Tendulkar should consider quitting - Ian Chappell

[rahulrulezz]

Hello jolly good fellow. I really did not have intentions to go down this road but since you make thos points. Let's do some number crunching. From 5-Apr-04 to 26-Dec-06 , he averaged 25 runs, excluding series against Bangladesh. From 5-Apr-04 to 26-Dec-07, he averaged 30 runs, excluding series against Bangladesh. That's when this thread was made I think. So he averaged 25 for 1.5 years and 30 for 2.5 years. Now you tell me if he was out of form or not.

You do have a point.. Sachin was indeed out of form and I still remember the most infamous 200 in the history of Cricket against Bangladesh where he took forever to score runs against that crap bangladeshi bowling lineup... but every player goes through bad phase and I am glad Sachin already passed through his.. Now we will only see golden period of Sachin

[Sachinism]

HariSampath.

:nervous: Should I change my avatar :nervous:

[SRT PWNS]

Dont indulge in personal remarks. What is nonsense about it? It is fully related to this article so that you can understand the circumstances of the article. Dont shoot the messenger here.

You are attempting the same crap Patriot, Pakis, Punter loves etc have done before and miserably failed. You will eat those words off SRT's bat if you haven't already... so GTFO

[vvvslaxman]

Wrath,, you are like a moth. The very reason this over the top article written by Chappell was because of Greg Chappell. That is when there was a feud between Sachin and Greggie. Right after that fight he wrote this piece. To his convenience Sachin was going through a rough patch.

[teacup]

I am not a hater of Sachin. I just said that he was out of form for a couple of years and most other players would have been kicked out of the side if they averaged such low for about 2 years. Then you smarty jolly fellow, came and said that he played few good knocks during that perioud. Then mister, pappu kangi quoted my out of form statement and said Tendulkar getting nervous nineties. Only then I pulled out the stats. And I dont see why its so offensive to pull out the facts (hopefully calculated correct) and present them. Why do I become a hater because I showed that Tendulkar went through a really bad phase. That's what this thread is on anyways and it helps to understand why Chappel may have been alluding to. And presenting this phase should not make me a hater as Sachin is my favorite player. But what's wrong with telling the truth? And I understand cricket because I have watched 100's of matches and even played in 100's of matches myself.

I agree with that highlighted statement above but do you agree that some players, especially someone with a record like Sachin's, deserve more chances than others? If yes, then why bother stating the obvious?

[wrath]

You are attempting the same crap Patriot' date=' Pakis, Punter loves etc have done before and miserably failed. You will eat those words off SRT's bat if you haven't already... so GTFO[/quote'] First go learn how to read and learn how to argue. Or let me respond in the language you understand. Dear friend dont be so impulsive, your post is nothing but a 3-year old's rant. Go drink your milk. Thanks for all your rants and impulsive thoughtless posts. None of you could provide any arguement whatsoever apart from rahulrulez. The reason is because I presented a fact, not an opinion. Hurling out expletives is not going to win you any points, it just shows you as an uneducated jaahil without any knowledge. All you had to do was accept the fact and come up with a response which made Sachin Tendulkar even greater. I thought someone would bring it up but nothing.. nada.. only rants and name calling. So the way to respond was something like this : learn and read I agree that Sachin Tendulkar had lost form for a couple of years and averaged a mere 25-30 in Test matches. But the adage, form is temporary and class is permanent, is proven true by the one and only Sachin Tendulkar. The fighting spirit and will power in the man is exceptional as he turned around one of the lowest periods into his game as a spark, a driving force to excel even further. When the chips are down, it is a test of the character of the person and Tendulkar delivered in the end. It is also to be noted that Tendulkar was playing very unTendulkar like and playing defensive cricket.

[pappu_kanghi]

First go learn how to read and learn how to argue. Or let me respond in the language you understand. Dear friend dont be so impulsive, your post is nothing but a 3-year old's rant. Go drink your milk. Thanks for all your rants and impulsive thoughtless posts. None of you could provide any arguement whatsoever apart from rahulrulez. The reason is because I presented a fact, not an opinion. Hurling out expletives is not going to win you any points, it just shows you as an uneducated jaahil without any knowledge. All you had to do was accept the fact and come up with a response which made Sachin Tendulkar even greater. I thought someone would bring it up but nothing.. nada.. only rants and name calling. So the way to respond was something like this : learn and read I agree that Sachin Tendulkar had lost form for a couple of years and averaged a mere 25-30 in Test matches. But the adage, form is temporary and class is permanent, is proven true by the one and only Sachin Tendulkar. The fighting spirit and will power in the man is exceptional as he turned around one of the lowest periods into his game as a spark, a driving force to excel even further. When the chips are down, it is a test of the character of the person and Tendulkar delivered in the end. It is also to be noted that Tendulkar was playing very unTendulkar like and playing defensive cricket.

So where are you from? :hehe:

[vvvslaxman]

There were lot of critics for Sachin at that point. They were all based on Sachin's inconsistent run for a stretch. But Ian's criticism was sudden, out of the blue and based heavily on how his brother's relation with Indian cricket and Tendulkar.

[EnterTheVoid]

Ravi, I think Sachin should quit ODIs as it is for younger people and he certainly won't play in 2011. So there is absolutely no point in continuing.

He must retrire from ODIs & focus on Tests. Two more Test series' date=' if he doesnt perform, adios, time to groom some youngsters.[/quote'] :hysterical: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpo-9BAtkdw&feature=related]YouTube- INDIA VS SRILANKA WORLD CUP 2007 AFTERMATHS[/ame] Douche bag presenter asking whether Sachin should be made captain :hysterical:

[SRT PWNS]

First go learn how to read and learn how to argue. Or let me respond in the language you understand. Dear friend dont be so impulsive, your post is nothing but a 3-year old's rant. Go drink your milk.

I don't know what language to respond to you because it doesn't look like you can comprehend much anyway. I'll simply say, you are just a new dog pulling the same old trick, you will fail just like the others before ex. Patriot. SRT will continue to make you all pay with the runs flowing off his bat.

[chetan0304]

:finger: STFU Ian!

[SRT PWNS]

:finger: STFU Ian!

Indeed, that double should be enough to eat his own words and keep his mouth shut for a long time.

[anbuchelvan]

:hysterical:Some body put something (foot) to make Ian silent.:hysterical:

[yoda]

He has proven many of us wrong. I never doubted his ODI supremacy. Personally for me, he was playing some poor test cricket post JLD 2004. He has come back rather brilliantly in that form of the game as well. Hats off to him and I am glad that he was able to be around to be a part of this winning team.

[virufan]

Ian eating his words already... Don't let your babies be fast bowlers Lee has quit Tests at 33, while Tendulkar, nearing 37, has a renewed urge to dominate bowlers. What message does this send to youngsters taking up the game? Ian Chappell February 28, 2010 If the well-known songwriting duo Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings were cricket fans, they would have added a phrase to the line from their popular hit: "Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys… or fast bowlers." On the same day that Brett Lee announced the termination of his Test appearances in an attempt to prolong his cricket career, a sprightly Sachin Tendulkar was adding to his glittering reputation by amassing a spectacular double-century, the first in one-day internationals. Lee, a genuine fast bowler, is 33. Tendulkar, a top-order batsman, is closing in on 37. Life expectancy may have dramatically improved since the 1960s but the medical advances don't apply to fast bowlers. In his illustrious Test career Dennis Lillee bowled nearly 2000 more deliveries than Lee. Tendulkar was in attendance when Lee commenced his 300-wicket Test career with a memorable bag of five at the MCG. The difference being, at that stage Tendulkar had already been around for 10 years and scored a career worth of centuries (he compiled his 22nd in that Test). Another decade on, and the batsman is still operating like a long-life battery while the fast bowler is rapidly approaching his use-by-date. The assumption could easily be made that mamas should let their babies grow up to be batsmen. Throughout his career Lee has displayed ample determination to recover from debilitating injuries. He always put in the hard work in the gym and on the running track to ensure each comeback was successful, but in the end a serious elbow injury was one operation too many. It's amazing that with so many setbacks he played his cricket with a ready smile and never a snarl. And despite all the pain and endless rehabilitation work, Lee still saw fit to hand out some important advice while announcing his Test career was over. At a time when fast bowlers such as Shane Bond and Shaun Tait are showing a distinct preference for the shortest (and most lucrative) version of the game, Lee has advocated that budding speedsters challenge themselves by playing Tests. Test cricket needs genuine pace bowlers to fully live up to its reputation of being the only thorough examination of a player. However, a youngster would be unwise to head down that career path if he doesn't possess a big heart, a capacity for hard work and a tolerance for pain. That's not to say batsmen don't also require a big heart and a strong work ethic. No one has spent more time on his batting than Tendulkar who still hits numerous practice shots in preparation for special performances like the one in Gwalior. When he was about the age Lee is now, it appeared Tendulkar's spectacular career was winding down. A series of injuries had robbed him of much of the sparkle that made his batting stand out above all but Brian Lara's. However, by gaining a second wind, Tendulkar has shown he has ample determination, a strong mind and a great desire to compete. It's not just the number of runs he's scored in this prolific period (although four Test centuries in six innings is pretty impressive); rather it's the manner of his run-gathering. In his scintillating 175 against Australia and the double-century that demolished South Africa, it was his dominance that stood out. Both innings rattled along at much better than a run-a-ball,s and when he is regularly punching drives off the back foot you know Tendulkar is master of all he surveys. The urge to dominate, which defined his little-maestro period, was replaced by a more tenacious Tendulkar in his thirties, but thankfully the urge to dictate to bowlers has resurfaced of late. Maybe with Virender Sehwag demolishing attacks he didn't feel the need to dominate. Whatever had been dragging on his batting reins was suddenly released for those two ODI innings and the little maestro made a couple of welcome reappearances. For a while it appeared certain Ricky Ponting would surpass Tendulkar's Test aggregate and maybe even his tally of centuries. Now that a revitalised Tendulkar has shown a renewed thirst for runs and dominance, that's far from a guarantee. However, if the cricketing mamas of this world ignore Lee's message and influence their young to eschew fast bowling, there's no guessing what massive run-making records a future batting maestro might accumulate.

[EnterTheVoid]

[CSK Fan]

when this thread was made, SRT was going thru quite a longer lean patch, why are some peeps here bumping threads like this two years later, SRT is in good form, we all are happy about it :two_thumbs_up: if Mumbai fans have booed SRT at wankhede in the past, it does mean that he was really struggling at that point, perhaps team was too much depending on him to win every match. plz give it a rest, atlest Ravi had the guts to speak his heart, many SRT fans were feeling disgusted at SRT's performance at 'that' time :icflove:

SRT' sperformances at 'that' time where no where close to being bad enough to deserve the criticism he got at that point. Ponting, Dravid, etc went thorugh worse periods recently without them being jumped on to the extent Sachin was. So those that stood by him at 'that' time deserve to crow at those eating humble pies now Heck, Sachin was called selfish, someone playing for records, a white elephant, etc. If you dont think those people deserve to be condemned then i dont have much to say. If SRT had been forced out of the team by some jealous people, we wouldnt have seen history being made in the last series

[vvvslaxman]

Ian has taken a sly dig at Sachin in this latest article. Lot of fast bowlers had a career spanning over a decade. Only those who were striving for absolute pace picked up more injuries.