

 

Do you know why the Indian cricket system likes these kinds of moderately skilled medium pacers ?

 

 

 

Nt saying know the exact answer but the answer is multifold::

 

In all the academies mostly the coach is batter, so v.little understanding of fast bowling.

No parent wands their kids to go to academy and bowl they want then to bat 

Getting naturally tall bowlers is not easy

And then little to no understanding and the trap that skills matter pace does not matter.Any one learning to bowl is told to bowl full and let batters make the mistake , so they donot develop much skill.

 

Hence moderate skilled bowler get through the ranks as long as it feels like a bowler is accurate they get through in the system , pace zip  bounce does not matter.

And with the standrads of domestic batting a little bit of accuracy and little bit of skill is enough to get wkts. 

 

Compare Agarkar and Kamboj-- Agarkar had 1 skill (out swing) but he was relatively fast but never understood how to use it be accurate and was always expensive offering too much room to the batter , now a Kamboj he looks accurate does not give width looks more accurate.

 

The thing is most bowlers from anywhere are moderately skilled but are selected based on 3 things pace/bounce and zip and then add newer skills and refine the existing once , but in Ind they do not select such bowlers and they always remain mediocre and their best is not good enough. 

 

 

 

 

Edited by tapandrun
Posted
9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Bowlers have to be quick off the pitch bit like Akash deep who has decent pace. Watch the first dismissal. After pitching ball just skids on to the batsmen. For brook dismissal he bowled at 130kph

 

 

Akashdeep, Mukesh Chaudhary are some of the exceptions which can skid the bowl even on a dead pitch.

But majority simply float the ball at a gingerly speed.

Posted
15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Akashdeep, Mukesh Chaudhary are some of the exceptions which can skid the bowl even on a dead pitch.

But majority simply float the ball at a gingerly speed.

Also England figured out Akashdeep after this game.  They found a way to tackle his skiddy in dippers and protected their front pad

Posted
28 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Also England figured out Akashdeep after this game.  They found a way to tackle his skiddy in dippers and protected their front pad

 

I think it was more to do with they played with hardly any gap. 2nd test was over on july 6th. Next test started on july 10th. India bowled. His pace was down a bit.

Posted
34 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Gandul and Assdeep getting new ball over Gurnoor again while NZ is defending a small total.

Project Kamboj 

 

They want a justification to select Kamboj 

Posted
35 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

21 topon ki salami to coaching staff

Only some people are getting excited by seeing Gurnoor, Tyagi, Ashok, Mayank.

 

The real deal are Kamboj, Keverappa,Nidiesh, 110 to 120 kmph bowling, medium height, gingerly run-up, no pressure on wicket keeperto be alert, fielder are mostly relaxed.

 

The feel is of a Sunday morning leisure,relax environment 

Posted
7 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Project Kamboj 

 

They want a justification to select Kamboj 

They will pick him for nz series but most likely he will flop again 

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