So Disheartening

[Ram]

Im no expert but what I have said is accurate. Just basic sports science knowledge actually.

What you consider as ‘knowledge’, is a just a convenient mix of common misconceptions and urban legends.

[Serani]

What you consider as ‘knowledge’' date=' is a just a convenient mix of common misconceptions and urban legends.[/quote'] Yes having a balanced diet is just myth, thats why Indian bowlers eat all their fatty foods and no meat and can still bowl express pace. The benefits of gym work is just ridiculous too, players dont have to work out they can bowl rapid no matter what. And fast twitch muscle fibres thats bull **** too.. Yes I am being sarcastic...Maybe this attitude is why India have never produced a good fast bowler. I studied it at A level so am more qualified than pretty much everyone on here to comment on sports science.

[Ram]

Yes having a balanced diet is just myth, thats why Indian bowlers eat all their fatty foods and no meat and can still bowl express pace. The benefits of gym work is just ridiculous too, players dont have to work out they can bowl rapid no matter what. And fast twitch muscle fibres thats bull **** too.. Yes I am being sarcastic...Maybe this attitude is why India have never produced a good fast bowler. I studied it at A level so am more qualified than pretty much everyone on here to comment on sports science.

First of all, you don’t need A level qualifications to state the banal truths that you just made about gym work and balanced diet, even a child knows these things. But you’re obviously completely clueless about the all-important connections between bio-mechanics and fast bowling. But the part that I find most ludicrous is the following inference is that India is ‘inherently’ incapable of producing fast bowlers. That is just pure nonsense. That is as dumb as saying Australia is incapable of producing wristy batsmen or the West Indies is incapable of producing world class wrist spinners. To imply we’re racially or nationally segregated to produce certain types of cricketers lacks no scientific fact or evidence. There might have a slither of a chance for making a case that the likelihood of India producing a fast bowler versus England producing one could potentially vary, if only marginally, but even that needs strenuous scientific study to prove one way or the other. Your so-called inference about which type of people can produce fast bowlers and which cannot is nothing but an oversimplification of a complex scientific question that you obviously don’t know much about and a simplistic, if not grossly inaccurate reading of history.

[Clarke]

I thought it was a combination of genetics/coaching/facilities/pitches/climate. What's with the war against lentils and spices :((

[hari504504]

I thought it was a combination of genetics/coaching/facilities/pitches/climate. What's with the war against lentils and spices :((

:haha:..yeah. But intriguiing fact, agree on coaching,facilities,climate (not the genetics part.. We've some really tall/naturally-built groups in our population too). But what do you think of the fact that even among the Indians overseas who play for other countries (Patels,Bopara..etc)..they seem to be carrying on with the same 'Indian strengths' of batting and spin bowling..ie..is there any indian origin player in ANY domestic circuit who is known as a pacer ??.. I can't even think of one..:hmmm:

[punjabi_khota]

Unless some of you fools believe 50 years of separation can drastically change genetics, all Pakistani pacers are of Indian origin :mad:

[rkt.india]

:haha:..yeah. But intriguiing fact, agree on coaching,facilities,climate (not the genetics part.. We've some really tall/naturally-built groups in our population too). But what do you think of the fact that even among the Indians overseas who play for other countries (Patels,Bopara..etc)..they seem to be carrying on with the same 'Indian strengths' of batting and spin bowling..ie..is there any indian origin player in ANY domestic circuit who is known as a pacer ??.. I can't even think of one..:hmmm:

its more about genetics than anything else

[Serani]

First of all, you don’t need A level qualifications to state the banal truths that you just made about gym work and balanced diet, even a child knows these things. But you’re obviously completely clueless about the all-important connections between bio-mechanics and fast bowling. But the part that I find most ludicrous is the following inference is that India is ‘inherently’ incapable of producing fast bowlers. That is just pure nonsense. That is as dumb as saying Australia is incapable of producing wristy batsmen or the West Indies is incapable of producing world class wrist spinners. To imply we’re racially or nationally segregated to produce certain types of cricketers lacks no scientific fact or evidence. There might have a slither of a chance for making a case that the likelihood of India producing a fast bowler versus England producing one could potentially vary, if only marginally, but even that needs strenuous scientific study to prove one way or the other. Your so-called inference about which type of people can produce fast bowlers and which cannot is nothing but an oversimplification of a complex scientific question that you obviously don’t know much about and a simplistic, if not grossly inaccurate reading of history.

Obviously no nation is inherently incapable of producing fast bowlers but India are at a disadvanatge genetically so say the Afro Caribbeans. Add to this the Indian attitudes towards excercise and conditioning, poor diet and just the fact that young Indians would prefer to be batsman then its obvious why India has struggled to produce faster bowlers. Obviously there are other factors aswell but I guess we will see in the coming generation if the modern coaching techniques wich India now have will help produce fast bowlers like the rest of the world.