He still hasnt given up!

[Willow_on_fire]

Haha. Gandhuly

Hello bro, I would never dis-respect Ganguly. even though some losers here call Yuvi names...still being a UV fan myself...I also respect the fact that both UV and Bhajji are in the Indian team today bcoz of Ganguly...and to some extent SRT has backed Bhajji as well.

[cowboysfan]

I am sorry but that is a horrible attitude-thank god he is not the captain anymore-that would set a very bad precedent.he should be ashamed to even say it.

[punjabi_khota]

its just another lame interview... soem dude prob begged him to answer some qs so he can get paid.. so dada gave him some answerson how he defines fitness...:-D not big... we at icf r waiting for tests to get started, and r just posting anything we can find to pass time :icflove:

No one ever seems to apply the same logic to Yuvi and Bhajji's interviews. Just saying.

[suraj]

y r u laughing? the man is respected...ppl like U TRY to bring him down.. but not gonna happen man led the team for years and won places indian team had never dreamed about winning at your little poster boy u r so proud off... has done squat compared to what this man has done for indian cricket ;)

what are your accomlishments?? Comparing bad to worse??

[Willow_on_fire]

I am sorry but that is a horrible attitude-thank god he is not the captain anymore-that would set a very bad precedent.he should be ashamed to even say it.

when he gave UV and Bhajji chance to be in the team....they did win matches for him during his stint as a sucessesful Indian captain...:two_thumbs_up:

[cowboysfan]

when he gave UV and Bhajji chance to be in the team....they did win matches for him during his stint as a sucessesful Indian captain...:two_thumbs_up:

I am thankful for his captaincy but that was a irresponsible statement and inaccurate statement as well.He just shouldnt have said anything -really unfortunate.

[SachDan]

Stuart McGill was was probably the second best leg-spinner of his time, after Shane Warne. But he didnt find a place in the team, as long Warne was around. Did he go around continuously moaning about how he should have been in the team? QUOTE] "I would like to see that BMW crash one day!!" McGill on Warne to get a chance to play :D

[SachDan]

surprise surprise another anti ganguly thread by a non achieving couch potato [marirs mania] it amazes me irrelevant guys like the OP can have the cheek to belittle the greatest indian captain for issues like his views on fitness anyway for all ur barking his record as indias greatest captain will stay and most likely remainfor a long time:finger:

Wtf...an avid cricket follower criticizes a particular player.What's wrong with that?

[Texy]

Lame interview.....and lame interviewer.....

[King Tendulkar]

Stuart McGill was was probably the second best leg-spinner of his time, after Shane Warne.

WTF!!! What kind of statement is that. Ever heard of ANIL KUMBLE?

[beetle]

apparently it seems if someone says i do not want u here..u will just go away without a protest even if ur deserving.that is horseshit simply.dhoni doesn't want ganguly..so does it mean that ganguly will give up his hope ..of course not..he can hope and wish to come back..dhoni as long as he remains at helm can keep him out and when his LUCK and youth passes away..he will be chucked by the roadside ..as u sow so u reap

:two_thumbs_up: Dada is a real fighter.....Go dada!Keep it up!

[chanakya]

Ganguly may never get into the ODI team again. But if you expect him to quit, then you are looking at the wrong person.

[Fontaine]

The point isnt about the technicalities of what the term 'fitness' means. Its about a man who continues to openly campaign for his place in the ODI side, in an unabashed, relentless manner, despite knowing the fact that its a policy decision of the current team management and the selection committee to leave out older players. Every time Ganguly makes one of these press statements, its akin to him questioning the collective wisdom of people like Dhoni, Kirsten and the entire selection committee. Ironically, if people like Bhajji and Yuvraj make on-and-off statements about their place in the team, they get roundly criticized. But if Ganguly resorts to the same, most people resort to stoic silence. Why the double standards?

There are no double standards for me. Ganguly is a whiner, a complainer and constantly shifts responsibility away from himself. Forget the fact that there are better fielders and guys who are much more adept are running between the wickets than him. All he can count on is his batting and even then we're not missing him. Go complain somewhere else Ganguly.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Nothing wrong with what he said there. Cricket fitness is completely different from the usual concept of fitness which is bandied around so often - ie; the kind associated with lifting weights, building shredded muscles or having the stamina to run long distances. I have that second kind of fitness, but would i be able to bat 40 overs in the heat of the subcontinent during summer-time ? Definitely not. Guys like Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman hobble between the wickets but they have immense powers of concentration, ample skill and they can play long innings - they may not be gym-fit in the way i am, but they are in peak condition to play test cricket at the highest level. Look at guys like Shane Watson - the man is built like a brick sh ithouse; definitely gym-fit, but he has had an awful record with injuries since he first emerged in '02. He took a while to make it because he lacked the skills and that's what the sport is all about - skill. Being gym-fit won't help you play a mean cover-drive.

Shane watson is a fast bowler. shouldn't compare him with laxman, ganguly. by being gym-fit u will be able to perform better. you will build a lot of stamina. ever wonder why laxman doesn't take triples... because he cant run fast and he did not train properly before the match. Endurance is a key thing in sports, if your body cannot endure extreme conditions then you will obviously keep losing stamina. atheliticsm depends on what you are. Ganguly can straight drive because he might want to. But can he dive and stop a four? No he cannot, because he isn't atheletic. ever wonder why fencers bother to be supremely fit? You say that if they have the technique and concentration, they can win everything. But no, if they dont build a lot of stamina then thier body will not permit them to concentrate or plan the next move of the opposite guy. If u want to concentrate in a physical sport, your body and mind needs to be fresh for longer durations. If an unfit person who has technique attempts physical sport, then he will get tired easily. It all comes to ur cardio vascular system. If your system cant pump blood continously at a specific rate then automatically it will result in mental fatigue. which will lead to loss in concentration. If an unfit ganguly could score 10K+ runs... imagine what a supremely fit ganguly would have dished out.

[CSK Fan]

If only media interviews equated to comebacks, Ganguly would be the greatest fighter of all time. Why do players think that they have to win the media war and popular sentiments and they will be back in the team even with the same shortcomings? And to think that these guys hjave the example of Sachin to follow on how to conduct oneself off and on the field and how to let the bat do the talking!

[Chorazin Reto]

I think fitness is key in the modern era, pointing at the Boon's of yesteryear when ODI's were becoming more and more professional is grasping at straws. You can take people from both sides of the fence even in that era, Viv Richards was very fit and muscular and performed well. The fitness issue especially shows in the quicker formats ODI's and T20's, i even look at Hayden some days and think, is he fit enough to be out there? Even tho looking at him im pretty confident he works on his fitness, but hes playing against some ppl 15 years+ younger than him. Or Jayasuriya's last innings, he just looked like he ran out of steam around the 100 mark. Being muscular does not equate to fitness, you would have a degree of fitness but true fitness comes from your cardio capacity, long distance runners certainly dont want to be lugging around excess muscle mass whislt running a marathon. I think Cricket lies somewhere in the middle, Warne was too fat(thus the illegal diuretic pills to lose his fatass weight quickly rather than actually dieting and exercising) you need a degree of explosive muscle power mixed with fitness, so you wont be looking like Schwarzenegger when he won Mr Universe, or opposed to this, like a Kenyan marathon runner who has 3% body fat and minimal muscle mass. But i dont see how some(no not Schwarzenegger amounts) gym built muscle mass(and power) could hinder your game.

[Mr. Wicket]

Ironically' date=' if people like Bhajji and Yuvraj make on-and-off statements about their place in the team, they get roundly criticized. But if Ganguly resorts to the same, most people resort to stoic silence. Why the double standards?[/quote'] What double standards? Ganguly's last run in the ODI team saw him produce runs with some consistency, even if it was at a slow rate. But - as the scorebooks indicate - he produced runs, and showed he CAN perform certain roles at international level. His present run in the test team is going great with him standing up as one of the frontline batsmen and runscorers of the side. If he talks, he has form to back it up. He has recent performances on his side, and plenty of history boosting his claim to play ODIs - as one of the finest ODI batsmen India has produced and someone who is still making runs at the top level. If he talks, he can back it up - he's shown as much. When Yuvraj shows he can captain a side well without putting his focus onto parties or press conferences, when Yuvraj shows he can consistently produce runs at f/c level in all situations, and when Bhajji learns how to bowl correctly on different surfaces and take wicket in all conditions, they'll be accorded the same respect as Ganguly. Otherwise they'll do well to STFU and actually perform. As far as his statement on fitness goes, he's dead on. Anyne else remember the 04 Chennai test v. Aus? Brutal heat, stifling humidity. Uber-fit Mohammad Kaif played, scored a fifty and promptly collapsed with cramps. Not-so-uber-fit Virender Sehwag (also called Motu by some insightful brain on this board) batted hours to belt 155 without ever wilting. That and Pred's example about Watson (and his tendency to keep breaking down while building himself up in the gym) prove his point.

[Chorazin Reto]

cramps can affect anyone regardless of fitness level, and as for Watson he has had bad luck with injuries yes, but to point at the fact that he is physically fit and muscular as the cause is grasping at straws. It's like saying Indian bowlers with more Necklaces are better, i know this because of Sreesanth and Ishant Sharma!!!!!111

[DomainK]

Dada was one of the best things to happen to Indian cricket. His contribution was instrumental. But times have changed and so have the needs of the team. I think the younger ODI team is a better concept. But I am sure he will bring a lot more to test cricket- the real cricket.

[Ram]

What double standards? Ganguly's last run in the ODI team saw him produce runs with some consistency, even if it was at a slow rate. But - as the scorebooks indicate - he produced runs, and showed he CAN perform certain roles at international level. His present run in the test team is going great with him standing up as one of the frontline batsmen and runscorers of the side. If he talks, he has form to back it up.. He has recent performances on his side, and plenty of history boosting his claim to play ODIs - as one of the finest ODI batsmen India has produced and someone who is still making runs at the top level. If he talks, he can back it up - he's shown as much. When Yuvraj shows he can captain a side well without putting his focus onto parties or press conferences, when Yuvraj shows he can consistently produce runs at f/c level in all situations, and when Bhajji learns how to bowl correctly on different surfaces and take wicket in all conditions, they'll be accorded the same respect as Ganguly. Otherwise they'll do well to STFU and actually perform. As far as his statement on fitness goes, he's dead on. Anyne else remember the 04 Chennai test v. Aus? Brutal heat, stifling humidity. Uber-fit Mohammad Kaif played, scored a fifty and promptly collapsed with cramps. Not-so-uber-fit Virender Sehwag (also called Motu by some insightful brain on this board) batted hours to belt 155 without ever wilting. That and Pred's example about Watson (and his tendency to keep breaking down while building himself up in the gym) prove his point.

So essentially, what you are saying is ' As long as a player can back-up his loud mouth statements with performances on the field, he can give how many ever provocative statements, that seem to openly question the wisdom and decsion making of the current coach, ODI captain and selection committee' ? Everyone who is supporting Ganguly needs get one thing clear first. Nobody is questioning his right to stake a claim in the ODI team. Why shouldnt he? After all, as it has been well highlighted in this thread itself, he had a decent stint the last time he was in the ODI team. But the WAY he is going about is what is irksome, using the media as a mouth piece to push forward his personal agenda. One can argue even Kumble and Dravid were premature sacked from the ODI team. Did they continuously whine and moan with the media ever since? Therein lies the difference between guys like Kumble, Dravid on one side and Ganguly on the other.