achilles Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Jacques Kallis' stats - Statsguru Rahul Dravid's stats - Statsguru Ricky Ponting's World XI, where he picked Jacques Kallis over Rahul Dravid at #3, made me look up the stats. Kallis provides an All-round option with some handy bowling at his disposal. But can he make it to an Eleven over Dravid, purely on the merit of his batting? You decide.
Lord Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 not on batting,but bowling certainly gives a huge edge.if I'd to pick one it'd be Kallis too
saneindian Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Kallis hasn't batted at number 3 for SA for a long long time, where as Dravid is your ideal number 3. Also Kallis at number 3 does not have a very good record. Does have an average of 49 but thats primarily due to his massive average of 280+ vs the mighty Zimbabwe! 45 tests vs top nations at number 3 and just 6 100s. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/45789.html?batting_positionmax1=3;batting_positionmin1=3;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;template=results;type=batting I would pick Dravid anyday over Kallis.
ZodiaC Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Kallis = overrated selfish player IMO. Dravid is lightyears ahead of kalizzzzzzz as a batsman. But Kallis might inch ahead as player coz of his bowlin skills..
achilles Posted August 21, 2010 Author Posted August 21, 2010 Kallis hasn't batted at number 3 for SA for a long long time, where as Dravid is your ideal number 3. Also Kallis at number 3 does not have a very good record. Does have an average of 49 but thats primarily due to his massive average of 280+ vs the mighty Zimbabwe! 45 tests vs top nations at number 3 and just 6 100s. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/45789.html?batting_positionmax1=3;batting_positionmin1=3;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;template=results;type=batting I would pick Dravid anyday over Kallis. Lets say Kallis and Dravid are not battling for #3 but any spot in the Middle-order. Which one would you pick then? Kallis = overrated selfish player IMO. Dravid is lightyears ahead of kalizzzzzzz as a batsman. But Kallis might inch ahead as player coz of his bowlin skills.. If you had to Pick one among the two, and if say, you have a No.7 and he's a handy bowler, who would you pick?
Bradman99 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I think you could find room for both of them- Kallis over Flintoff and Dravid in Kallis' spot.
Andy Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I'll pick Kallis over RD becuase of the bowling option he provides. Even on Current form i'll pick Kallis.
Andy Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I think you could find room for both of them- Kallis over Flintoff and Dravid in Kallis' spot. Freddy can play as a bowler alone, so good he is with Bowling.
ZodiaC Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 If you had to Pick one among the two, and if say, you have a No.7 and he's a handy bowler, who would you pick? Depends, if it's a flat track, I might pick Kallis, but otherwise, it ought to be the wall :winky:
don_corleone840 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Dravid is no longer batsman he was 4 years ago.he has definitely lost the reflexes he had four year ago.Right now kallis is far more solid than dravid.
jf1gp_1 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Dravid is a superior batsman in test cricket i would always choose dravid over kallis
Sachinism Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I think you could find room for both of them- Kallis over Flintoff and Dravid in Kallis' spot. This.....
Tendulkar_Bhai Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Dravid is a classic test batsmen, achoring the innings and scoring in the most difficult conditions, Kallis doesnt have that temprament. Of course Ponting is gona choose Kallis, the guys a racist.
Bradman99 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Dravid is a classic test batsmen, achoring the innings and scoring in the most difficult conditions, Kallis doesnt have that temprament. Of course Ponting is gona choose Kallis, the guys a racist. ^ Real intelligent answer.
The Outsider Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Dravid is a classic test batsmen, achoring the innings and scoring in the most difficult conditions, Kallis doesnt have that temprament. Of course Ponting is gona choose Kallis, the guys a racist. That's why he chose Lara, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Ambrose, Sangakkara, Akram, Murali in his XI? :hysterical: At OP : It's a close call, but I would edge it to Dravid for knocks like 230 and 70 at Adelaide, 180 at Calcutta, and 148 at Headingly. Can't seem to think of such defining innings from Kallis, but that might well be because for obvious reasons I haven't followed his career and innings as closely as Dravids'.
Rajan Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 if one considers the best form of Dravid and best form of Kallis as batsmen alone, I will go 10 out of 10 times for Dravid for #3. Dravid at his best is definitely better than Kallis at his best, I M H O. Kallis is equally good in slips. way better bowler than any indian seamer, other than Zak. he is the most underrated allrounder in world cricket in tests.he is a true allrounder.good enuf to be an automatic selection as allrounder in the World XI of 90's & 2000's. but certainly #3, it is Rahul Sharad Dravid is ahead of him.
vamos_rafa Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 I think i would also pick RD over gallis...... of all the praises that are showered over kallis... the fact remains that he has yet to score a double in test cricket... which is pretty dissapointing given the bracket in which he's placed when being praised... and I think RD has played more defining knocks than Kallis... agreed that he's going through a lean patch... but even kallis has been through it... I can recall an SA tour to Eng where he struggled to put bat to ball and was worked out by the poms.... And RD has a far superior technique than him.... I know people regards Kallis as a technical supremo but I have seen him struggle against in coming balls... which even dravid does but not as frequently as Kallis.....
Steyn Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 I will choose Kallis for his allround ability. Except him and Tendulkar all other batsmen is match winners, Kallis and Tendulkar will bring little more consistency and versatility in the line up.
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