cowboysfan Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 PCB can't do jack about anything. Between most of the bookies reside in one country so this sport won't be clean as long as they are running their illegal business. you are under a misconception that since betting is illegal in the sub continent that everything's is the bookies fault.Even if india legalized sports betting there will always be players who will be tempted to make a quick buck.players should avoid bookies at all cost or report them to the ACSU.pakistan has failed to do that,instead they have made bookies their "agents".even bangladeshis have reported bookies to the ICC,why cant pakistan?
zen Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 PCB can't do jack about anything. Between most of the bookies reside in one country so this sport won't be clean as long as they are running their illegal business. On bookies, they may be illegal in India but they are legal in some of the other countries. So tomorrow, if Ind makes betting on sports legal then the bookies stop being illegal. And it is not always bookies who try to fix games as players can do that to cheat the bookies by getting their desired result. Also sometimes the bookies pay for that inside information to understand the odds or whether to take bets on one particular game The current case is more about Pakistani players trying to cheat the betting world. For example, in one of the tests in Aus, the chances of Pak winning were high so the odds were in Pak's favor. The players bet for an Aus win, tailor the result and make loads of money (US$1.3m as claimed by Majid) so how do you blame bookmakers for this?
don_corleone840 Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Bookie and cheats both should be punished. This sport needs some cleaning.
zen Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Kindly correct me, if I am wrong with the below: Step 1: Pak cricketers cheat, make their team lose. In this process, the cricket loving Pak public gets cheated too Step 2: ICC takes action againt Pak players Step 3: Many in Pak think it is ICC vs Pak Step 4: Many in Pak start supporting the cheats, who actually cheated Pak in the first place, and pointing fingers at others Who is it that's losing?
cowboysfan Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Kindly correct me, if I am wrong with the below: Step 1: Pak cricketers cheat, make their team lose. In this process, the cricket loving Pak public gets cheated too Step 2: ICC takes action againt Pak players Step 3: Many in Pak think it is ICC vs Pak Step 4: Many in Pak start supporting the cheats, who actually cheated Pak in the first place, and pointing fingers at others Who is it that's losing? i think most pakistanis understand this,they dont want to admit it though because that would mean admitting that their country is going down the drain and there is no hope.The citizens of that country have given up.
The Outsider Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 PCB can't do jack about anything. Between most of the bookies reside in one country so this sport won't be clean as long as they are running their illegal business. The baap of all bookies is an official guest in Pakistan and relative of one of the great Paki cricketers, who still holds some post in the PCB.
SachDan Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Kindly correct me, if I am wrong with the below: Step 1: Pak cricketers cheat, make their team lose. In this process, the cricket loving Pak public gets cheated too Step 2: ICC takes action againt Pak players Step 3: Many in Pak think it is ICC vs Pak Step 4: Many in Pak start supporting the cheats, who actually cheated Pak in the first place, and pointing fingers at others Who is it that's losing? simple..INDIA !!
asterix Posted September 4, 2010 Author Posted September 4, 2010 Pakistan match-fixing row could see Mohammad Amir removed from Lord's honours board http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/2010/08/31/pakistan-match-fixing-row-could-see-mohammad-amir-removed-from-lord-s-honours-board-115875-22525616/ This going bit over the top. I hope it's masala news..
SachDan Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 The baap of all bookies is an official guest in Pakistan and relative of one of the great Paki cricketers' date=' who still holds some post in the PCB.[/quote'] Nah..Dawood learned the nuances of betting from Mukesh Gupta :)
Gunner_Mania Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Pakistan bookmakers reveal depth of cricket match-fixing scandal Huddled over a makeshift desk in a dimly lit office, the life led by Nomi Khan appears a world away from the fabulous luxury enjoyed by cricket’s corrupt match fixers. Only the shrill of mobile phones from the seven at his disposal and his sharp suit give a hint the 30-year-old’s business is special. As a bookie working the illegal betting rings, Khan – not his real name – takes home in a year what it would take the average man 115 to earn. Here on the heaving streets of Lahore it is as far from a genteel Lords test as you could imagine. At the roundabout near the Gaddafi Cricket Stadium where Sri Lanka’s cricketers were attacked by terrorists last year, police tout AK47s. The debris of a suicide bombing, which left nearly 30 dead, is being swept up a few streets away. It is this chaotic setting that the illegal bookies whose power straddles cricket call home. The Daily Mirror today blows the lid on the dodgy bets, rigged matches and endemic corruption eating away at the “gentleman’s gameâ€. Our investigation unveils the huge profits bent bookmakers in Lahore make routinely from international matches across the globe. And we can reveal how poverty-stricken punters in Pakistan are the ones who really suffer when matches are fixed. For days we had tried to set up a meeting with one of the illegal bookies in Pakistan’s cricket capital. We were told most still fear reprisals following widespread anger at the allegations surrounding the Pakistan test team. But eventually one, Khan, agreed to be interviewed. In cricket betting for five years, he is deeply embedded in match-fixing. And, as long as we kept his identity secret, he was happy to explain how he makes nearly £270,000 a year tax free. A staggering sum in a region where earnings average between £100 and £200 a month. He lives a playboy lifestyle, with a luxury property and flash cars. “I rent out a separate flat for my business because it is totally illegal,†married Khan says. “I have seven people in a room on phones all the time. When people say they will pay up over the phone this is a contract. “The reason I’ve managed to do so well here in Pakistan is that people will bet on anything in cricket. Cricket is the perfect sport, much more than football, because there are so many aspects of the match you can give odds on.†Last week’s revelation that Pakistan’s bowlers allegedly threw no-balls to order was no shock to Khan. He takes bets on no-balls, which opening batsmen will make 50 and even who will win the toss. Another seemingly rigged bet is when people predict the score after a certain number of overs, even how it will end in a specific number. Amongst his regular punters, about 20% already know the outcome when they place their stake, he admits. His biggest gamblers collectively often wager up to half a million pounds on apparently long odds. Khan can read the tell-tale signs of a fix. “The players’ body language is the key sign,†he went on. Whenever there is a very sudden batting collapse I am clear about this, or you can guess there is something going on when the captain chooses strange field placings.†Advertisement - article continues below » Bookmakers make their money through those without criminal connections who are not privy to the insider information, he said. These unlucky betters unwittingly provide a pot for pay-outs to fixers, dishonest players and a cut for the bookies. So widespread is the desperation in some parts of Lahore that punters place wagers on incidents in the street. Another syndicate insider said: “I heard of one instance recently where a bookie took bets by a cemetery. “He was giving odds on whether the person in the coffin was male or female. The gravedigger confirmed the sex of the person he was burying before he paid out. “Another time a guy took bets on the colour of the next motorbike to crash at a busy junction. There are smashes all the time so they were able to see several in a few hours.†To make so much in so little time, Khan had to be ruthless. He is matter-of-fact about meting out punishment beatings. “My average bet is probably over £20,000,†he reveals. “I deal with rich people and people who haven’t really got much money. “Sometimes I am a gentleman with my clients, sometimes I have to get tough. If people keep coming up with lame excuses I have to use force. I have some big guys who do that work for me.†Khan has to pay off bigger bookies to take out the loans he needs to pay out when a rigged bet comes in. Our fixer told us these bookies answer ultimately to notorious gang boss Dawood Ibrahim, Thought to be worth over £4billion, he is believed to ultimately control cricket match-fixing. The Indian-born racketeer, said to live in Karachi, made most of his money through drug trafficking and extortion. His daughter Mahrukh is married to Junaid Miandad, the son of legendary ex-Pakistan cricket captain Javed Miandad, although there is no suggestion either of them have been involved in illegal activity. The network of illegal betting syndicates stretches from Pakistan and India, to London and Johannesburg claims Khan. He claims politicians are involved in match-fixing and local police take bribes from bookies. So Khan was not shocked by what allegedly happened at Lords. He adds: “If Mazhar Majeed (The sports agent under investigation for match fixing) is guilty he is just small-fry. The rumour is he has been hung out to dry by one of the big syndicates that operate here and in India. “No one bets on league matches in Pakistan,†he says. “It’s always internationals.†Khan claims that teams have even thrown a series of matches after players were tempted by backhanders. “One team was supposed to lose three matches and they did,†Khan proudly claims. “There will always be players tempted by the money.†With that his phone rings again and he gets up to leave the table to take another wager from a mysterious punter. Before he goes there’s just time to ask if he’s scared of jail. He scoffs: “The courts would probably just hold me overnight. I’d pay bail, then be freed.†Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/2010/09/04/pakistan-bookmakers-reveal-depth-of-cricket-match-fixing-scandal-115875-22535550/
Gunner_Mania Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 New allegations in NOTW tomorrow - 8 page special coming out Yaseer Hameed was asked to fix a test for 100,000£ and declined. ICC laying down 23 charges on But, Asif & Amir. Money that NOTW paid out has been traced back to Butt. ICC investigating a 4th player.
ali0786 Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Well done Yasir...ek to insaan ka bacha nikla..
asterix Posted September 4, 2010 Author Posted September 4, 2010 http://www.skysports.com/radio http://www.justin.tv/road_wars#/w/363614208
asterix Posted September 4, 2010 Author Posted September 4, 2010 http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/943390/Get-more-cricket-match-fixing-revelations-in-the-News-of-the-World.html
SachDan Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Following last weekend's match-fixing world exclusive, the News of the World is to reveal sensational new revelations over 18 pages of tomorrow's newspaper. This includes: * The News of the World publishing full details of the ENTIRE investigation starting in January this year including printing the transcripts of every meeting, conversation, email and text exchange. * An explosive claim by a member of the Pakistan touring team that some of his team-mates ARE cheats. Opening batsman Yasir Hameed tells us bent teammates were fixing "almost every match". He said: "They've been caught. Only the ones that get caught are branded crooks."They were doing it (fixing) in almost every match. God knows what they were up to. Scotland Yard was after them for ages."It makes me angry because I'm playing my best and they are trying to lose." * How the ICC are now probing a FOURTH Pakistan touring player over match-rigging claims. The News of the World is not naming this player for legal reasons. * The three suspended Pakistan players face a staggering TWENTY THREE ICC charges between them - each charge runs to six pages. * Exposing the rantings of the Pakistan High Commissioner who outrageously claimed that the News of the World had "set up" Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif. CCTV evidence proves the meeting with fixer Mazhar Majeed took place before any "no balls" had been bowled. Dated receipts and emails also prove the money handover happened BEFORE the "no balls". * Pakistan Captain Salman Butt was warned FIVE TIMES about his responsibilities to report any irregular contact with outside agencies. And investigators have recovered between £10,000 and £15,000 of News of the World bills from the Pakistan captain's hotel room. Sorry poyz you all are nailed! NOTW :adore:
kabira Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 can't wait to read more. LOL There will be some egg in face for that HC dude.
asterix Posted September 4, 2010 Author Posted September 4, 2010 Yasir Hamid.. Respec.. Poyz.. You Haz Been PWNED!!
Gunner_Mania Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Exposing the rantings of the Pakistan High Commissioner who outrageously claimed that the News of the World had "set up" Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif. CCTV evidence proves the meeting with fixer Mazhar Majeed took place before any "no balls" had been bowled. Dated receipts and emails also prove the money handover happened BEFORE the "no balls". This one is for the HC
Karan114 Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Yasir Hameed is a RAW/Hindu Zionist/BCCI agent
Rajiv Posted September 4, 2010 Posted September 4, 2010 Thats it Yasir Hameed is another RAW Agent His real Name is Yashpal Hardeep
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