No UDRS in South Africa-India Tests

[Gunner_Mania]

No' date=' I think that is not applicable either. It should entirely ICC prerogative – not the host or visiting nation’s. After all, this is an ICC initiative, not a BCCI or PCB initiative. They’re clearly trying out this system in a trial basis, which will later either be institutionalized formally (pending upon review of course) or ditched altogether. Most people have forgotten, UDRS is not something that is status-quo right now, its currently on trial. Such being the case, why should individual member countries have the option of simply opting out? Plus, if you want to try something to see if it works or not, then whats the point of giving countries the option of not using it?[/quote'] I don't think it is on trial anymore. Its just ICC is not strong enough to impose its views on all the memeber boards. Its just sat on its backside twiddling thumbs not wanting to take sides. The issue with UDRS at the moment is its the host broadcasters who are footing the bill for it and depending on how rich they are and the technology they can afford they are choosing to either have hotspot are not. The UDRS mandatory requirement is the super slomo camera, audible stump mic and the virtual eye / hawk eye ball tracking technology. This is pretty much available with all broadcasters. ICC just needs to say that is enough and make UDRS mandatory.

[ViruRulez]

Don't just blame the BCCI' date=' also blame the senior players who don't like it (apart from Sehwag who has said he is in favor of it).[/quote'] I think the board needs to give the decision and not senior players. Anyways why would the seniors be against it. All our seniors have been victims of pathetic umpiring time and again in all the recent series and I dont see any reason why they would oppose.

[saneindian]

If the teams playing India want to have UDRS let them use UDRS. Just because a few seniors from our side dont want this, doesnt mean we keep making stupid decisions like this. Our seniors dont believe in it, ok fine we dont use it. But SA want the system, so let them have it, If its not 100% correct (as per the seniors), it will hurt them. But at least let them have it if they want it. Every other cricket team wants it, no other captains has a problem, Dravid , Sehwag and Gambhir have said they too welcome the use of technology, but just because Sachin and DHoni dont like it should not mean we continue to deprive other teams from having UDRS when they play against us.

[vaibhav_delhi]

Losing a close test match with a couple of wrong umpiring calls esp. against sachin would serve them well. Deeth hain yarr indian players.

[Feed]

Sehwag in favour of UDRS for series in South Africa The BCCI is opposed to it but Indian opener Virender Sehwag on Sunday gave a big thumbs up to the controversial Umpires Decision Review System which has not been favoured even by his idol Sachin Tendulkar. More... Sehwag in favour of UDRS for series in South Africa Press Trust Of India Mumbai, October 31, 2010 The BCCI is opposed to it but Indian opener Virender Sehwag on Sunday gave a big thumbs up to the controversial Umpires Decision Review System which has not been favoured even by his idol Sachin Tendulkar. "I am a big fan of UDRS. I want it to be there for the India-New Zealand series, India-South Africa series and in the World Cup. But this is my personal opinion," said the star India opener at a media conference here today. Sehwag, who has been signed up by cricket legend Sunil Gavaskar's company Professional Management Group in a five-year deal for handling his endorsements, said that he favoured the UDRS as he had got the rough end of the umpiring stick on a few occasions in the past. "I was given out two times when I was not out and in such a situation could have gone in for a referral that would have helped me continue to bat," said the opener, who often makes attack his first form of defence. Tendulkar, whom Sehwag described as his idol, has consistently been opposed to UDRS as he is not certain the technology has become fool-proof to depend on it for the TV umpire to take a referral call on appeals involving more than close run-outs, stumpings and bump ball "catches". India captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni has also been not in favour of the UDRS but another senior cricketer Rahul Dravid had recently expressed his support for the referrals. The Indian cricket board has also consistently opposed its introduction in bilateral series after the team got the rough end of the referrals in the series in Sri Lanka in 2008, when Dhoni took a break.

[vaibhav_delhi]

Veeru, pls also convince sachin n co.

[Lord]

Sachin also raised questions on Hawkeye but was favour in HotSpot.I think they should have latest technology if they wanna make it mandatory.otherwise players r right to oppose it

[vaibhav_delhi]

Sachin also raised questions on Hawkeye but was favour in HotSpot.I think they should have latest technology if they wanna make it mandatory.otherwise players r right to oppose it

I bet you wont be saying this if india had lost the 1st test match due to wrong call on Gambhir n Ishant.

[fineleg]

Can BCCI pls. override SRT and MSD and please please implement the UDRS for South Africa series :weebee:

[SachDan]

No UDRS in South Africa-India Tests Firdose Moonda November 30, 2010 The Umpire Decision Review System (UDRS) is unlikely to be a part of India's upcoming Test tour of South Africa because India are against its use, according to sources in Cricket South Africa (CSA). "[We] will definitely not be using it. India are not keen to use it," the CSA official told ESPNcricinfo. Corrie van Zyl, the South Africa coach, said his team had been expecting this development, given India's stance on the issue. South Africa have used the UDRS in other home series, most recently against England in 2009-10. "We are not going to use it and thats the end of it," he said. "I like UDRS and it does eradicate a lot of decisions that are wrong, which can only be good for the game. "I'm not disappointed, I almost knew it was not going to happen in any case, so it's not a major disappointment, and it will still be a very good series without it." Graeme Smith, the South Africa captain, had said in October that the UDRS needed to be implemented consistently and that technology was the way forward in cricket. "I think if the UDRS is going to be successful it needs to be implemented properly by the ICC and not on a 50-50 basis like we have seen so far," he had said. "It must be used all of the time and not for selective series' like we see now." India have played a series in which the UDRS was used only once - in Sri Lanka in 2008. They struggled with their referrals on that tour, getting only one review right, while Sri Lanka successfully challenged 11 decisions. Since then the UDRS has been used in Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand and West Indies and has found favour with several captains and players. The Indians and the BCCI, however, are firmly opposed to the system, even though the ICC have approved its use in principle during the 2011 World Cup. MS Dhoni, the India captain, reiterated his reluctance to accept the system during the recent home series against New Zealand, calling for the standard of on-field umpiring to be improved instead.

[Guest prince]

No UDRS in South Africa-India Tests No UDRS in South Africa-India Tests

The Umpire Decision Review System (UDRS) is unlikely to be a part of India's upcoming Test tour of South Africa because India are against its use, according to sources in Cricket South Africa (CSA). "[We] will definitely not be using it. India are not keen to use it," the CSA official told ESPNcricinfo. Corrie van Zyl, the South Africa coach, said his team had been expecting this development, given India's stance on the issue. South Africa have used the UDRS in other home series, most recently against England in 2009-10. "We are not going to use it and thats the end of it," he said. "I like UDRS and it does eradicate a lot of decisions that are wrong, which can only be good for the game. "I'm not disappointed, I almost knew it was not going to happen in any case, so it's not a major disappointment, and it will still be a very good series without it." Graeme Smith, the South Africa captain, had said in October that the UDRS needed to be implemented consistently and that technology was the way forward in cricket. "I think if the UDRS is going to be successful it needs to be implemented properly by the ICC and not on a 50-50 basis like we have seen so far," he had said. "It must be used all of the time and not for selective series' like we see now." India have played a series in which the UDRS was used only once - in Sri Lanka in 2008. They struggled with their referrals on that tour, getting only one review right, while Sri Lanka successfully challenged 11 decisions. Since then the UDRS has been used in Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand and West Indies and has found favour with several captains and players. The Indians and the BCCI, however, are firmly opposed to the system, even though the ICC have approved its use in principle during the 2011 World Cup. MS Dhoni, the India captain, reiterated his reluctance to accept the system during the recent home series against New Zealand, calling for the standard of on-field umpiring to be improved instead. http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2010/content/story/489748.html

We are going to have UDRS in 2011 World Cup, I think we need to get used to it.

[gaurav92]

Old News.Mods merge this thread with the other ones.

[ZodiaC]

What about the worldcup then? Are we gonna boycott it or wot:dontknow: NZ series was perfect for this.. But thankfully bcci & our seniors won't learn unless another KLPD takes place.

[vaibhav_delhi]

UDRS in its current form stil has loopholes: 1. If the team has used up both its reviews, it cant challenge a potential wrong decision. Like Hussey was out plumb lbw, but not given and the aussie didnt have reviews left to challenge the decision. 2. If someone is out , and the on-field umpires gives not out and if the bowlng team do not realize or are hesitant to use the review. These loopholes can be re-mediated only if the review by the players is scrapped. Ideally the 3rd umpire should be jumping in if he sees any wrong decison happening on the field.

[Sachin=GOD]

These loopholes can be re-mediated only if the review by the players is scrapped. Ideally the 3rd umpire should be jumping in if he sees any wrong decison happening on the field.

that could be the solution to the current shortcomings of UDRS but I doubt that the players will accept it.

[Gunner_Mania]

UDRS in its current form stil has loopholes: 1. If the team has used up both its reviews, it cant challenge a potential wrong decision. Like Hussey was out plumb lbw, but not given and the aussie didnt have reviews left to challenge the decision. 2. If someone is out , and the on-field umpires gives not out and if the bowlng team do not realize or are hesitant to use the review. These loopholes can be re-mediated only if the review by the players is scrapped. Ideally the 3rd umpire should be jumping in if he sees any wrong decison happening on the field.

why do you even need onfield umpire? Why can't the 3rd umpire just sit and watch the game on TV and do all the umpiring? Everytime a bowler balls up they look up on a big screen to see whether it is a wide/noball/byw/legbye/out /not out/end of over etc.

[Sachinism]

why do you even need onfield umpire? Why can't the 3rd umpire just sit and watch the game on TV and do all the umpiring? Everytime a bowler balls up they look up on a big screen to see whether it is a wide/noball/byw/legbye/out /not out/end of over etc.

:cantstop: Well you need someone to fix up the stumps

[Sachin=GOD]

:giggle:

[putrevus]

UDRS was introduced to eliminate the shockers but the captains are using it as a weapon.They are challenging the decisions which are marginal at best in effort to gain supremacy when ever there is big partnership developing they want to contest the close calls. By doing so they are left without any reviews for later stages and it is back to square one, Indians were very badly affected by that in SL series where almost every review they took was wasted what made it worse is when ever they they thought they had a wicket SL challenged it and somehow got it over turned mind you UDRS was not as refined then. Well from then on guys like Sachin are willing to live with clunkers and not go for UDRS but it is affecting the bowlers who ought to have more say on whether URDS should be used or not as they have to take 20 wickets.Instances like Adharmasena's non call on Williamson who was out on 54 but was not given, he went to make 131 that non call changed whole match and series. Same thing happened with Symonds in Sydney test that non call changed whole series not just that test, if our batsmen get out due to UDRS so be it we have plenty of them but if let opposition batsmen get away with a umpiring mistakes we do not have enough bowling to overcome it.

[Lord]

UDRS was introduced to eliminate the shockers but the captains are using it as a weapon.They are challenging the decisions which are marginal at best in effort to gain supremacy when ever there is big partnership developing they want to contest the close calls. By doing so they are left without any reviews for later stages and it is back to square one, Indians were very badly affected by that in SL series where almost every review they took was wasted what made it worse is when ever they they thought they had a wicket SL challenged it and somehow got it over turned mind you UDRS was not as refined then. Well from then on guys like Sachin are willing to live with clunkers and not go for UDRS but it is affecting the bowlers who ought to have more say on whether URDS should be used or not as they have to take 20 wickets.Instances like Adharmasena's non call on Williamson who was out on 54 but was not given, he went to make 131 that non call changed whole match and series. Same thing happened with Symonds in Sydney test that non call changed whole series not just that test, if our batsmen get out due to UDRS so be it we have plenty of them but if let opposition batsmen get away with a umpiring mistakes we do not have enough bowling to overcome it.

well said