The Outsider Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 shwetabh you need to point out which part deals with religious debate this nonsensical oneupmanship via deletion of threads as per our whims is not helping anyone.. Will you guys accept my explanation? No, so what's the point? But FWIW, generalizing to say all Muslim Kashmiris were instrumental in what happened, calling them all screwed up is distasteful to say the least and is on direct contradiction of the religion bashing embargo.
punjabi_khota Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Will you guys accept my explanation? No' date=' so what's the point? But FWIW, generalizing to say all Muslim Kashmiris were instrumental in what happened, calling them all screwed up is distasteful to say the least and is on direct contradiction of the religion bashing embargo.[/quote'] The fact is, nothing of that scale can be done without local support. Whether that support comes due to sympathy or force, can be debated. Similar was the case in Punjab insurgency.:nervous:
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Will you guys accept my explanation? No' date=' so what's the point? But FWIW, generalizing to say all Muslim Kashmiris were instrumental in what happened, calling them all screwed up is distasteful to say the least and is on direct contradiction of the religion bashing embargo.[/quote'] We have proven that fact anyway that's not religin bashing that's political point whihc we have proven and u refuse to accept... Just because u are mod u can;t cook up rules and delete the view u don;t agree with...... heck Oma Abdullah too thinks kashmirs in general were party to that genocide.. NOW u can go techincal and ask have it been polled but we all know that's nit-picking.. Omar Abdullah have not been fried or booked under any law for expressing that view as a pubic figure so why are u so hellbent on suppressing that fact.. Bottomline that is no religion bashing... To me it sounds llike since I am the mod so I will delete anything I don't like... I guess BB too could have done what u are doing but he has done the right thing and taken himself off the mod panel because he holds some serious views .. i guess time is ripe for leftist psec brigade hitmen to either show that kind of maganimity or at least lie lw and don't go around dleteing posts whimsically.....
The Outsider Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 The fact is' date=' nothing of that scale can be done without local support. Whether that support comes due to sympathy or force, can be debated. Similar was the case in Punjab insurgency.:nervous:[/quote'] So it's a fair call to say all Sikhs are screwed up?
The Outsider Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 DR, I made a judgement call and soft deleted the post leaving the option for it to be reinstated by other mods if they feel it was an OTT deletion. What's unfair about that?
punjabi_khota Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 So it's a fair call to say all Sikhs are screwed up? Not all, but more than just a handful, as you would like us to believe in case of Muslims. :giggle: I know it is THE pseudo secularist slogan "Hey look..its just a bunch of Mullahs doing the damage. An ordinary Muslim is super clean". That is pure BULLSHIT and you know it too. Now that the whole country is being attacked, and the fact that almost all of the mother ****ers doing it are homebred (Vs nineties Kashmir violence that was mostly perpetrated by Neighbours), it is SUPER difficult to believe the pseudo secularist theory anymore. Loads of muslim youths travel to Iran and then to Pak/BD, get training and come back. Their parents/family knows everything they are doing, but remain quitet. All of them are responsible. As were the Sikh families in 80s. We should try the Israeli method once. Whenever there is suicide attack or these mofos are shot dead, bury them with pigs. Then they won't be going to heaven anyways. And 72 virgins remain virgins. If we catch them alive, shoot them and then bury them with pigs.
The Outsider Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 I am not asking you to believe anything. I just deleted a post which was clearly insinuating an entire community and had all potential to flame up tempers. I would have done the same if any other community was being insinuated as a whole because such distasteful posts do nothing but flare up tempers and lead to an abuse fest.
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 That doesn;t fall under religious debate category. what sisnext if I post omar abdullah's story u will delet that because u don;t want anythign which goes against the bubble-world u are lliving in.. That's whY i asked once to everyone just post fuuuccking rules whihc demands what post sud be delted as sticky thread so that everyone knows what is kosher and what is not but intellectualy dishinest ones who like to cook up rules to support their views and suppress others found it little too hard to make that public... anyway if this kind of nonsense continues we are for rough ride as long as we are here........ it's going to get ugly pretty soon.... and that will be shame...
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 BTW those who were chming in it's fake scare blast and may eb BJP has done it .. has your blood thirst satiated now 30 dead should not be Advani with bomb now I guess..
The Outsider Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 That doesn;t fall under religious debate category. Calling an entire Muslim community screwed up is pretty religious in my judgement and if the other mods think otherwise they are going to reinstate the post and I'll accept I made an incorrect call. You guys are just getting paranoid because I hold a different view from yours but the action is not based on any bias. Heck, I hardly even participate in any political/religious discussions anymore for many months now.
punjabi_khota Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Calling an entire Muslim community screwed up is pretty religious in my judgement and if the other mods think otherwise they are going to reinstate the post and I'll accept I made an incorrect call. You guys are just getting paranoid because I hold a different view from yours but the action is not based on any bias. Heck' date=' I hardly even participate in any political/religious discussions anymore for many months now.[/quote'] You just hold the 'hip' view.
punjabi_khota Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 ^ Haha. Is Shwetabh the only mod ..why doesn't any one else come in ?
punjabi_khota Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 He is also a renowned Ivory towerist. I am on my way to become one. Doesn't mean jack **** to me when talking about these matters.
Texy Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 OMG we are so damn busy in discussing rules and regulations and what to post and what's appropriate and somehow upholding the moral/gandhian brigade but not discussing what happened and all the lives that has been lost.
coffee_rules Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I think the ruling congress is behind these blasts. Coincidently, both are BJP run states. There has been a lot of blasts now because of al-qaeda or SIMI or some BD run terrorisits. It is very easy to take this situation to your advantage and congress has been known in that past to take advantage of such violence for political gains. Whatever it is , it is because of bloddy politicians...
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Calling an entire Muslim community screwed up is pretty religious in my judgement and if the other mods think otherwise they are going to reinstate the post and I'll accept I made an incorrect call. You guys are just getting paranoid because I hold a different view from yours but the action is not based on any bias. Heck' date=' I hardly even participate in any political/religious discussions anymore for many months now.[/quote'] HE is calling muslim of kahsmir what Omar Abdullah has confirmed.. I am sure indian laws are more vigilant than your cooked-up scale of right or wrong.. Last time I checked there is no proceedings agisnt omar for those words
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I think the ruling congress is behind these blasts. Coincidently' date=' both are BJP run states. There has been a lot of blasts now because of al-qaeda or SIMI or some BD run terrorisits. It is very easy to take this situation to your advantage and congress has been known in that past to take advantage of such violence for political gains. Whatever it is , it is because of bloddy politicians...[/quote'] In my view that's equally stupid sentiment as the BJp-blame.. Yes this certainly is fruit of psec brigade's appeasment politics but to say they organized these would be stupid and uncalled for
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 OMG we are so damn busy in discussing rules and regulations and what to post and what's appropriate and somehow upholding the moral/gandhian brigade but not discussing what happened and all the lives that has been lost. That's more important I guess you are new here wud learn these things in course of time
Desi Cartman Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 When politicians/criminals like Pappu Yadav are allowed to leave the jail so they could vote in the parliament , when people elect MPs like Yadav or other criminals , when politicians show bundles of money in the parliament , when MPs stand up to say we support this govt cuz they have done something for muslims , Jews , Hindus or Dalits etc ... then these things become easier to organize. The terrorists or the DUSHMAN nation knows that we are too busy with saving or bringing our govt down by all means so who is looking after the security etc ? Its pathetic that criminals are a part of the Indian govt , illiterates are running the country and MPs take pride in what how their community has benefited from something ... who is looking after the country if I may ask ? Why is it that the central govt has come out within 24 hrs of each blast to suggest that the state was warned before ? Is this shifting blame ? Shameful .. its all about votes and money !
Holysmoke Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 AHMEDABAD: With back-to-back terror attacks in Bangalore and Ahmedabad marking a break from the terrorists' pattern of allowing time to lapse between two attacks, the Centre is preparing for a far more intense challenge than it had so far faced from jehadis. The Centre decided to convene a meeting of police chiefs of all states, while sounding the alert against more attacks across the country. If this was part of a routine drill, officials acknowledged that the blasts in BJP-ruled states marked a serious escalation of the terror threat. They pointed out that the attacks on hospitals and trauma centres resembled tactics used by Al-Qaida in Iraq. Preliminary indications pointed to the involvement of SIMI activists from Maharashtra. The email from Indian Mujahideen which reached the media five minutes before the first of the 17 bombs went off in Ahmedabad, was sent from the Yahoo mail account of alarbi_ gujarat through an internet connection used in the name of Camp Kell White. The IP address was traced to one Kenith Heywood, C-1503/1504 Gunina CHS Plot, Sector 2&3, 16 A, Sampada, Mumbai. Investigators suspect the sender could be living at the Mumbai address as a tenant. But the Maharashtra connection was also brought out by references to local incidents in Maharashtra - at Jalna, Yavatmal as well as the alleged humliation of Muslims on Western Railways. While there is no evidence yet to suggest that the attacks on Bangalore and Ahmedabad in a space of 24 hours were deliberately timed - the email from Indian Mujahideen makes no mention of the Bangalore blasts - the consecutive attacks on the capitals of two BJP-ruled states certainly shows refreshed intent. Intelligence agencies are not rushing to hazard guesses about the specific jehadi outfit for which the perpetrators of Bangalore and Jaipur blasts could be working. But they are reasonably sure that the logistical support for those who struck in Ahmedabad, just as in the case of Jaipur, came from activists of SIMI. Apart from the similarities - use of cycles as well as explosives other than RDX - between blasts in the BJP-ruled states, there are other reasons for the agencies to look for the SIMI connection. The email from Indian Mujahideen cites arrests of SIMI activists in Indore - a crippling blow to the fundamentalist organisation. Significantly, the email also takes great pains to emphasize the alleged local origin of the gang that attacked Ahmedabad on Saturday. "We the terrorists of India - the Indian Mujahideen - the militia of Islam whose each and every Mujahid belongs to this very soil of India, have returned to execute the compulsion of Allah".
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