Clarke Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Turkey has threatened Israel with dire consequences. Finally someone stands up to them' date=' eh?[/quote'] Turkey's still a NATO member and an EU wannabe, dire consequences at best mean cutting off some trade.
f2000560 Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 One thing I know is that no one phucks with Israel. they are least bothered with public opinion and will use a sledgehammer to kills a mosquito how long will the the world tolerate isreal who with impunity lives on borrwed land not their own. ! the west puts up with its behavior cause its forefathers sinned against the jews Arabs/ palestinians bare the brunt of this. soon the holocaust sympathy will run out and the world will have to contend with a really spoilt brat that is isreal. the sooner the better
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 One thing I know is that no one phucks with Israel. they are least bothered with public opinion and will use a sledgehammer to kills a mosquito Israel Vs Iran Syria Jordan Lebanon Saudi Arabia Pakistan Egypit ------- Whose David and whose Goliath ?
Riley's Girl Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Can't blame Israel. It's exactly this paranoid attitude that keeps them from being blasted into oblivion.
Riley's Girl Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Israel Vs Iran Syria Jordan Lebanon Saudi Arabia Pakistan Egypit ------- Whose David and whose Goliath ? :dito:
King Tendulkar Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Totally support Isreal here. Blockades are rightly in place as they smuggle in arms and weapons etc for Hamas and other jihadis. They need to go thorugh appropriate channels if want to provide aid. They did not do this and instead just decided they would ignore israel blockades and steam in on a boat and ignore Israel. Just imagine if a boat said we are going to ignoree turkey and sail right in and try and give aid to kurds or armenians. The Israel army warned the ship to not do this. They ignored Israel warnings. Israel then went on ship. Soldiers were attacked and clubbed and stapped and thrown of ship and shot at. Israeal rightly said don't **** with us and borought the situation under control for their soldiers.
flamy Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Israel Vs Iran Syria Jordan Lebanon Saudi Arabia Pakistan Egypit ------- Whose David and whose Goliath ? sree_zion :cheer:
f2000560 Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Totally support Isreal here. Blockades are rightly in place as they smuggle in arms and weapons etc for Hamas and other jihadis. They need to go thorugh appropriate channels if want to provide aid. They did not do this and instead just decided they would ignore israel blockades and steam in on a boat and ignore Israel. Just imagine if a boat said we are going to ignoree turkey and sail right in and try and give aid to kurds or armenians. The Israel army warned the ship to not do this. They ignored Israel warnings. Israel then went on ship. Soldiers were attacked and clubbed and stapped and thrown of ship and shot at. Israeal rightly said don't **** with us and borought the situation under control for their soldiers. i suppose what isreal does isn't classified as terrorism ! they murder with impunity and the world is full of apologists who side with them. agreed the arab world wants to blow them to kingdom come and aren't helping the palestine cause by some of their belligerent behaviour. but the way isreal behaves after having stolen a homeland ( with complicity of a repentant west) is deplorable
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Peace activists my foot, free loaders came looking for a fight: Watch the videos at the end: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1282955/UN-condemns-Israels-deadly-raid-Gaza-aid-flotilla.html
King Tendulkar Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 i suppose what isreal does isn't classified as terrorism ! they murder with impunity and the world is full of apologists who side with them. agreed the arab world wants to blow them to kingdom come and aren't helping the palestine cause by some of their belligerent behaviour. but the way isreal behaves after having stolen a homeland ( with complicity of a repentant west) is deplorable Terrorists!!!!! Israel army gave warnings to these so called peace makers!! They then when they ignored army messages and warnings rightly boarded the ship which was basically taking on the sovreignty of israel. On an Army boarding a ship to tell them they could not breach the embargo attacked the soilders and tried to beat and kill them. So of course isreal army responded to protect lives of their soldiers and stop this attempt to breach israel rules
King Tendulkar Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Pro Hamas fans. Look at video when israel boarded the ship(not pro hamas ones). They were set upon by mob, who beat them with poles and and threw when army guy over board and took one gun and fired first shot. WTF was Israel army supposed to do ??? Wave flowers at them??
achilles Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Israel Vs Iran Syria Jordan Lebanon Saudi Arabia Pakistan Egypt ------- Whose David and whose Goliath ? I'll pick Israel as David. Its alright to be a bit paranoid. Behaving like this is just not on.
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 I'll pick Israel as David. Its alright to be a bit paranoid. Behaving like this is just not on. Saudi's and P@kis should be on the list. The amount of anti - semitic vitriol directed towards the Jews would shame the Nazis.
King Tendulkar Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 What would happen if a bunch of fake do gooders(as this ship seemed to be full of dodgy madrass mullahs) decided to take a ship to Turkey without permission. The ship would be full of aid for Kurds and kaffirs. The turkish army then warned the ship not to enter. Then the ship ignored the warnings and carried on. The turkish army after further warnings then boarded the ship to stop it entering Turkey. On enering the ship they were attacked with knives and and clubs with one soldier thrown over board. What would any self respecting army do? Same goes for a ship entering S Arabia in same way or other country
f2000560 Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Pro Hamas fans. Look at video when israel boarded the ship(not pro hamas ones). They were set upon by mob' date=' who beat them with poles and and threw when army guy over board and took one gun and fired first shot. WTF was Israel army supposed to do ??? Wave flowers at them??[/quote'] do you dispute the fact they were unarmed. Yes they were taking a dig at sovereignty of Israel that was the whole point of the flotilla !! so how does Israel respond send heavily armed commandos and drop them right into the middle. I am not arguing against the self defense of the soldiers. they dropped into the the ship knowing very well there will be a few stones and a few poles so they can then justify the uzi barrage that follows and claim self defense. Israel knows very well it can use disproportionate force and get away with it. its that very attitude of Israel thats annoying. They could have responded to this flotilla in a lot more measured manner instead of being petty and responding to provocation with further provocation and gunning down the unarmed.
f2000560 Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 What would happen if a bunch of fake do gooders(as this ship seemed to be full of dodgy madrass mullahs) decided to take a ship to Turkey without permission. The ship would be full of aid for Kurds and kaffirs. The turkish army then warned the ship not to enter. Then the ship ignored the warnings and carried on. The turkish army after further warnings then boarded the ship to stop it entering Turkey. On enering the ship they were attacked with knives and and clubs with one soldier thrown over board. What would any self respecting army do? Same goes for a ship entering S Arabia in same way or other country two wrongs don't make a right.
EnterTheVoid Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 do you dispute the fact they were unarmed. Yes they were taking a dig at sovereignty of Israel that was the whole point of the flotilla !! so how does Israel respond send heavily armed commandos and drop them right into the middle. I am not arguing against the self defense of the soldiers. they dropped into the the ship knowing very well there will be a few stones and a few poles so they can then justify the uzi barrage that follows and claim self defense. Israel knows very well it can use disproportionate force and get away with it. its that very attitude of Israel thats annoying. They could have responded to this flotilla in a lot more measured manner instead of being petty and responding to provocation with further provocation and gunning down the unarmed. How about you get your ****ing facts straight before sprouting your nonsense everywhere. The Israel Navy warned the flotilla that the Gaza region is closed to maritime traffic. During a search aboard the Mavi Marmara, IDF forces uncovered a cache of weapons used to violently attack the soldiers. Flotilla leaders stated (Sunday, May 30) that violence was premeditated. Early Monday morning (31 May), IDF naval forces intercepted six ships attempting to break the naval blockade of the Gaza Strip. This happened after numerous warnings from Israel and the Israel Navy that were issued prior to the action. The Israel Navy requested the ships to redirect toward Ashdod where they would be able to unload their aid material which would then be transferred over land after undergoing security inspections. During the boarding of the Mavi Marmara, the demonstrators onboard attacked the IDF naval personnel with live fire and light weaponry including knives and clubs. Additionally two of the weapons used were grabbed from an IDF soldier. The demonstrators had clearly prepared their weapons in advance for this specific purpose. In fact, flotilla leaders stated (Sunday, May 30) that violence was premeditated. As a result of this life-threatening and violent activity, naval forces first employed riot dispersal means, followed by live fire. Update on injuries and casualties in today's incident in which IDF naval forces were met with extremely violent resistance on board the Mavi Mamara: A total of seven soldiers were wounded - four soldiers were moderately wounded, of which two were initially in critical condition, as well as an additional three soldiers who were lightly wounded. Among the violent activists, there were nine casualties as a result of the soldiers defending themselves. Reports from IDF forces on the scene are that it seems as if part of the participants onboard the ships were planning to lynch the forces. The events are ongoing, and information will be updated as soon as possible. Israeli Naval commander, Vice Admiral Eliezer Marom is overseeing the events. In the coming hours, the ships will be directed to the Ashdod port, while IDF naval forces will perform security checks in order to identify the people on board the ships and their equipment. The IDF Spokesman conveys that this event is currently unfolding and further details will be provided as soon as possible. The IDF naval operation was carried out under orders from the political leadership to halt the flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip and breaching the naval blockade. The interception of the flotilla followed numerous warnings given to the organizers of the flotilla before leaving their ports as well as while sailing towards the Gaza Strip. In these warnings, it was made clear to the organizers that they could dock in the Ashdod sea port and unload the equipment they are carrying in order to deliver it to the Gaza Strip in an orderly manner, following the appropriate security checks. Upon expressing their unwillingness to cooperate and arrive at the port, it was decided to board the ships and lead them to Ashdod. IDF naval personnel encountered severe violence, including use of weaponry prepared in advance in order to attack and to harm them. The forces operated in adherence with operational commands and took all necessary actions in order to avoid violence, but to no avail. During a search aboard the maritime vessel Mavi Marmara, IDF forces uncovered a cache of weapons including many knives, slingshots, rocks, smoke bombs, metal rods, improvised sharp metal objects, sticks and clubs, 5KG hammers, firebombs and gas masks in case IDF forces fired riot dispersal means at the activists as they violently attacked the soldiers. These weapons were used against Israeli Navy personnel as they attempted to board the ship. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government/Communiques/2010/Israel_Navy_warns_flotilla_31-May-2010.htm Peace activists, my ****.
King Tendulkar Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 do you dispute the fact they were unarmed. Yes they were taking a dig at sovereignty of Israel that was the whole point of the flotilla !! so how does Israel respond send heavily armed commandos and drop them right into the middle. I am not arguing against the self defense of the soldiers. they dropped into the the ship knowing very well there will be a few stones and a few poles so they can then justify the uzi barrage that follows and claim self defense. Israel knows very well it can use disproportionate force and get away with it. its that very attitude of Israel thats annoying. They could have responded to this flotilla in a lot more measured manner instead of being petty and responding to provocation with further provocation and gunning down the unarmed. They were not unarmed. May not have had guns but when Isreal army boarde boat they had metal pipes oir something and set upon beating the soldiers with them. A metal bar in the head is gonna do plenty of damage(death) and chucked one soldier on board. These were not hippie peace makers but many were mullah maddrassa types ready for fighting and killing! A dig at Israel sovreignty!!!!! Don't take a dig at any country sovreignty and then start attacking their soldiers. Do that and any army form USA to China will show you who the real boss is. This is not street policing but army stuff. You attack armys then you get a bloody nose back. You do not attempt to sail a ship in to sovreign land and then attack soldiers. These were not hippie goooders chaining themselves to the barracades chanting "we shall not be moved" a lot of these seem to be mullahs ready to bash and kill some kaffir jews. Well they found out that they were the weak ones who got bashed. Or maybe getting killed is what they wanted and they achieved martydom?
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