zubinpepsi Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 they shud have selected Irfan Pathan.. hes a better batsman and bowler than Yusuf.. Link to comment
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well.. Dont understand why people go with these stereotypes. Nayar is not an allrounder , he is selected as a specialist batsman. Just because he can roll his arms doesn't make him an allrounder. He has shown in this Ranji and BP-XI match that he is good batsman and he is rightly rewarded. So whoever is crying that we lack one specialist batsman, just chillax. Link to comment
Lord Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well.. Dont understand why people go with these stereotypes. Nayar is not an allrounder ' date=' he is selected as a specialist batsman. Just because he can roll his arms doesn't make him an allrounder. He has shown in this Ranji and BP-XI match that he is good batsman and he is rightly rewarded. So whoever is crying that we lack one specialist batsman, just chillax.[/quote'] well even Yusuf is a specialist batsman,but the truth is they wouldnt have been selected if they didnt bowl Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well.. Dont understand why people go with these stereotypes. Nayar is not an allrounder ' date=' he is selected as a specialist batsman. Just because he can roll his arms doesn't make him an allrounder. He has shown in this Ranji and BP-XI match that he is good batsman and he is rightly rewarded. So whoever is crying that we lack one specialist batsman, just chillax.[/quote'] Yeah certainly..can't believe i missed the fact that he was in the squad. There is no way Nayar can be considered an all rounder. He shouldn't be allowed to bowl a single ball infact. Should be told in clear terms that he has been picked for his batting. IMHO the best possible XI from this squad would be Sehwag Sachin Kohli Dhoni Raina Nayar Jadeja Mishra Zak Tyagi Nehra. I don't know if its enough overcome the Saffers though. itall depends on how the middle order performs I guess. While playing in India most of the times..bowling is taken out of the equation. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 well even Yusuf is a specialist batsman' date='but the truth is they wouldnt have been selected if they didnt bowl[/quote'] Exactly. Nayar is a no.6 batsman in his own team if i am right. He only recently improved his record. That won't put him in the league of a top order batsman. His List A average is just 25. Link to comment
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 well even Yusuf is a specialist batsman' date='but the truth is they wouldnt have been selected if they didnt bowl[/quote'] Yusuf is different case, he is a lower oder hitter and good part-time ODI bowler. But not nayar. I have not noticed Nayar bowling these days in Ranji or domestic ODI matches. Also he comes to bat at no5 for Mumbai followed by other specialist batsmen. Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 well even Yusuf is a specialist batsman' date='but the truth is they wouldnt have been selected if they didnt bowl[/quote'] Disagree..don't think Nayar's bowling was a factor at all in his selection. Infact Kohli's bowling is better. He has been chosen as a lower middle order batsman. Link to comment
Lord Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yusuf is different case' date=' he is a lower oder hitter and good part-time ODI bowler. But not nayar. I have not noticed Nayar bowling these days in Ranji or domestic ODI matches. Also he comes to bat at no5 for Mumbai followed by other specialist batsmen.[/quote'] if i am not wrong,i think Yusuf bats at 4 for Baroda.he did the same for WZ.n didnt bowl much even though his team conceded 536 run deficit in the 2nd innings. Nayar actually bowls quite a lot.m sure it was considered Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 we have to give yusuf another go before the world cup,he might make it count this time. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Jury is still out there on Nayar. My memory about him still is swiping everything to midwicket or slashing everything over extra cover. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yusuf always did well under Warne. There must be some different strategy from Dhoni as far as using him. He plays well when he is treated as the best player in his team. India should slot him in different batting spots and see how he goes. His amazing six hitting ability should be utilized properly. Link to comment
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 if i am not wrong,i think Yusuf bats at 4 for Baroda.he did the same for WZ.n didnt bowl much even though his team conceded 536 run deficit in the 2nd innings. Nayar actually bowls quite a lot.m sure it was considered Nayar has just taken 5 wickets this Ranji season and bowled just one over in duleep trophy. He doesn;t even complete his 10 overs quota in domestic ODI matches,he just bowls 2-3 overs. Moreover we have three allrounders Ashwin, Jadeja and Yusuf ( if you like to call him one) selected in the squad. Do you still think he has been selected as an allrounder? Link to comment
Lord Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Nayar has just taken 5 wickets this Ranji season and bowled just one over in duleep trophy. He doesn;t even complete his 10 overs quota in domestic ODI matches,he just bowls 2-3 overs. Moreover we have three allrounders Ashwin, Jadeja and Yusuf ( if you like to call him one) selected in the squad. Do you still think he has been selected as an allrounder? Ashwin allrounder?hes a bowler who can bat a bit just like Bhajji n PK. n Nayar's List A average is 26.why the eff is he selected if his bowling wasnt considered Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 n Nayar's List A average is 26.why the eff is he selected if his bowling wasnt considered He was the best batsman in the BP XI game vs SA recently. that merits a place in the side..doesn't it? Link to comment
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Ashwin allrounder?hes a bowler who can bat a bit just like Bhajji n PK. n Nayar's List A average is 26.why the eff is he selected if his bowling wasnt considered Because we dont consider his overall list A average for national squad selection. Its always been first class performances i.e Ranji, Duleep trophy and tour matches are considered for selection and he has done very well in Batting this season. Hope you understand this simple thing. Link to comment
Lord Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 He was the best batsman in the BP XI game vs SA recently. that merits a place in the side..doesn't it? different format.i have always spoken for Nayar to get a test spot.his FC average is good at 47.but cant understand why hes in ODI squad if we ignore his bowling Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yeah what urbestfriend said. Also its obvious that the selectors wanted a batsman who had faced Steyn and co. before albeit just the one game. that can be the only reason for them ignoring other batsmen like Pandey. Link to comment
Lord Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Because we dont consider his overall list A average for national squad selection. Its always been first class performances i.e Ranji' date=' Duleep trophy and tour matches are considered for selection and he has done very well in Batting this season. Hope you understand this simple thing.[/quote'] Pandey has done even better,highest scorer in Ranjis n good scores in other matches too.so why was he ignored Yeah what urbestfriend said. Also its obvious that the selectors wanted a batsman who had faced Steyn and co. before albeit just the one game. that can be the only reason for them ignoring other batsmen like Pandey. Pandey was in the BPXI team too.so cant understand this too Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Pandey was in the BPXI team too.so cant understand this too But who did better? Link to comment
Lord Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 But who did better? so u r tellling me they just considered that game n ignored thier List A records,thier FC form n all. it wasnt as if Pandey completely failed.he scored a brisk 43 iirc Link to comment
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