Is this a glimpse of India's test future?

[Zelig]

well if we plan well we will do well. I still have high hopes on Ishant, Sreesanth and RP Singh. This guys have to work hard, cut out non sense and go back to basics. We have Pujaras, Rahanes, Rainas, Pandeys, Vijays, Rohits, Virats etc. as backup, we need 3 of them to become world class. And for that we need to plan, send to foreign tours, let them play county cricket etc.

Why doesn't the BCCI send players to play county cricket any more? If Murali Kartick can bag a contract with one of the counties, surely Irfan or RP Singh should be able to.:((

[Gunner_Mania]

More than the future of Indian cricket, this test match is proof that death for test cricket is on the horizon if they are played on such flat roads where you have to just win the toss bat first and pile on the agony on the opposition bowlers.

[Gunner_Mania]

Why doesn't the BCCI send players to play county cricket any more? If Murali Kartick can bag a contract with one of the counties, surely Irfan or RP Singh should be able to.:((

A few of them bagged contracts, but the BCCI refused them NOC citing some reasons. Murali Karthick is not contracted to the BCCI so he doesnt need an NOC from BCCI to play in county.

[Andy]

Exactly G_M and things dont seem to improve in subcontinent.

[Jadoo]

More than the future of Indian cricket' date=' this test match is proof that death for test cricket is on the horizon if they are played on such flat roads where you have to just win the toss bat first and pile on the agony on the opposition bowlers.[/quote'] Spot on, people may have their issues with T20's and ODI's, but at least you get a slightly better level playing field, unlike in tests where you know that if you do win the toss you stand a much better chance of winning compared to you opposition. And unfortunately in the sub-continent this is compounded even further, where there is hardly any competition between bat and ball.

[saneindian]

Lets see what the lankan bowlers do on this track. Dont base your judgements on the basis if performance on such graveyards. In a sense it's good that that Zak and Sree don't have to break their back on such a useless track. I wnder why Lanka go back to these flat roads vs India, when Pakistan toured SL last year, wickets had a lot of swing and seam and there was plenty for the bowlers.

[Serani]

Lets see what the lankan bowlers do on this track. Dont base your judgements on the basis if performance on such graveyards. In a sense it's good that that Zak and Sree don't have to break their back on such a useless track. I wnder why Lanka go back to these flat roads vs India, when Pakistan toured SL last year, wickets had a lot of swing and seam and there was plenty for the bowlers.

That was most probably due to two factors, Pakistans bowling is better than Indias and Pakistans batting is not as good as Indias.

[saneindian]

That was most probably due to two factors' date=' Pakistans bowling is better than Indias and Pakistans batting is not as good as Indias.[/quote'] Pakistan's better bowling minus Asif would do zilch on these dead tracks. Let Ishant and Mithun bowl on a headingley type of wicket and they will be equally lethal if not better than the Pakistani "better" bowling attack. On the batting I agree, Pakistan's BD type batting would have prompted SL to go for seaming wickets knowing fully well that on such wickets, even the Kulasekaras and Thushara will be more potent.

[Serani]

Pakistan's better bowling minus Asif would do zilch on these dead tracks. Let Ishant and Mithun bowl on a headingley type of wicket and they will be equally lethal if not better than the Pakistani "better" bowling attack. On the batting I agree, Pakistan's BD type batting would have prompted SL to go for seaming wickets knowing fully well that on such wickets, even the Kulasekaras and Thushara will be more potent.

I rate Aamer, Asif and Gul superior to the "attack" currently being used in SL by India, Aamer and Asif can both move the ball both ways for a start, Ishant only has his in swinger and batsman generally find inswing easy to play. Gul whilst not being as skillful as the other two atleast has a fair deal of pace to worry batsman. Havent seen Mithun yet apart from his ODI debut where he was pretty unimpressive. Infact when Aamer first started in SL I dont think he could move the ball back into right handers but does it easily now, I guess having Waqar Younis as coach comes in handy.

[SJS50]

I rate Aamer, Asif and Gul superior to the "attack" currently being used in SL by India, Aamer and Asif can both move the ball both ways for a start, Ishant only has his in swinger and batsman generally find inswing easy to play. Gul whilst not being as skillful as the other two atleast has a fair deal of pace to worry batsman. Havent seen Mithun yet apart from his ODI debut where he was pretty unimpressive. Infact when Aamer first started in SL I dont think he could move the ball back into right handers but does it easily now, I guess having Waqar Younis as coach comes in handy.

I would go beyond that. Aamer, Asif, Gul and even that young off spinner Pakistan has dropped would walk into an Indian side. Pakistan's attack is not just superior to ours collectively, they are better taken individually too. Only a fully fit Zaheer might find a place in a Pakistan side and that too may not be the case for long. The clock is ticking for Zaheer.

[saneindian]

I rate Aamer, Asif and Gul superior to the "attack" currently being used in SL by India, Aamer and Asif can both move the ball both ways for a start, Ishant only has his in swinger and batsman generally find inswing easy to play. Gul whilst not being as skillful as the other two atleast has a fair deal of pace to worry batsman. Havent seen Mithun yet apart from his ODI debut where he was pretty unimpressive. Infact when Aamer first started in SL I dont think he could move the ball back into right handers but does it easily now, I guess having Waqar Younis as coach comes in handy.

Aamer and Gul ave done well in the last 2 tests they have played (in perfect bowling conditions), but besides that their test record is nothing great to write about. Lets see if they can maintain similar performance against England. In fact Gul was almost Ishantesque in the 2nd innings at Leeds (leaking at 5+ runs an over in a low scoring test match). The only world class bowler in that lineup is Asif who alongwith Steyn is perhaps the best bowler in the world.

[King Tendulkar]

no' date=' its not. it merely a glimpse of test cricket in sri lanka. flat, lifeless pitches where the home side will pile on the runs early and thus inflate the averages of their abysmally poor batsmen.[/quote'] Exactly The doom and gloom going on after 1 test is frankly pathetic..

[Texy]

LMAO you guys are taking these flat tracks too seriously. This is the same ground where Sri Lanka scored 952 runs in 1997 against us. What a boring match that was. :wall: Open threads like these when Indian bowlers concede more than 500 runs in Eng, NZ, Aus or South Africa consistently.

didn't Rahul Dravid bowl in that match? the spectators probably killed themselves

[bharathh]

There were wild celebrations after the game. The president invited the whole squad to commemorate the occasion by cutting a cake at Temple Trees. Mahanama and Jayasuriya were interviewed by pretty much everyone of note on the island. They even came to gave a speech at my school after that test.

[Cricketics]

what future you guys talking about.. Pakistani bowling attack which looks pretty good got hammmered last year against sri lanka in sri lanka..on same pitches. Now when they are playing in good conditions they are doing good. Same or similar INdian bowling attack did pretty good in Australia and England too. Every bowling attack would suck on these picthes.. It's becoming habit of people of overreacting after couple of poor performances from some players.

[rabinjackman]

After watching Sehwag n Vijay toy wid the lankan bowlers (sans Malinga - Murali), i am convinced that the picth is dead as a dodo. So i think i can excuse our bowlers this time around. i hope we score 950 runs this time as sweet revenge :winky:

[rabinjackman]

and i come back to see 4 wickets down, how do we manage this i wonder. I hope Sachin pulls us out of the woods or i will have to moan n groan some more about our torrid future prospects and impotent bowling attack

[Tendulkar_Bhai]

I agree with King Tendulkar, having not seen this game but if the pitch is anything like the last one the bowlers' hands are tied, thats not to say Mithu and Ishant and co couldnt have done better, but im not confident the current unit (without RP, Zaheer..) will achieve much and Ojha is an IPL poney. In not worried about the future of our batting, with Sharma, Kohli, Raina, Pujara, Tiwary (the next Dhoni!) along with Shewag, Ghambhir and Dhoi having a good few years, all we need as pointed out below is 2 of these guys to become world class the rest can be good/average. Bowling is a different matter, but then again it only takes a year or so for someone to pop up and build on that e.g. Aamir. Australia were in the same position with Langer, Ghilchrist, Warne, McGrath etc and theyv managed. However the likes of Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly imo will never be created again and probably dont need to be, as odi/t20 is only going to take up more and more of the calender and perfecting your tecnique 100% and learning to adapt is less and less important in these formats. This is why im going to try to take the pilgrimage to India within the next 2 yrs to watch a test match.

[asterix]

I agree with King Tendulkar, having not seen this game but if the pitch is anything like the last one the bowlers' hands are tied, thats not to say Mithu and Ishant and co couldnt have done better, but im not confident the current unit (without RP, Zaheer..) will achieve much and Ojha is an IPL poney. In not worried about the future of our batting, with Sharma, Kohli, Raina, Pujara, Tiwary (the next Dhoni!) along with Shewag, Ghambhir and Dhoi having a good few years, all we need as pointed out below is 2 of these guys to become world class the rest can be good/average. Bowling is a different matter, but then again it only takes a year or so for someone to pop up and build on that e.g. Aamir. However the likes of Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly imo will never be created again and probably dont need to be, as odi/t20 is only going to take up more and more of the calender and perfecting your tecnique 100% and learning to adapt is less and less important in these formats. This is why im going to try to take the pilgrimage to India within the next 2 yrs to watch a test match.

Excellent analysis..But you missed one very important player..:giggle:

[asterix]

I agree with King Tendulkar, having not seen this game but if the pitch is anything like the last one the bowlers' hands are tied, thats not to say Mithu and Ishant and co couldnt have done better, but im not confident the current unit (without RP, Zaheer..) will achieve much and Ojha is an IPL poney. In not worried about the future of our batting, with Sharma, Kohli, Raina, Pujara, Tiwary (the next Dhoni!) along with Shewag, Ghambhir and Dhoi having a good few years, all we need as pointed out below is 2 of these guys to become world class the rest can be good/average. Bowling is a different matter, but then again it only takes a year or so for someone to pop up and build on that e.g. Aamir. However the likes of Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly imo will never be created again and probably dont need to be, as odi/t20 is only going to take up more and more of the calender and perfecting your tecnique 100% and learning to adapt is less and less important in these formats. This is why im going to try to take the pilgrimage to India within the next 2 yrs to watch a test match.

Excellent analysis..But you missed one very important player..:giggle: