Abhimanyu Mithun : Top Wicket Taker 2009/10 RANJI SEASON

[Ram]

Anyone know if neo is showing the final?

Yes. And now, that is two of India's most well respected cricketers who have now given the thumbs up for Mithun (although I still think the Dravid article sounds a bit dodgy..) My guess is that this guy probably operates in the high 130s most of the time, with a couple of deliveries crossing 140 every over. That isnt express, but its quick enough. And he's still only 20, which is great news.

[falcons360]

i have watched him bowl and i do not think he is that special, he is a OK bowler

[achilles]

If he can't bowl consistently at speeds over 150ks, I wouldn't select him. Sorry, but we already have bowlers of those pace getting smashed all around the park regularly. If a 17yr old from Pakistan can bowl at speeds no Indian hasn't even recorded in the domestic circuit, shame on us !

[punjabi_khota]

If he can't bowl consistently at speeds over 150ks' date= I wouldn't select him. Sorry, but we already have bowlers of those pace getting smashed all around the park regularly.

If a 17yr old from Pakistan can bowl at speeds no Indian hasn't even recorded in the domestic circuit, shame on us !

Srinath has recorded higher speeds.

There are like only 3 or 4 bowlers in the world who do that and is asking for too much. 140+ consistently would be great.

[Ram]

Report Card on Abhimanyu Mithun O.K, I had a chance to see Mithun bowl for 4 overs in his first spell against Bombay this morning and here's my take on him. First, the fundas; Build - He's reasonably tall, around 6'2 I think. And for someone who's just 20, well built also. He has a very Brett Lee sort of physique. Not massively built like say Flintoff or Bollinger and not pencil think like Ishant or Aamer. He's somewhere in between. Action/run-up - Has a good busting run-up and bowls from very wide of the crease with an open chested action. Unfortunately, his left-knee collapses in his delivery stride, probably making him lose a lot of momentum. The only international bowler who bowls with a collapsed front knee and yet bowls fast is Shaun Tait and we all know he is bit of a freak. Mithun left-arm falls away dramatically too, in his delivery stride. So, he does not a have rhythmic action like say an Agarkar or an Ishant. Line/Length/Bounce - With the open chested action, its no surprise that he bowls a natural inswinger. The ball not only moves away in the air, but also moves off the pitch. Has decent control over his deliveries, didnt see him spray some wild ones down the leg-side. Tried the short-pitch a couple of times and they were adequately well-directed too. And some of his balls carried nicely to the wicket-keeper. So, I'd say a pass mark for him on these aspects. Pace - I know this one's the biggie. :D.. And I am sorry to report that if you're thinking that we might have just unearthed a genuine quick bowler, then think again. His fastest in the morning was around 134 kph, with the average around 130-131 kph. But before you get too disheartened and give up on him outright, please understand that 90% of our 'pacers' in domestic cricket bowl around 125 kph. In fact, even Ishant was clocking similar speeds (130-135) against Mumbai in the semis. So, that still puts Mithun in the top 10% of the fastest domestic bowlers, but obviously, it doesnt make him a genuine quick either. Overall impression - I think there's enough there for Mithun to potentially represent India at some point in the future. I say that even though his opening bowling partner Vinay Kumar comfortably outbowled him in his first spell. But obviously, Vinay has years of experience behind him, while Mithun is a newbie. But, with some work on his action, I think Mithun can become a better fast bowler overall. So, all in all, I am reasonably satisfied with what I saw. After all, our domestic cricket is so full of mediocre trundlers that its easy to notice the even slightly above average ones. But, obviously, the big downside was the pace aspect. Reading the news reports on him, I was expecting (with trepidation of course) that he probably averages around 135-136 kph, with a few balls over 140. That did not happen at all. Maybe he's nervous, maybe 4 overs is too little time to judge him, but the thing is, if a fast bowler cannot reach his peak speeds in his first spell of day 1, I doubt if he can do it any other time. BUT, lemme add, there's still enough to watch out for.

[rkt.india]

dhaval kulkarni was clocking between 117-123 ks last year when I saw him in a ranji mach, probbaly it was final on Neo sports last year and i was disappointed seeing him, but his speed got better when he bowled in IPL up to 125-135, maybe there is fault in the settings of speed guns in domestic circuit, same i had noticed with VRV and Sudeep tyagi. Tyagi bowled over 140s against SL in the last delhi game, bt in domestic he has been around 135-139. Umesh Yadav was clocked over 141 ks last year in Duleep trophy and was mentioned in cricinfo article, that match was shown live on Neo. batsman like Nayar had toiled Flintoff in IPL who bowls quick, today he couldn't dig out Mithun's delivery which was shown around 130 ks on speed gun.

[bsriharsha]

Maybe there's a problem with the speed-gun... anyway we'll have to wait and see,Pace isn't everything...but he does seem to have the basics right

[Ram]

dhaval kulkarni was clocking between 117-123 ks last year when I saw him in a ranji mach' date=' probbaly it was final on Neo sports last year and i was disappointed seeing him, but his speed got better when he bowled in IPL up to 125-135, maybe there is fault in the settings of speed guns in domestic circuit, same i had noticed with VRV and Sudeep tyagi. Tyagi bowled over 140s against SL in the last delhi game, bt in domestic he has been around 135-139. Umesh Yadav was clocked over 141 ks last year in Duleep trophy and was mentioned in cricinfo article, that match was shown live on Neo. batsman like Nayar had toiled Flintoff in IPL who bowls quick, today he couldn't dig out Mithun's delivery which was shown around 130 ks on speed gun.[/quote'] The Aussie and the English speed guns are generally quite liberal. Most of our bowlers were clocking in the 140s when we last toured Australia.

[rkt.india]

The Aussie and the English speed guns are generally quite liberal. Most of our bowlers were clocking in the 140s when we last toured Australia.

maybe those speed guns are right, because batsman don't hop on 130 ks deliveries or miss the shots like today

[bsriharsha]

The Aussie and the English speed guns are generally quite liberal. Most of our bowlers were clocking in the 140s when we last toured Australia.

on the contrary,it's interesting to note when the speed is being measured..i.e at the time the ball is delivered... I'm pretty sure that has to do with more wrist position than anything else...so ,there's no reason for the bowler to be that drastically slower in Indian wickets when the speed-gun measures the pace @ the time the ball is released...

[jusarrived]

maybe those speed guns are right' date=' because batsman don't hop on 130 ks deliveries or miss the shots like today[/quote'] very true , Aamer just recently was bowling at 125-130 in SL & in Aus and NZ hes been htting close to 150kph we will know know mithuns relative speed when agarkar bowls

[Ram]

maybe those speed guns are right' date=' because batsman don't hop on 130 ks deliveries or miss the shots like today[/quote'] You might be right, but when the Aussie bowlers came here last year for the ODI series, they were still clocking in the 140s in the Indian speed guns. But Mithun 'looks' brisk, no doubt about that.

[bsriharsha]

You might be right, but when the Aussie bowlers came here last year for the ODI series, they were still clocking in the 140s in the Indian speed guns. But Mithun 'looks' brisk, no doubt about that.

true...

[rkt.india]

You might be right, but when the Aussie bowlers came here last year for the ODI series, they were still clocking in the 140s in the Indian speed guns. But Mithun 'looks' brisk, no doubt about that.

But you forgot Nehra was also clocking over 140 in that series and in this series he is not even clocking 135 by speed guns. The speed guns look different in domestic games i don't know why, maybe I am wrong..

[King Tendulkar]

O.K, I had a chance to see Mithun bowl for 4 overs in his first spell against Bombay this morning and here's my take on him. First, the fundas; Build - He's reasonably tall, around 6'2 I think. And for someone who's just 20, well built also. He has a very Brett Lee sort of physique. Not massively built like say Flintoff or Bollinger and not pencil think like Ishant or Aamer. He's somewhere in between. Action/run-up - Has a good busting run-up and bowls from very wide of the crease with an open chested action. Unfortunately, his left-knee collapses in his delivery stride, probably making him lose a lot of momentum. The only international bowler who bowls with a collapsed front knee and yet bowls fast is Shaun Tait and we all know he is bit of a freak. Mithun left-arm falls away dramatically too, in his delivery stride. So, he does not a have rhythmic action like say an Agarkar or an Ishant. Line/Length/Bounce - With the open chested action, its no surprise that he bowls a natural inswinger. The ball not only moves away in the air, but also moves off the pitch. Has decent control over his deliveries, didnt see him spray some wild ones down the leg-side. Tried the short-pitch a couple of times and they were adequately well-directed too. And some of his balls carried nicely to the wicket-keeper. So, I'd say a pass mark for him on these aspects. Pace - I know this one's the biggie. :D.. And I am sorry to report that if you're thinking that we might have just unearthed a genuine quick bowler, then think again. His fastest in the morning was around 134 kph, with the average around 130-131 kph. But before you get too disheartened and give up on him outright, please understand that 90% of our 'pacers' in domestic cricket bowl around 125 kph. In fact, even Ishant was clocking similar speeds (130-135) against Mumbai in the semis. So, that still puts Mithun in the top 10% of the fastest domestic bowlers, but obviously, it doesnt make him a genuine quick either. Overall impression - I think there's enough there for Mithun to potentially represent India at some point in the future. I say that even though his opening bowling partner Vinay Kumar comfortably outbowled him in his first spell. But obviously, Vinay has years of experience behind him, while Mithun is a newbie. But, with some work on his action, I think Mithun can become a better fast bowler overall. So, all in all, I am reasonably satisfied with what I saw. After all, our domestic cricket is so full of mediocre trundlers that its easy to notice the even slightly above average ones. But, obviously, the big downside was the pace aspect. Reading the news reports on him, I was expecting (with trepidation of course) that he probably averages around 135-136 kph, with a few balls over 140. That did not happen at all. Maybe he's nervous, maybe 4 overs is too little time to judge him, but the thing is, if a fast bowler cannot reach his peak speeds in his first spell of day 1, I doubt if he can do it any other time. BUT, lemme add, there's still enough to watch out for.

It seems he is pretty much like what we already have then! Not that fast bowler we all crave!

[bsriharsha]

and to be honest,there's really not that much of a difference between the 130's and the early 140's... it's only when you have a bowler who's bowling in the mid 140's....145+ that you need to be excited about

[Sachinism]

135 with good control and some variations is good enough

[King Tendulkar]

135 with good control and some variations is good enough

What about someone at 145 with good control and some variation? Would that not be better.

[Sachinism]

What about someone at 145 with good control and some variation? Would that not be better.

Looking for an Indian bowler who can do that, we'll be here till 2100

[rkt.india]

agarkar just bowled 135 ks in 3rd delivery n i was wrong about speed gun assessment