India's number 7 for the world cup

[Lord]

Thas correct, but then if he is to get fully fit, don't you think he should be doing his rehab at the NCA like all our injured players do? Zaheer, Ishant, Sreesanth, RP, Munaf, Rohit, Gambhir, Sehwag, Yuvraj have all gone through rehab programs at NCA, why not Irfan? I agree the selectors have not treated him fairly, but then he has himself not followed the system (however crap it may be) to help himself! On a sidenote the last first class match he played was in January this year, since then he has played IPL and nothing thereafter. Needs to test his fitness somewhere. He cannot expect to get picked for the national side out of the blue especially with the national coach mentioning it in explicit terms that Irfan bowling 120 kmph or bowling at 50% of his ability doesn't quite work out for the team. Doesn't he need to show it to the coach that he has worked on those specific areas and has returned as a etter bowler (his abilities are beyond any questions).

I'm not sure about whether he went to NCA or not,I think hes wise enough to.about showing his performances,where exactly can he do that?if he isnt getting selected,how can he play,he cant just turn up at the ground without being selected,because he wants to prove himself:giggle:

[sudheer kumar]

I think 3 players from ICL(in past,not now) are good all-rounders. Ganapathy Vignesh Stuart Binny R Satish Even R Sodhi also became as an all-rounder. If they get right kind of training.......they will be our future stars.

[VRV Singh]

Have we basically established that the no.7 has to be able to hold his own in the PP overs and not go for masses of runs, and be a competent batsman who can adjust according to circumstance? In which case I do not see any of those choices as reliable enough to do this. Irfan on a good day - but they're all too infrequent and in the past.

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Persist with Jadeja, he’s India’s best bet at Number 7: Akash Chopra Who should be playing at No 7 for India? The question is the most popular point of debate and one doesn’t need rocket science to decode the answer. The player at No 7 has to be an all-rounder. More... Persist with Jadeja, he’s India’s best bet at Number 7 Aakash Chopra, Hindustan Times August 22, 2010 Who should be playing at No 7 for India? The question is the most popular point of debate and one doesn’t need rocket science to decode the answer. The player at No 7 has to be an all-rounder. Let’s see who fits the bill best. There’s been a lot of debate on bringing Irfan Pathan back. The player has shown enough talent and temperament to become a genuine all-rounder. Pathan could be the ideal No 7 for he has the sense to farm the strike and the guts to use the long handle to good effect. Unfortunately, his bowling has put him off the radar. He seems to have lost pace and swing lately, which means he must bowl with the new ball and stay away from the death overs. But don’t we already have Praveen Kumar with the same profile? India can’t have both Praveen and Pathan in the XI for both can’t be bowling in tandem with the new ball. More importantly, your spinners can’t be bowling in the batting power play and death overs. Irfan might be a better batsman but only three quick bowlers can play in the XI, which means Pathan must bowl his quota of 10, which seems difficult in the sub-continent, or so the team management believes. Since the World Cup is in the sub-continent, good thinking says we’d need a spinning all-rounder rather than a fast-bowling one. The toss-up is between Yusuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja. Ideally, the No 7 batsman should be a big hitter who can hit sixes with ease and going by that criterion, Pathan Sr fits the bill perfectly. That’s why selectors put him on trial but his inability to hit consistently and, more importantly, his inability to bowl seven-eight overs on a regular basis cost him his place. Now, the only available and promising option is Jadeja. He might be the last choice but not necessarily a bad one. The only thing that goes against him is that he’s a grafter, not a big hitter and you’d seldom wish for a grafter at No 7. But he’s bringing enough to the table to make up for the shortcoming. He’s bowling his quota of 10 overs at a miserly economy of under-five runs an over. He also chips in with a wicket or two, and is one of the best outfielders with extremely quick legs. Though Jadeja hasn’t set the world alight with the bat, he still averages in the mid-30s in ODIs, which isn’t poor. His critics seem to be mixing his T20 failures with his showing in ODIs, which is not fair. Presumably, India will go with Jadeja for the World Cup. Once they have identified Jadeja as their ideal No 7, it’s just to persist with him, especially when he’s doing his job.

[sudheer kumar]

Jadeja should be at no.8 He is not suitable at no.7 especially in sub-continent. Selectors need to find another player if they don't trust Pathan brothers.

[Online]

Reasonable explanation

[The Dark Horse]

We may well play a bowler instead of him, after all whats the difference..

[Hell Raiser]

i would still take Irfan over Jadeja any day. Irfan can atleast bat better,Jadeja is good for nothing.

[sudheer kumar]

i would still take Irfan over Jadeja any day. Irfan can atleast bat better' date='Jadeja is good for nothing.[/quote'] Exactly. But I saw in this thread selectors wants a spin bowler as all-rounder.

[Zap_Brannigan]

Irfan will probably be worse than Jadeja. Irfan has been reduced to 120Kmph bowler who cannot swing in normal indian condition. Before being dropped, he became a 1 spell at the beginning kinda bowler and was useless during the last 10 overs. Although, his batting improved, his bowling deteriorated. Considering that that WC will be in India, it is a good choice to go in with a bowling all-rounder if we are going in with 3 seamers.

[Hell Raiser]

Exactly. But I saw in this thread selectors wants a spin bowler as all-rounder.

Ya. that's the reason we are stuck with Jadeja. But then we can try Ashwin, i think he can also use long handle to score some quick runs at the end.

[Ram]

I am absolutely convinced that an inadequate no.7 batsmen will be one of the main reason that could cause of WC campaign to unravel. Even though we have won 2 of our last 3 home ODI series played against very good opponents in the last 10 months, it shouldn’t blind us to the fact that there are frightening structural weaknesses in our team. Our pacers seem to have magically lost any ability whatsoever to take early wickets, even as their bowling otherwise has degraded alarmingly. Our fielding is at best, average and at worse, many other adjectives that isn’t appropriate for a young audience. On all those occasions, our batting bailed us out, but recently, even that aspect of our team is beginning to develop some cracks. WE NEED A PROPER BATSMEN AT NO.7. There’s no effin way we can possibly hope to go through an entire world cup campaign with knock-out matches with such a glaring weakness. We win some matches for sure, but ultimately, it will come back to bite us hard. This is not a bilateral series where we can simply hope our batting is good enough to win more matches than the opposition and hence, at the end of it all, we get to keep the cup and pose for the cameras.

[Manny_Pacquiao]

as the days go by and world cup draws closer, i dread seeing indian lineup with jadeja at number 7. his nervous batting is definitely going to screw india over at some point of the tournament...

[Ram]

Ironically, most of our WC questions would have been solved had the Pathan brothers lived up to their expectations. Imagine if Irfan was still the bowler he was, taking wickets with the new ball and providing a reliable batting option lower down the order, while Yusuf’s batting and bowling lived up to its billing. That scenario would give us batting till no.9, 3 specialist seamers, 1 spinner and 3 part-time spinners. That’s almost a dream combo..:((

[anish233]

ANYONE but Jadeja and Irfan Pathan.... well.. i wanted india to give Yusuf a few knocks at number 3........ i think thatd be something to try ..

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Dhoni backing for Jadeja, Rohit India skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni defended his woefully out-of-form batsmen, saying the team just needs one individual spark of brilliance for the entire line-up to click in Wednesday's must-win tri-series match against New Zealand. More... Dhoni backing for Jadeja, Rohit Dambulla, Aug 24, DHNS: Mahendra Singh Dhoni firmly threw his weight behind the embattled duo of Ravindra Jadeja and Rohit Sharma, both struggling to do justice to their places in the playing eleven. “If you see Jadeja’s bowling in the past one and a half years, he has had a few bad games but he has bowled really well in a majority of those games,” the Indian captain said. “His batting has dipped but if he can contribute with the bat too, then he is literally our fifth bowler, unless we can find an all-rounder who can bowl 10 overs. “It’s a tricky situation for Rohit, he is always in and out of the side. There’s pressure when you are in and out of the side, especially on tracks like these. He didn’t get the umpire’s decision in his favour once, and I don’t think two innings is good enough to decide whether a player is good or not. He is working hard, his fitness has improved. We are just hoping he comes up and scores some big runs.” Taking offence on being informed that former Pakistan great Wasim Akram had called the young Indians ‘softies’ and ‘spoilt’, Dhoni retorted, “For me, what’s important is how the team is shaping up. They have done really well in adverse and difficult conditions, be it in Australia or the World T20 or even the Asia Cup when again, we did well with youngsters. I don’t think you should be clever enough to make a statement based on three or four games. It’s the overall picture that you set. The guys are courageous enough to go through any situation thrown at them. We are on the back foot right now, but these are the boys who will ultimately be an integral part of the Indian team.” Not unaware of the magnitude of the task that awaits his team in Wednesday’s must-win showdown against New Zealand, Dhoni noted, “It’s a virtual semifinal. The preparation has been very good, hopefully the execution will also be good tomorrow.” The conditions have got the better of the batsmen, but Dhoni insisted they were not insurmountable. “Two or three days between matches is enough time to work on technicalities, but, it’s more about the mindset,” he offered. “In one-day cricket, you’re so used to going after and hitting the bowlers right from the first delivery -- give respect to the bowlers for the first 10 overs, and the next 40 overs is yours. This is one of those venues where you have to prolong the respect for bowlers by another 10 overs. If you don’t lose too many wickets for 20 overs, you can really dictate to the bowlers.”

[achilles]

And Rohit will score well today and Jaddu will pick up wickets and contribute a bit.

[vamos_rafa]

^ If that can happen then good for us. But by the looks of it it looks highly improbable.

[sudheer kumar]

Even they play well today......... Their spot in squad is doubtful. If they don't.........they will be out of team

[Jersey #10]

Dr. Sachin Tendulkar Doctor please fix the hiccups in the team :hail::hail: