Sir john Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 DK got sooooooooooooooooooooo many chances but failed to grab anyone's attention no he grab all chances he played 49 ODI ad 21 test,so deserve a place in team india
Zap_Brannigan Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 he scored run first' date='than nehra take wicket,B->[/quote'] so did others. 25% of the runs at below par SR is not a match winning innings.
Sir john Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 so did others. 25% of the runs at below par SR is not a match winning innings. he provide a solid platform to team india,:haha: if he get out early than we will in big trouble.:haha:
The Dark Horse Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Dinesh Karthik IMO has been given chances lately and has proven himself once in a while- but the problem is he doesnt get the big scores. He could have cemented his spot by now, but again most of the times he has lost his wicket in search of quick runs for the team's cause. I would still say he should be ahead of someone like Rohit Sharma. That said, if they find someone more consistent than these two thay have to make way for him.
thevortex Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Karthik is talented no doubt. But it begs the question - are there no more talented specialist batsmen than him in the country? I think a lot of the time he gets an upper hand because he has been there at the international level and his wont be the case of butterflies in the stomach.
saneindian Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Karthik is talented no doubt. But it begs the question - are there no more talented specialist batsmen than him in the country? I think a lot of the time he gets an upper hand because he has been there at the international level and his wont be the case of butterflies in the stomach. Besides that there is also the case of him thrashing the domestic bowling attacks when he turns for TN or South Zone, The guy has scored 10 first calss 100s in 17-18 matches he's played in the last two seasons and has made those runs in crucial encounters! SOme of his recent performances in domestic cricket: 1. 183 vs West Zone in Duleep trophy final, his team struggling at 76-3 2. 152 vs Orissa in Ranji troph 2009-10 3. 117 vs Punjab in Ranji trophy 2009-10 Besides these he scored 88 vs Gujarat and 70 vs Himachal Pradesh. Now considering he played only 7 first class matches in the domestic season, thats a remarkable record. Mind you he was also the captain and the keeper for his side in all these matches.
Karan114 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 The guy has scored 10 first calss 100s in 17-18 matches he's played in the last two seasons and has made those runs in crucial encounters! That's a fantastic record...I knew he'd made some big FC scores but didn't realize he'd been so prolific
imran666 Posted August 21, 2010 Author Posted August 21, 2010 thanks for the answers guys ..i was really confused about this guy ..now i know why hes in team.he can play many roles ..but what do u guys think about that uttapa(forgot the first name) guy ..he is a great hitter and he he is a keeper too ..he can solve indias no,7 problem i think
thevortex Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Besides that there is also the case of him thrashing the domestic bowling attacks when he turns for TN or South Zone, The guy has scored 10 first calss 100s in 17-18 matches he's played in the last two seasons and has made those runs in crucial encounters! SOme of his recent performances in domestic cricket: 1. 183 vs West Zone in Duleep trophy final, his team struggling at 76-3 2. 152 vs Orissa in Ranji troph 2009-10 3. 117 vs Punjab in Ranji trophy 2009-10 Besides these he scored 88 vs Gujarat and 70 vs Himachal Pradesh. Now considering he played only 7 first class matches in the domestic season, thats a remarkable record. Mind you he was also the captain and the keeper for his side in all these matches. Impressive domestic record no doubt. But if that were the yardstick then Badri would have had even better years in the past couple. I just think picking Karthik as a specialist batsman may send the wrong signals. He is a very good wicket keeper batsman. If he is picked over a specialist batsman, then that guy should be angry. He ought to do better. Make no mistake. I am not under-rating Karthik. I think he is a fantastic talent. Still...I would like for him to be picked as a keeper-batsman than as a pure batsman. If he comes in as a batsman, then I do not think it speaks so well of the rest of the young batsmen around the country. Again no slight meant towards Karthik.
Lord Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 thanks for the answers guys ..i was really confused about this guy ..now i know why hes in team.he can play many roles ..but what do u guys think about that uttapa(forgot the first name) guy ..he is a great hitter and he he is a keeper too ..he can solve indias no' date='7 problem i think[/quote'] hes got no techique,struggles against spin especially.dont think he can play quietly for too long too. wont be a bad choice for reserve keeper,but Karthik's done no wrong lately,deserves few chances consecutively
Lord Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Impressive domestic record no doubt. But if that were the yardstick then Badri would have had even better years in the past couple. I just think picking Karthik as a specialist batsman may send the wrong signals. He is a very good wicket keeper batsman. If he is picked over a specialist batsman, then that guy should be angry. He ought to do better. Make no mistake. I am not under-rating Karthik. I think he is a fantastic talent. Still...I would like for him to be picked as a keeper-batsman than as a pure batsman. If he comes in as a batsman, then I do not think it speaks so well of the rest of the young batsmen around the country. Again no slight meant towards Karthik. I think hes picked as a reserve keeper/opener.I dont think he'll bat in the MO n not keep.then other batsman wil be picked hes a utilty guy as I said.dont think he refuses to anything the captain wants,captains love to have such guys on the bench
The Outsider Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 thanks for the answers guys ..i was really confused about this guy ..now i know why hes in team.he can play many roles ..but what do u guys think about that uttapa(forgot the first name) guy ..he is a great hitter and he he is a keeper too ..he can solve indias no' date='7 problem i think[/quote'] Yes, Flathappa is nice alternative to Karthik, but he has been injured for the past 6 months, so can't really gauge him.
thevortex Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 I think hes picked as a reserve keeper/opener.I dont think he'll bat in the MO n not keep.then other batsman wil be picked hes a utilty guy as I said.dont think he refuses to anything the captain wants,captains love to have such guys on the bench Not really. If you look at games he has played in, he has featured only as a specialist batsman, almost all the time. Dhoni keeps wickets. And Karthik comes in to replace a full batsman. That is the concern.
vvvslaxman Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 He is basically one batsman who doesn't have distinct weakness from a technical standpoint.
saneindian Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 Not really. If you look at games he has played in, he has featured only as a specialist batsman, almost all the time. Dhoni keeps wickets. And Karthik comes in to replace a full batsman. That is the concern. 48, 34, 44, 79, 11, 40, 66, 14, 10 his scores as a specialist batsman in 2010. 348 runs in 9 innings at an avg of 38, 2 50s and 3 40s for a makeshift opener and someone who comes in only s a replacement player is not too bad. Should ideally have been sent to It would have been good for him had he converted these starts to a bigger score and I am sure no one knows it better than him
Lord Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 Not really. If you look at games he has played in, he has featured only as a specialist batsman, almost all the time. Dhoni keeps wickets. And Karthik comes in to replace a full batsman. That is the concern. yeah I said hes reserve opener too.dont think he bats in MO with Dhoni keeping
thevortex Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 He is basically one batsman who doesn't have distinct weakness from a technical standpoint. I think Karthik will be very happy looking at this post, vvs! He has quite a few weaknesses. Starting from his propensity to stand outside the crease and launch onto his front foot from there. Will not work on bouncier pitches against faster bowlers. This also means that he is always pulling on the move. Looks good when it comes off. Even spectacular. But not really percentage. Not unless you can do a Ponting on that one. Otherwise he is a reasonably compact batsman. I am not impressed by his temperament though. He still has the temperament of a non regular batsman. And that is a huge problem.
thevortex Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 48, 34, 44, 79, 11, 40, 66, 14, 10 his scores as a specialist batsman in 2010. 348 runs in 9 innings at an avg of 38, 2 50s and 3 40s for a makeshift opener and someone who comes in only s a replacement player is not too bad. Should ideally have been sent to It would have been good for him had he converted these starts to a bigger score and I am sure no one knows it better than him True. And one of the biggest reasons is that his temperament is not where it should be for a top order player. yeah I said hes reserve opener too.dont think he bats in MO with Dhoni keeping How is this any different from what I mentioned to start with? He is picked as a specialist batsman! He is not keeping.
Lord Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 True. And one of the biggest reasons is that his temperament is not where it should be for a top order player. How is this any different from what I mentioned to start with? He is picked as a specialist batsman! He is not keeping. do u really want another reserve opener wen two of GG/VS/SRT are not playing.wen u have an option of Karthik whos been doing a job
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