Sooda Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 No they're not - it's pretty obvious that a white foreigner is more at risk for a sexual crime than a Chinese or Black. Because they are considered more attractive ? Anyway how many times has something like that happened, that once isnt it? Im not sure we can use that as an example, many brown skinned ladies might be getting raped in india so I doubt race has much to do with it. They are plenty of very nice looking dark ladies whom if we were to get proposals from, im sure the parents would not turn down. Im thinking Rani Mukherjee.:two_thumbs_up:
punjabi_khota Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Olive girls :woot: persians...:icflove::icflove:
Guest gaurav_indian Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 persians...:icflove::icflove: then who will marry punjabi khoti ?:((
pan_walla Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Gori gori oo ma ki chori kabhi mere ghar aya karo......
Ram Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Indians are not ‘racist’ in the true sense of the word, but we do discriminate HEAVILY on the basis of skin color, looks, religion, caste, language, wealth, social status and a whole host of other things. I have not come across any other society where grown-up men prostrate before other men and women, or a Godman’s followers keeps the palm of his hand in front of his mouth while speaking to make sure droplets of saliva that may accidentally come out of their mouth does not touch the Godman. That kind of blind worshipping, or placing another human on such a high pedestal like that can only happen in our society. Given all this tendency to be so ignorant, I can only imagine that if someday, our economy becomes so productive that foreign workers come in to work there, there would mass upheavals and attacks.
Kumble Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 1) India does not celebrate everyday just coz a person who is dark skinned has become the head of the country 2) Although, some not fair skinned gals are rejected for arranged marriages, one can find more number of fair-non fair couples in india than in any other western country 3) Every family in india has someone who is fair skinned and someoen who is not fair skinned 4) Color of the skin never replaces merit in india 5) Discrimination based on color of skin(race in fact) is worser than casteism, as the former cannot be hidden and the latter cannot be known atleast at sight Yes....globe trotting does give a chance to look at ourselves,but, we need not be ashamed of ourserlves
Lurker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Indians are not ‘racist’ in the true sense of the word' date=' but we do discriminate HEAVILY on the basis of skin color, looks, religion, caste, language, wealth, social status and a whole host of other things. I[b'] have not come across any other society where grown-up men prostrate before other men and women, or a Godman’s followers keeps the palm of his hand in front of his mouth while speaking to make sure droplets of saliva that may accidentally come out of their mouth does not touch the Godman. That kind of blind worshipping, or placing another human on such a high pedestal like that can only happen in our society. I have never quite understood why touching feet of any senior is considered wrong? What is wrong about it? You basically respect a person and the person gives his blessings. You dont want to do that, dont do it, whats with the whole "toe-touching culture has dragged us down". I have always been proud to touch seniors, mostly relatives, feet. It is nothing to be ashamed of. xxx
Lurker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Gori gori oo ma ki chori kabhi mere ghar aya karo...... Its baanke chore..as in suave chap. you make it sound like a gaali :giggle:
yoda Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 1) India does not celebrate everyday just coz a person who is dark skinned has become the head of the country 2) Although, some not fair skinned gals are rejected for arranged marriages, one can find more number of fair-non fair couples in india than in any other western country 3) Every family in india has someone who is fair skinned and someoen who is not fair skinned 4) Color of the skin never replaces merit in india 5) Discrimination based on color of skin(race in fact) is worser than casteism, as the former cannot be hidden and the latter cannot be known atleast at sight Yes....globe trotting does give a chance to look at ourselves,but, we need not be ashamed of ourserlves good post!
Ram Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 I have never quite understood why touching feet of any senior is considered wrong? What is wrong about it? You basically respect a person and the person gives his blessings. You dont want to do that, dont do it, whats with the whole "toe-touching culture has dragged us down". I have always been proud to touch seniors, mostly relatives, feet. It is nothing to be ashamed of. xxx Lurks, I don’t consider prostrating before elders or people you respect and hold highly as a bad thing per se, but that action how now become synonymous with deference and meekness. Do you think that when the scores and scores of ADMK cadres fall flat in front of Jayalalithaa’s feet, they do it to seek her blessings? Of course not. Its more of a symbolic gesture of total dominance of that women over that party and its cadres and this kind of ‘I-am-bigger-than-anyone-else’ sort of larger-than-life image that often gets portrayed in our society is what I object to.
Lurker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Lurks' date=' I don’t consider prostrating before elders or people you respect and hold highly as a bad thing [i']per se, but that action how now become synonymous with deference and meekness. Do you think that when the scores and scores of ADMK cadres fall flat in front of Jayalalithaa’s feet, they do it to seek her blessings? Of course not. Its more of a symbolic gesture of total dominance of that women over that party and its cadres and this kind of ‘I-am-bigger-than-anyone-else’ sort of larger-than-life image that often gets portrayed in our society is what I object to. I am sure you are smart enough to realize the fallacy of that argument Sriram. I mean to hit out at century old tradition of Indian culture becaue it is (ab)used by the politicians?? Not exactly the best argument now, is it?
Ram Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 I am sure you are smart enough to realize the fallacy of that argument Sriram. I mean to hit out at century old tradition of Indian culture becaue it is (ab)used by the politicians?? Not exactly the best argument now' date=' is it?[/quote'] A'right, let me qualify my statement then; I am not per se against the tradition of prostrating before elders or people whom you hold highly or respect, but I am dead against what it has popularly come to represent off late in our society.
fineleg Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Marrying or living with who you like is a personal preference. But where it gets ugly is when parents and relatives start trying to manipulate their kids into "choosing the right colored one" or "the right type of one", like zuby was saying. Then they take all the bias they have and try to propagate it to their children. Just leave people to lead their own lives with their own preferences (as long as it is not criminal activities). Is that so hard?
Lurker Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 I am not per se against the tradition of prostrating before elders or people whom you hold highly or respect, but I am dead against what it has popularly come to represent off late in our society. Actually I am dead against what it has been "made" to represent off late in our society. Turns out every other Indian, not you specifically, feels free to drop the whole "The ills of India is because of our toe-touching culture", at every issue. Be it economy, or education, or sports whatever. India did not make "progress" between 1947-1990 well blame it on touching feet culture. Indian students dont ask much questions to their Professor, well blame it on toe touching culture. Indian folks are not aggressive at work well blame that too. This is plain ridiculous. Apropose the topic at bare it is what I would call a moral dilemma. People respond to situations in an instinctive manner. If a guy prefers a fair colored girl there is nothing wrong with it so long as he does not turn down a girl simply because she is not fair. That would be wrong. It is akin, though not similar, to how parents react when their 2 year old son picks a fight with a kid of the same age. Their second thought is that the kid is misbehaving. Their first thought is they are proud of their son, if he is kicking the other kids ar$e of course. That obviously does not mean they appreciate kids fighting. xxx
yoda Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Just leave people to lead their own lives with their own preferences (as long as it is not criminal activities). Is that so hard? Well Indian parents traditionally have gone above and beyond their call of duty including sending kids to schools which cost beyond their means, moms sacrificing their careers so that the kids don't have to go to day care, parents pretty much putting their recreation behind (like going to movies together and leaving the kids back), etc. When they have pretty much dedicated their lives for the sake of their kids, it is natural for them to also try to be more influential than what the kids would like. If you want them to leave the kids alone to lead their own lives you must also allow them to ask you to move out soon after you are a major, make you pay for your own college/wedding, not bother them with bay sitting your kids, not bother them during and after delivery of your child, etc.
fineleg Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 ^ yoda, You mean they do what they do, and then mandate it with "expectations"? Sorry - just because you take care of kids, does not mean you can run their lives when they have become an adult (No emotional blackmailing please). Sure, Indian parents can expect kids to take care of them (as practically possible) in their old age. I believe we should do all we can to help our parents, and give them any assistance we can do in their retired life etc. Also, kids should not ignore parents - loneliness is tough, so try to connect with them as much as possible. Love them, care for them, be sincere about it, be their friend - I agree with all of this. But, that does not mean - they get to dictate who you can marry or what career path you should do etc? That is the individual's life, right?
yoda Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 ^ yoda, You mean they do what they do, and then mandate it with "expectations"? Sorry - just because you take care of kids, does not mean you can run their lives when they have become an adult (No emotional blackmailing please). Sure, Indian parents can expect kids to take care of them (as practically possible) in their old age. I believe we should do all we can to help our parents, and give them any assistance we can do in their retired life etc. Also, kids should not ignore parents - loneliness is tough, so try to connect with them as much as possible. Love them, care for them, be sincere about it, be their friend - I agree with all of this. But, that does not mean - they get to dictate who you can marry or what career path you should do etc? That is the individual's life, right? They chose the career path cause unlike the west, you can't really live a decent life in India unless you get a good education. Also, there is a age limit in univs/colleges unlike the west where you can enroll and get a degree even in your late 30s/40s/whenever, so if you snooze you lose. There is a lot of pressure with the limited opportunties. Ofc things are changing for the better now and parents will also adjust accordingly. Regarding arranged marriages, that is a whole separate topic deeply buried in our culture. It has nothing to do with parents wanting to decide whom you should marry, more to do with which set of people you can chose from, to marry.
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