saneindian Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Bedi's reaction while responding to Murali's barbs gave it all. The man is itching to hit out against Murali. For years he kept on riling Murali and one comment by Murali seems to have set his pants on fire. If you cannot digest comments from others, why keep blabbering about others? I wouldn't be surprised if Bhajji joins this battle as well. He too has been called names by Bedi.
saneindian Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 The 15 degrees that is being claimed for everyone else was measured during a certain tournament (2004 ICC Champions trophy in England, iirc) with the help of several cameras. This figure was often quoted to defend Murali and to adjust the rules. Murali did not play in this competition, so we don't know his figures alone. If it possible to make the measurement under match conditions, it would seem a very obvious thing to do it for Murali too some other time. But for some reason - monetary, pressure on ICC or whatever - this was never done. If it was done and Murali came no worse than the rest, it would have shut up several people like me. The primary reason was the fact that a ICC study found 99% of the bowlers having suspect actions if put to scrutiny (especially fast bowlers like Mcgrath, Pollock, Donald etc who all seem to have a perfect action to the naked eye, but were flexing their arms by 11-12 degrees at the time of delivery). ICC study reveals that 99% chuck http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/141565.html
coffee_rules Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Hi Guys.. I need to know the break up stats of his wickets in each country. I tried to find in Statsguru but not getting the desired stat. This stat will give me fair idea of which country was his favorite hunding ground. I've inkling that he has amassed his most wickets in Srilanka.. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49636.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=1;host=2;host=25;host=3;host=4;host=5;host=6;host=7;host=8;host=9;orderby=default;template=results;type=allround Whopphing 493 wkts in SL!!!! in Australia 1995-2007 5 42 15 7.00 0 12 3/55 75.41 0 6 0 view innings in Bangladesh 2006-2009 4 13 8* 6.50 0 29 6/49 19.44 3 3 0 view innings in England 1998-2006 6 73 33 12.16 0 48 9/65 19.20 5 2 0 view innings in India 1994-2009 11 126 29 12.60 0 40 7/100 45.45 2 5 0 view innings in New Zealand 1995-2006 6 93 26 8.45 0 30 6/87 19.96 2 1 0 view innings in Pakistan 1995-2009 9 102 22 12.75 0 50 6/71 24.96 2 5 0 view innings in South Africa 1998-2002 6 89 27 11.12 0 35 6/39 26.02 3 4 0 view innings in Sri Lanka 1992-2010 73 624 67 14.18 0 493 9/51 19.56 45 34 0 view innings in West Indies 1997-2008 6 42 14 5.25 0 37 5/34 23.00 4 5 0 view innings in Zimbabwe 1994-2004 7 57 26 11.40 0 26 6/45 27.53 1 7 0 view innings
asterix Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Thanks CR..That's massive.. Almost 500 wickets in 'home conditions'!! It would be interesting to compare the bowling averages at home and abroad.. Hmmmmmmm.........
Clarke Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Thanks CR..That's massive.. Almost 500 wickets in 'home conditions'!! It would be interesting to compare the bowling averages at home and abroad.. Hmmmmmmm......... Same page : 19.56 @ home, 27.79 away.
asterix Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Thanks Clarke. I got it. So he has played 65% of matches in his career in favorable home conditions and got whopping 45 '5 fers'.. He has excellent average against Bangers..followed by against Zimboks and Windians..Then Kiwis, English and Springboks were other major contributors..
Serani Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Same page : 19.56 @ home' date=' 27.79 away.[/quote'] Away average still better than Bedis career average.
asterix Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 I don't think Zimbabwe & Bangladesh were Test playing nation during Bedi's time. And West Indies batting went downwards during Murali's time..But I'm not comparing Bedi with Murali. I'll rather compare Murali with Warne..
Serani Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 You cant blame Murali for taking wickets at home and against Zim and Bang when the "big" nations dont want them to tour their countries.
asterix Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 These are Shane Warne's stats.. Looks more 'balanced' and not 'skewed'..Respect to him.. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/8166.html?class=1;home_or_away=1;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;template=results;type=allround
Andy Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Murali sux. The most Overrated spiner compared to Warne. Minnow Basher to be Precise.
Ranjha Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 wow thats some interesting stats.....lot of home condition wickets for murli here.
Ranjha Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 These are Shane Warne's stats.. Looks more 'balanced' and not 'skewed'..Respect to him.. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/8166.html?class=1;home_or_away=1;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;template=results;type=allround Shane Warne was a legend..on field and off field.....nice clean action as well ..on field that is
yoda Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 Agree with Murali that Bedi is a controversy Monger, but can't accept that he was an ordinary. Never seen Bedi bowl, but from what I have read he was easily better than Prasanna and Venkat. Murali is simply hitting back after putting up with all non sense spewed by Bedi. Can't blame him, but it is impossible for Murali to stoop down to Bedi's level, no matter how hard he tries.
Zap_Brannigan Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 All the people who are harping on Murali taking so many wickets home realize that most players play about 50% of the games at home? Kinda like how idiots harp on Sachin's only X 100 outside India when he fking plays half his tests in India. Murali has played 73 tests out of 133 at home. Speaking of warne, i wonder what his figures would have been if he didnt play against his bunnies England so much.
21cent Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 Shane Warne was a legend..on field and off field.....nice clean action as well ..on field that is Yep Defintly a legend who got banned for taking drugs. why is it that when Murali vs Warne deabte comes up , no one ever forgets to bring in Murali's unusual action but never mention that Shane Warne took performance enhancing drugs.
Tapioca Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 The primary reason was the fact that a ICC study found 99% of the bowlers having suspect actions if put to scrutiny (especially fast bowlers like Mcgrath, Pollock, Donald etc who all seem to have a perfect action to the naked eye, but were flexing their arms by 11-12 degrees at the time of delivery). ICC study reveals that 99% chuck http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/141565.html This was what I was talking about. This was based on studies done during the 2004 Champions Trophy. Murali missed it. So we have the figures from match conditions from pretty much everyone, except Murali.
saneindian Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 Warne in tests without Mcgrath: 41 tests, 195 wickets@26.83, 12 5-fers Aah, the benefits of having another legend in the same bowling line up.
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