Dinda aims to make it count

[rkt.india]

^ Why do they rarely get time to work on issues? Amount of cricket playeed?

you need time in the nets to do these things. While they moslty busy playing or travelling. Bet Indian team hasn't even done a half day of practice during this ODI series.

[rkt.india]

poor bowler doesnt mean poor coach Steyn did not hv too much natural talent,if u remember our 2006 series in SA,he played then n was smashed all over

Steyn debuted in 2004 and was dropped then came back in 2006.

[Magneto]

you need time in the nets to do these things. While they moslty busy playing or travelling. Bet Indian team hasn't even done a half day of practice during this ODI series.

They were late in Eden so they skipped practice altogether.

[Lord]

Steyn debuted in 2004 and was dropped then came back in 2006.

exactly.he was erratic which is why he was dropped.in 2006 wen he played us he wasnt great too.it was against England that started his legend

[Number]

They were late in Eden so they skipped practice altogether.

It has been really poor under Fletcher bar football practice. Gavaskar in his columns, interviews keeps criticizing it. I think fans abuse them in nets so they have stopped it. :giggle:

[rkt.india]

They were late in Eden so they skipped practice altogether.

yes they were celebrating new year.

[Magneto]

It has been really poor under Fletcher bar football practice. Gavaskar in his columns, interviews keeps criticizing it. I think fans abuse them in nets so they have stopped it. :giggle:

The fans abusing part is rubbish. They're just a lazy has-been bunch. The only few members who I think are interested in practising regularly (when I see them in the stadium) are Rahane, Ishant and Dinda. Rest are always conspicuous by their absence. At Eden, Pakistan was practising in the whole of the stadium, whereas the Indians were never seen. Same in Nagpur. Whatmore holds the Pakistanis by the scruff of their neck and makes them practise, whereas Duncan is busy playing mannequin.

[CG]

yes he was erractic .it was Pont who made him this lethal.its foolish to say Steyn would hv been this good anyway. anyway Pont has worked with the likes of Akhtar,Bichel,Gough n all have good things to say about him

Dale steyn averaged 59 in 2005 season for essex with 14 wickets giving 838 runs in county divison 2.:nervous:

[rkt.india]

Dale steyn averaged 59 in 2005 season for essex with 14 wickets giving 838 runs in county divison 2.:nervous:

Pont worked wiht him 2004-2006 and it takes time to make a bowler, does not happen overnight.

[CG]

Pont worked wiht him 2004-2006 and it takes time to make a bowler' date=' does not happen overnight.[/quote'] Steyn debut in nov-dec 2004 and was dropped in jan 2005 He joined essex in 2005 and was recalled in 2006.

[Lord]

Steyn debut in nov-dec 2004 and was dropped in jan 2005 He joined essex in 2005 and was recalled in 2006.

Pont worked with him after his county stint too

[Ultimate_Game]

Bane of our team is that somebody wants to make it big/large, somebody wants to make it count... blah blah... but nobody wants to play and actually perform on the field.

[rkt.india]

Steyn debut in nov-dec 2004 and was dropped in jan 2005 He joined essex in 2005 and was recalled in 2006.

Pont also worked him in Pochefstrom academy when he was in SA around 2006.

[CG]

Pont worked with him after his county stint too

Steyn was in squad for aus tour of sa and played few odis in 2006 jan after county and then got picked for tests against nz where he ripped them apart.Please do post some articles where dale styen is saying pont made him as i was not able to find them.

[Lord]

Steyn was in squad for aus tour of sa and played few odis in 2006 jan after county and then got picked for tests against nz where he ripped them apart.Please do post some articles where dale styen is saying pont made him as i was not able to find them.

that isnt necessary.everybody knows Pont worked with him wen he was new n not as good Steyn hasnt said it directly but he has said something about him http://www.maverickscricket.com/what-the-stars-say.php

[CG]

that isnt necessary.everybody knows Pont worked with him wen he was new n not as good Steyn hasnt said it directly but he has said something about him http://www.maverickscricket.com/what-the-stars-say.php

Yeah thats why i was asking,I know his website mentions a quote.But Indian mediagoing gungho he made steyn he made steyn is rubbish.

[CG]

A good article regarding Ryan harris and joe dawes.

Age shall not weary – nor the years condemn – Ryan Harris, Australia’s least likely, but most destructive, Test quick. On sub-continental cricket blogs, where life is a metaphor for cricket and nothing goes unnoticed, serious attention has been given to this current Australia-South Africa Test series. With one Test down in a two-Test series, many are all a-flurry about this truncated clash between two tearaway titans, who, they say, are vying, along with India’s Zaheer Khan (who tours Australia in the summer), for the title of world’s most destructive new-ball practitioner. The contenders have been on display in the Indian Premier League for a few years now, but Australia’s candidate might’ve been considered utterly improbable three years ago. The blogosphere still has its share of sceptics. Many in his home country hardly know he exists. In the lead-up to this series, many thought the comparison with Steyn, in particular, ludicrous, like that funny cartoon in which a scrawny Bugs Bunny takes on a gargantuan mound of muscle, an undefeated world champion named Crusher. After the lengthy, hyperbolic centre-ring introduction exalting the terrifyingly indestructible titleholder, you know where it’s headed: “AND IN THIS CORNER … er, Bugs Bunny?” “Ladies and gentlemen, in the blue corner, weighing in at 46 Tests, for 238 wickets, at an average of 23.21 for a strike rate of 39.9 – the third greatest strike rate of all time – we have one of the most destructive pace bowlers of his generation. At 28 years of age, at the peak of his powers; the 2008 ICC Test Cricketer of the Year, boasting 5 wickets in an innings 16 times, 10 for a match four times, and a best of 7/51 in Test matches. The Duke of Yorker, Baron of the Bender, the Phalaborwa Phantom, DALE STEYN! “And in the red corner, weighing in at seven Test matches, at 32 years of age, we have ... er, Ryan Harris?” But the parallels with that animated artefact end right there. “Ryano” is no Bugs Bunny. In fact, he’s no bunny in any sense, even taking into account cricket’s contribution to the vernacular. If Harris is not the world’s best bowler, or the most destructive, or the most invaluable, he’s certainly the most surprising – a clump of fast-bowling contradictions; the exception that proves the rule in almost every instance. It’s pretty unusual these days to see a bloke who’s not a lot taller than Ricky Ponting charging into the crease and letting them go at the 150km/h mark. It’s not that it can’t be done. Just as tall boxers don’t have a mortgage on power (witness two of the most spiteful smashers of all time, Marciano and Tyson), so the lofty don’t necessarily own fast bowling. The combination of mechanics, musculature, leverage, explosiveness, power, endurance, suppleness and little local strengths that it all entails, is a mystery that might never entirely be solved. But we live in reductionist times. Most things are analysed to death, and the outputs are as monotonously reliable as a hot-afternoon spell from Curtly Ambrose: tall fast bowlers like Ambrose, McGrath, Johnson, Walsh, Morkel and Tremlett best fit the bill. The shorter blokes can generate as much speed (witness Larwood, Marshall and the other Tyson – Frank); they make up for longitudinal lacks with bustle and muscle, but their loping, lanky counterparts seem to strain themselves a lot less. The long-limbed are proving to be a lot more long-lived. Given all that, it must be said that Harris is no bustling boofhead, rather a wholehearted master craftsman. His carriage is not elegant, but it’s neat. The squat and powerful Picasso didn’t have to be a picture of elegance in order to paint one. Harris has proved to be a match-turning weapon. Not pretty, just penetrating. In fact, a fit Harris is the sort of bowler any captain might’ve wanted, in any era. He keeps them honest, keeps them in two minds, and gets wickets. He doesn’t just go all day; he bowls at good pace the whole time. He’s a good-natured team man, an exemplar who absolutely makes the most of every morsel, in every area of his life, and certainly on the field. A swing-bowling conjurer who can match Steyn trick for trick. An affable and malevolent trickster. What more could anyone want? You’ve got to love an exception to the rule. He himself is acutely aware of his role as a poster-boy for paradigm-breakers. “I’ve been on trips with [ex-Bulls coach] Joe Dawes trying to find kids to bowl fast. Joey enjoyed having me, because it broke the rules, where you don’t have to be six-foot-six. I always wished I could’ve grown another three or four inches. It does help. But being shorter, it gets onto the batsman quicker than they’re expecting, I guess.” However, there’s more to the Ryan Harris heresy than height. He’s dramatically increased his pace, and at a late age. Many medium-pacers aspired to tearaway status before coming to terms with their body-bound limitations and developing all those compensatory tricks that make them such a great part of the game. Not so long ago, Harris was approaching the wicket like a pedestrian, bowling pedestrian deliveries to a ‘keeper (Graham Manou) standing over the stumps, and getting pedestrian returns. “Graham standing up to the stumps to me was always a good sign the ball wasn’t coming out the way I wanted it to,” he laughs – now. Harris praises the coaches who’d worked with him in Adelaide. He also spent a lot of time working in solitude and obscurity, strengthening his legs and trunk and putting on kilos, which, he swears, made all the difference to his mysterious conversion. “I remember the game against WA in Adelaide when everything clicked, and I took my first five-for. The ball just came out swinging and at good pace.” His good mate, Manou, came up to him, a little amazed, and said, “What’s going on? Your pace has just gone up.” “I said, ‘I don’t know.’ Momentum is pretty important when you bowl, and whether being heavier and having a bit more weight going through the crease ... I don’t know. I didn’t try to make major adjustments. It was pretty similar to what I’d always done.” He also attributes much of his improvement to the fact that he’s older, and concentrating more on success. His 20s, he confesses, went too quickly. “I’ve been looking after myself a lot better. If I had my time over, I’d probably do it a bit differently.” Recently, Cricinfo updated his status from fast-medium to fast. Few bowlers have increased their pace mid-career, especially to world-class level. Imran Khan and Richard Hadlee come to mind. Both were already playing Test cricket when they made the transformation, therefore had the advantage of flourishing in the best of possible nurseries. Neither was a prodigy who announced his considerable talent from the outset. Harris certainly didn’t.

No coach can magical turn a medium pacer to fast bowler but its the work ethic and determination of the player.

[Cricket Tragic]

Starc has improved a lot from the time he came onto the scene. Finn is another one.

[Lord]

A good article regarding Ryan harris and joe dawes. No coach can magical turn a medium pacer to fast bowler but its the work ethic and determination of the player.

ofcourse determination n work ethic are most important factors.but u cant expect a young bowler to understand the technicalities of his action n what he needs to gain pace.thats where coach comes in.A coach can take a ghoda to the well,but pani toh ghode ko khud hi peena padega:winky:

[daryl1985]

u r on padosi site?

Yes have a different user name.