US to give pakistan $2 Billion more to "fight" terrorists

[seedhi]

The pakistani leeching off of the US in the name of "fighting" terrorism has to be THE BIGGEST CON JOB in the history of human civilization. These $2 billion are going to be used for any but fighting the Taliban, but who knows in which alternate universe does the US govt reside.

Sources: U.S. finalizing aid package to help Pakistan fight extremists Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration is putting the final touches on a security assistance package totaling as much as $2 billion over five years to help Pakistan fight extremists on its border with Afghanistan, senior U.S. officials and diplomatic sources tell CNN. The aid is expected to be announced later this week when Pakistani officials are in Washington to hold high-level talks. The package aims to address Pakistan's insistence it does not have the capability to go after terrorists, and needs more support from the United States, the sources said. The aid will help the Pakistanis purchase helicopters, weapons systems and equipment to intercept communications. It falls under the United States' Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program, which provides grants and loans to countries to purchase weapons and defense equipment produced in the United States. It also includes more counterinsurgency assistance to Pakistani troops and a program allowing members of the Pakistani military to study at American war colleges. The $2 billion package is on top of billions of dollars the United States already gives Pakistan in military aid and a $7.5 billion aid package over five years in non-military counter-terrorism assistance approved by Congress last year. "They key is to beef up their ability to go after militants, it can't be diverted to other threats," one senior U.S. official said. Pakistan has long claimed its military is geared toward defending itself against threats from countries like India, and does not have the kind of equipment it needs to fight insurgents. U.S. officials said they recognize Pakistan's current military hardware is not perfectly suited toward such operations, but made clear the new aid must be directed toward fighting extremists, rather than India. "We recognize they need different kinds of capacities and more of them to handle extremists form within their own border," one official said. "They do need more capacity and the kinds of capabilities that are geared toward fighting extremists, rather than a major land conflict." U.S. officials acknowledge the Pakistani military is stretched thin since this summer's devastating floods, and has had to divert resources from the fight against extremists to conduct relief efforts. They hope the new security assistance will address the military's resource limitations so they can redouble efforts to go after militants. "There is an expectation with that capacity comes a greater effort," a senior official said. The aid comes on the heels of a White House report sent to Congress earlier this month which uses unusually tough language to suggest the ally is not doing nearly enough to confront the Taliban and al Qaeda, despite repeated Obama administration claims in public that Pakistan is working hard to crack down on militants The White House assessment, obtained by CNN, is particularly tough on Pakistan's inability to make gains in South Waziristan, where many analysts believe key al Qaeda leaders have gained a safe haven to use as a base to plot terror attacks against Western targets. The report notes that from March to June, the Pakistani military "continued to avoid military engagements that would put it in direct conflict with Afghan Taliban or [al Qaeda] forces in North Waziristan. This is as much a political choice as it is a reflection of an under-resourced military prioritizing its targets." "The capacity issue is very real," another senior official said. "It's not like they could just go into North Waziristan if they wanted to and succeed. There is an issue of political will but the capacity issue remains extremely important." The official said the multi-year assistance package is designed to provide the Pakistanis with "an issue of predictability and consistency" in U.S. military assistance, which has typically been done on a year-to-year basis. Pakistan has long voiced concerns the United States is not going to remain engaged with the region over the long term. "We need to demonstrate we are in it for more than six months to a year. This offers a time horizon and allows them to chill out about that," the official said. Even with the harsh White House report, U.S. officials do acknowledge that Pakistan has made some progress in combating terrorism, noting the country has suffered thousands of casualties as a result of its campaign against extremists in its tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. Suspected U.S. drone strikes have also increased in Pakistan, killing dozens of high-level militants in the tribal areas. Although the U.S. does not comment on drone strikes, Pakistani officials have said they could not be done without Pakistani cooperation. While in Pakistan in July, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the Pakistani government has become "very serious" about fighting the violent extremist organizations within its borders. At the time, Clinton alluded to the security assistance being announced this week, while telling reporters the United States was "working on a multi-year package with the Pakistanis." Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Pakistan's military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, are leading a Pakistani delegation arriving Tuesday for the U.S.-Pakistan Strategic Dialogue, three days of meetings starting Wednesday with Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The talks address all facets of the relationship between Washington and Islamabad, but counterterrorism cooperation will be a major aspect of the talks. "Pakistan has taken aggressive action within its borders. But clearly, this is an ongoing threat and more needs to be done," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Monday. "That will be among the issues talked about." http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/10/18/us.pakistan.aid/index.html?hpt=T1

[Online]

Translation: Here is $2bn for you to support militant activities against India while we continue our drone strikes into Pakistani air space.

[Roshanrocks]

zardari will use 1.1 billion to make a new home to break ambani's record

[gaurav92]

zardari will use 1.1 billion to make a new home to break ambani's record

:giggle:

[Rajiv]

But the Americans are inching towards a scheme where they are almost purchasing Pak and the freedom to call the shots

[yoda]

:wall:

[jf1gp_1]

But the Americans are inching towards a scheme where they are almost purchasing Pak and the freedom to call the shots

soon pak army will be run by US govt, which in a few years will be handed by some pvt firm which a couple of more yrs down the lane will outsource it all to India to cut cost . We win.

[Sir john]

i think USA will rule pak oneday.

[bhanu]

Us giving 2 billion to open the supply route for natu trucks

[punjabi_khota]

Us giving 2 billion to open the supply route for natu trucks

you should get Rs 500 out of that 2 billion

[ViruRulez]

Obama mission: Billions to Pakistan, billions from India

WASHINGTON: The Obama administration is lining up at least $ 2 billion in fresh, new military aid to Pakistan even as it is lobbying for billions of dollars in defense sales to India ahead of the US President's visit to the region early November. Two weeks before the India trip however, the US is all set to shower yet another round of military largesse on its dubious ally, ostensibly to help it fight extremists, who by Washington's own accounts are fostered, protected, and promoted by Pakistan. The aid package is set to be announced during the US-Pakistan "strategic dialogue" – the second this year – starting Wednesday in Washington DC. The arms bonanza comes just weeks after India's defense minister AK Antony conveyed New Delhi's reservations to Washington about US arms to Pakistan invariably being lined up against India, something even the Obama administration has on occasions recognized. It also comes amid stunning disclosures pointing to direct ISI (and therefore the Pakistani state's) involvement in the 26/11 terrorist attacks on Mumbai, which sites President Obama is expected to visit on November 6. Six Americans were among 172 people killed in the carnage. On top of this, a top Nato official said this week that Osama bin Laden was living in "relative comfort" in Pakistan, protected by locals and some members of the country's intelligence agencies, following up similar charges earlier by secretary of state Hillary Clinton. Despite these developments, the Obama administration evidently places its trust in Pakistan's credentials in the war on terror, and has determined that Islamabad needs to be militarily strengthened to fight extremism. It is getting around the Indian protest that it is needlessly arming an adventurous and unrepentant ally that uses terrorism as a state policy by terming the military aid a "security assistance package." American officials who have briefed the media on the subject ahead of the "strategic dialogue" say the package, totaling as much as $2 billion over five years, is aimed at helping Pakistan fight extremists on its border with Afghanistan. The package will be in the form of financial aid under the American Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program, which in turn will help Pakistan purchase weapons and defense equipment like helicopter gunships and communication equipment produced in the United States. It is aimed at addressing Pakistan's insistence it does not have the capability to go after terrorists, and needs more support from the United States, according to the New York Times and CNN, which both reported the development on Monday. The latest US largesse for Pakistan, which is separate from the five-year, $ 7.5 billion aid under the Kerry-Lugar-Berman bill, comes even as Washington is lobbying fiercely for greater Indian defense purchases worth billions of dollars as New Delhi seeks to shore up its military. India has finalized nearly $ 10 billion worth of military purchases from the US in recent months, including a deal in 2009 for eight Boeing P-81 maritime patrol aircraft worth $2.1 billion and the sale this year of 10 Boeing C-17 Globemaster III Aircrafts worth $5.8 billion, the largest defense deal with India in US history. An even bigger piece of action is in the pipeline – a purchase worth more than $ 10 billion for 126 Multi-Role Combat Aircraft that New Delhi is seeking, and for which US companies Boeing and Lockheed Martin are in the race. While India's will be paying hard cash for all these transactions, Pakistan, which was already broke before it was overrun by floods of biblical proportions and reduced to begging, will essentially be getting freebie military hardware from the US in the name of fighting terrorism. The US aid comes despite criticism from Washington that Pakistan's wealthy, including its political leadership, is ducking from paying taxes, and US tax-payers are having to pick up the tab for Pakistan. In fact, ahead of the US-Pakistan strategic dialogue, Pakistan has made no move to reform its tax collection as demanded by secretary of state Hillary Clinton and top European Union officials recently. Instead, the Pakistani delegation is coming to Washington with a laundry list of demands, including a nuclear deal that will bring it on par with India, greater US role in resolving the Kashmir issue, and taking into account Pakistan's interests in Afghanistan. The Pakistanis are even pressing for a stopover by President Obama in Islamabad during his November visit to India, according to some reports. The Pakistani delegation for the "strategic dialogue" this week will be formally led by the country's foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, and will have cabinet ministers of defense and finance, among others. But the real power and influence behind the Pakistani push for greater US aid will be the country's army chief, Pervez Ashfaq Kayani, who is part of the team, notwithstanding Washington's reservations about the military's continuing influence in Islamabad.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Obama-mission-Billions-to-Pakistan-billions-from-India/articleshow/6776948.cms US giving $2 billion aid to Pak to train and send terrorists in India and then selling India $10 billion worth of arms. I dont trust Pakis but I wont trust US blindly too. Daal me kuch kaala hai kya. :dontknow:

[coffee_rules]

India is financing that 2 bil. Too bad we got faltu weapons from the Russians all the while, we are compelled to buy from USA. India bought some weapons from countries like France, Israel, UK etc.

[Clarke]

US giving $2 billion aid to Pak to train and send terrorists in India and then selling India $10 billion worth of arms. I dont trust Pakis but I wont trust US blindly too. Daal me kuch kaala hai kya. :dontknow:

EXACTLY! This manure policy of rewarding the global headquarters of terror has to effin stop. Barrack Hussein Obama, i hate to say this but i hope ur party is thrashed left right and center next month. So much for all the restraint post 26/11, any other country with some self respect would've given a fitting answer. The only person who seems to notice is defense minister A. K. Antony who made consistent noise about all these explosive gift baskets ending up in our neighborhood. Expect things to continue as usual, the F-18 shall be picked as the MMRCA winner while Obama continues to bash Bangalore and commend his pure allies.

[ViruRulez]

EXACTLY! This manure policy of rewarding the global headquarters of terror has to effin stop. Barrack Hussein Obama' date=' i hate to say this but i hope ur party is thrashed left right and center next month. So much for all the restraint post 26/11, any other country [b']with some self respect would've given a fitting answer. The only person who seems to notice is defense minister A. K. Antony who made consistent noise about all these explosive gift baskets ending up in our neighborhood. Expect things to continue as usual, the F-18 shall be picked as the MMRCA winner while Obama continues to bash Bangalore and commend his pure allies.

Self respect or ethics is the last thing US will do. No offense but US are one of those countries who will go to any extent for their own benefit. And this has been the case with US not only now but since at least half a century. They are the ones who have openly supported Paki terrorism before anybody else did. They are the ones who created terrorists for their own benefit in the cold war. They would just go to any extent for their own benefit and are one of the most selfish nations on earth (I am saying about US govt. and not citizens who are very good). Even UK is a more ethical nation compared to US though UK has been our colonizer for 200 years. So, I would not trust US blindly. It should be a give and take relationship and nothing more.

[Clarke]

Self respect or ethics is the last thing US will do. No offense but US are one of those countries who will go to any extent for their own benefit. And this has been the case with US not only now but since at least half a century. They are the ones who have openly supported Paki terrorism before anybody else did. They are the ones who created terrorists for their own benefit in the cold war. They would just go to any extent for their own benefit and are one of the most selfish nations on earth (I am saying about US govt. and not citizens who are very good). Even UK is a more ethical nation compared to US though UK has been our colonizer for 200 years. So' date=' I would not trust US blindly. It should be a give and take relationship and nothing more.[/quote'] The self respect and impetus has to be ours. Our govt report says senior ISI officials were involved in 26/11 planning. Which other nation with a million strong military would tolerate such rubbish ? I was hopeful that our diplomacy would yield long term results but this is just :WTF: Hey kids, u need to stay in control and stop murdering innocent people abroad, now here's a few billion, have fun :wall: