Desi Cartman Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 The attacks on Indians in Australia have once again raised the ugly head of racism. Once again India is caught up in the midst of a racist storm. A while ago, the Big Brother controversy launched Shilpa Shetty as an international anti-racism icon from India. This is entirely appropriate as Indians are arguably the biggest targets of racism in the world. And they are targeted not just by unlettered British yobs or Australian thugs but, first and foremost, by their own compatriots. It's because we are so racist ourselves that we are so quick to react to a racist slur: it takes a racist to catch a racist. And our racism is colour-coded in black-and-white terms: white is intrinsically superior and desirable; black is inferior and undesirable. In the Indian colour scheme of things, black is far from beautiful. The colloquial word for a black person of African origin is 'habshi', an epithet as offensive as the American '******', both terms derived from the days of the slave trade. For all India's official championing of the anti-apartheid crusade in South Africa's erstwhile white regime, north India at least is steeped in colour prejudice - ask any African student who's had a taste of Delhi's campus life. For the north Indian, fair is lovely, as those abominably tasteless TV commercials keep proclaiming: Don't get sunburnt, use skin whitening creams, or you'll end up dark and no one will marry you. (When did you last see a matrimonial ad seeking an 'attractive, dark-complexioned life partner'?) Why is dark literally beyond the pale for so many of us? Is it an atavistic throwback to the supposed superiority of 'white' Aryans vis-a-vis the 'non-white' original inhabitants of the subcontinent? Is it the result of 250 years of white rule under the British? Is a pale skin, as against a deep tan, a testimonial to social rank, segregating those who don't have to toil under the sun from those who do? Is it an amalgam of all these? Whatever the reason, 'chitti chamri' (fair skin) is a passport to fawning social acceptance -- which might partly explain why an increasing number of Caucasians look for assignments in India, be it as MNC executives or bartenders in 5-star hotels. Our racism is largely, but not exclusively, based on colour. Caste is India's unique contribution to the lexicon of racial bigotry. Whether 'caste' - a result of cultural and social segmentation - can legitimately be conflated with 'race' - with its genetic and physiological underpinnings - is a matter of academic debate. However, as only too many horror stories testify, the average rural Dalit fares worse on the human-rights scale than her 'kafir' counterpart in the worst days of South African apartheid. Caste apart, real or imagined ethnic traits compound our racism. People from the north-east are said to have 'Chinky' (Chinese) eyes and are routinely asked if they eat dogs. Even in so-called 'mainstream' India we sub-divide ourselves with pejoratives: 'Panjus', whose only culture is agriculture; stingy 'Marrus'; mercenary 'Gujjus' who eat 'heavy snakes' for tea; lazy, shiftless 'Bongs'; 'Madrasis', who all live south of the Vindhyas and speak a funny 'Illay-po' language. In our ingrained provincialism is our much-vaunted and illusory unity. No wonder we can't stand racism. It reminds us disquietingly of the face we see in our own mirror. Source
zubinpepsi Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I think, we shud be the last person to complain about racism.. our racism includes color also.. now tell me how many of our parents rejected a bride or grroom jus cuz she is dark skinned.. i know for sure.. the 1st thing ppl come up is.. ow tht girl is very fair .. shes good looking.. im getting sick of this.. im waging a lone war against my family over this issue.. where my parents r hell bent on getting me married to someone frm the same caste..
punjabi_khota Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Gujjus: "heavy snakes with tea" :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: I think I find all this rather amusing, more than anything.
punjabi_khota Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I think it makes no sense to brand someone racist just because they get attracted to fair skinned people more than dark skinned. Everyone is free to hump whoever they feel like. The author is a self loathing mofo who seems to take offense at every ****ing phrase...wtf is pejorative about "panjus" or gujjus ? wtf dude..watch some Russell Peters and stop this whining.
cowboysfan Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 we are undoublty racist,sexist and casteism still previals in our soceity but that doesnt mean we shouldnt oppose racism against students in australia.
Don Sharma Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Reminds me of the saying "what goes around comes around".
Desi Cartman Posted June 8, 2009 Author Posted June 8, 2009 we are undoublty racist' date='sexist and casteism still previals in our soceity but that doesnt mean we shouldnt oppose racism against students in australia.[/quote'] true but the press which doesnt stop screaming racism at every thing Whites do freely ignores what happens in India. Couple of weeks ago I read that some NRI werent allowed to leave a french airports as the airlines couldnt get them visas on arrival and they were asked to stay at the airport for 8 hrs .. well that somehow was reported as racist. France does not have same laws for american citizens as for Indians so people who had american passports were allowed to leave while Indians werent. I dont see anything wrong with what the airlines did but it was racist according to Indian press .. they added that a mother was traveling with her young child and had to beg money from fellow passengers .. I dont know if the fault lies with airlines but shouldnt people plan a little better and keep $5 in their pocket when traveling between US and India especially if they are traveling with kids :dontknow: Also , the other day there was news that an Indian's car was torched in Aus .. is that racist ? well the guy lived in an apartment full of junkies where people smoked all kind of drugs next to the car park .. somehow his car caught fire and he doesnt have insurance so that was termed a hate crime .. how ?I dont get it :hmmmm: The worst part is that they lose creditability and even the genuine reports are not taken seriously because of the hype they create over nothing.
Gambit Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 What rubbish is this? Indians are the biggest apologists and self-loathing idiots in the world. This article is tripe. To analogise this idiot's line of reasoning, if your dog barks and gnarls at your neighbour, and if you get badly bitten by your neighbour's dog, you don't have the right to take him to court because after all, your dog always barked at him. What nonsense. And Indians don't 'act' on this alleged racism. Words like 'kalu'/'chinki' etc while are seldom used maliciously. Black students in DU don't get beaten up or killed neither do guys from the North East. They aren't sent to ICUs or threatened to leave the country or get killed. And could you please add the source to this article?
punjabi_khota Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 who the hell eats snakes Lol you fool...it is the way some gujju pronounce the word "snacks" .... it comes out as snakes. The was the joke. :hysterical::hysterical:
zubinpepsi Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 What rubbish is this? Indians are the biggest apologists and self-loathing idiots in the world. This article is tripe. To analogise this idiot's line of reasoning, if your dog barks and gnarls at your neighbour, and if you get badly bitten by your neighbour's dog, you don't have the right to take him to court because after all, your dog always barked at him. What nonsense. And Indians don't 'act' on this alleged racism. Words like 'kalu'/'chinki' etc while are seldom used maliciously. Black students in DU don't get beaten up or killed neither do guys from the North East. They aren't sent to ICUs or threatened to leave the country or get killed. And could you please add the source to this article? indians r the biggest racists.. yes if u r a racist u lose the moral ground to accuse others of racism.. comeon dont let ur patriotism blanket the reality... yes the people from lower gets beaten up.. i know there r places where SC/ST people are not allowed inside the houses.. yes, we do look down on the janitors, cobblers,slum dwellers etc.. yes, we do think that blacks r not good and we do avoid themm..how many dark skinned actress we have in our films?? i mean the main heroines.. most of the heroines in the south r imported frm bombay.. wonder why? its not about being self-loathers. it about accepting the fact tht we have been wrong..
Gambit Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 indians r the biggest racists.. yes if u r a racist u lose the moral ground to accuse others of racism.. comeon dont let ur patriotism blanket the reality... yes the people from lower gets beaten up.. i know there r places where SC/ST people are not allowed inside the houses.. yes, we do look down on the janitors, cobblers,slum dwellers etc.. yes, we do think that blacks r not good and we do avoid themm..how many dark skinned actress we have in our films?? i mean the main heroines.. most of the heroines in the south r imported frm bombay.. wonder why? its not about being self-loathers. it about accepting the fact tht we have been wrong.. All the examples you have listed allege that we are casteist, not racists. Don't get me wrong but you are very easily generalising all of India but probably won't do the same for OZ on the basis of these incidents. Why is that? As I said before, Indians don't act on their alleged 'racism' by going around beating up foreign students. Tell me this. If Mr.X gets jailed for 3 months for assault and battery and 15 years down the line, his kid gets murdered, will he lose the right to ensure that his son's killers are brought to justice?
nikred Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 also another good one is some of them say 'rape' music for rap music :giggle: and some desi punjabis from pind say 'sex' instead of six :haha: You sir, are a racist.:eviltongue:
gs Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I think, we shud be the last person to complain about racism.. our racism includes color also.. now tell me how many of our parents rejected a bride or grroom jus cuz she is dark skinned.. i know for sure.. the 1st thing ppl come up is.. ow tht girl is very fair .. shes good looking.. im getting sick of this.. im waging a lone war against my family over this issue.. where my parents r hell bent on getting me married to someone frm the same caste.. Ditto! This fair-dark discriminating feature is deep rooted in Indian psyche. We are all different shades of brown - how the feck can you discriminate within that is beyond me??!! Like someone mentioned here, if you dont like something then dont hump it, but that doesnt make it inferior. Sometimes wonder if at all apartheid was being practiced by Indians on blacks, I dare say it would have continued till date.
flamy Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 OK, hellllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooo???????????????????????? Arranged Marriages are not an issue to bring up racism, doh! Is there any discrimination in getting jobs, promotions, sports team selections? The problem we have is corruption. Racism - my brown ass
Bradman99 Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 India are not racist. Australia are not racist. Bottom line is that it is just a small minority of the country that is like this and it will always be the case. People who brand an entire nation as "racist" have no idea.
pan_walla Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 All Indians are racist because Nassir Hussain is of Indian origin and he thinks West Indies are the "DARK" horses of T20 tournament :giggle:
Guest gaurav_indian Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 All Indians are racist because Nassir Hussain is of Indian origin and he thinks West Indies are the "DARK" horses of T20 tournament :giggle: Geoffrey Boycott was also born in india.And he thinks that English team is roooobish.
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