Zelig Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 As long as I could remember - 1992 - Pakistan (?) 1996 - West Indies (?) 1999 - New Zealand 2003 - Kenya 2007 - New Zealand 2011 - ???? My pick is Bangladesh/West Indies. Bangladesh at home have done quite well in recent times and are expected to give a good fight to Eng, SA, WI and India. A win against one of the top four teams in the group could put them in the QF and if they get to meet Pak, NZ or for that matter even Australia (on spinner friendly wicky), they will surely fancy their chances. If Gayle fires, WI might well reach the final four. Their core group - Gayle, Shiv and Sarwan - has got quite a good record in India. Their bowling is a worry and their batting is inconsistent but they have two players in Gayle and Pollard who can win matches on their own. So, on their day, they can be quite dangerous. Lil Bravo is also crucial to their chances.
Cricketics Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 West Indies have surprised teams in big tournaments. They did well in champions trophy 06. I believe they should do well in this years competition.
jibranpatel15 Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Bangladesh r the real dark horses. They gonna play all Group games at HOME and that will prove handy for them
HowardRoark Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I have chosen Pakistan as I do not see them as genuine contenders and are the more capable among the non-contenders.
Zelig Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 :clap: you missed ireland name :wall: C'mon dude, do you seriously think Ireland has a chance of progressing to QF and beyond :blink: Zimbabwe too can't be discounted. They have some good batsmen at the top and three decent spinners in Price, Utseya and Cremer.
ShahidAfridi Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Pakistan's last 2 ODI series England Away - 3-2 Defeat South Africa Neutral - 3-2 Defeat Not a bad sign.............
Hindustani Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Pakistan > Bangladesh > West Indies > New Zealand > Zimbabwe
Mariyam Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Bangladesh. I wouldn't be too surprised if they ended up third in the group behind India & England.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 bangladesh, without a doubt. they have some good spinners who will relish bowling on their own pitches throughout the tournament. their strength is their batting lineup, with tamim at the top, shakib in the middle order and some good innings builders like that little wicketkeeper and mahammadullullah. in recent times, they beat NZ 4-0 at home, beat SL at home (should have won the final), and i remember them giving India a good game as well. they have had enuff experience of international cricket against good sides and finally have players that can compete when i look at Bangladesh's schedule, i can see their matches against SA and WI having 'UPSET' written all over them. south afrika will struggle against their spin, and WI are just shyte
Late Cut Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 The East Pakistanis for all the reasons mentioned above, plus the new mystery super duper "butterfly" ball that they bowl. :hysterical:
Zelig Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 The East Pakistanis for all the reasons mentioned above' date=' plus the new mystery super duper "butterfly" ball that they bowl. :hysterical:[/quote'] WTH is a butterfly ball :idunno:
fineleg Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Prediction: Banglistan will do well in 2011 world cup. They have a lot of home games, and the spinners there can choke some famous teams. And Tamim and Shakib can bat well in those conditions too. Ashrafool will fail, but there may be one very good match winning knock from him, and the rest he'll flop.
Late Cut Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 WTH is a butterfly ball :idunno: Pasted from another, older thread on here. FYI Ian Pont is the infamous coach who hyped up the super fast, fast bowler Atul Sharma? who bowled with a Javelin throwing like technique, only to have the "mystery" bowler dissappear into lands unknown never to be heard or seen from again. PUNE (INDIA), Nov 8: Ian Pont, the Bangladesh bowling coach, has created a new slower ball that is claimed will revolutionise his pace bowlers armoury in time for the World Cup. The ‘Butterfly’ as it is known because it ‘flutters’ in its flight, is seen as the first delivery that behaves very differently to any other slower ball. The Bangladesh pace bowlers have been getting to grips the delivery in Dhaka for the first time this week with highly encouraging results. “I wanted to bring something new to our bowling attack that could have a devastating effect on opposition batsmenâ€, said Pont. “I sat down with fielding coach, Julian Fountain, and we both got our heads together. Since we both have baseball and pitching backgrounds, we tapped into what we knew about how a ball behaves in flight and the ‘Butterfly’ is the result. I predict it could be as useful as the back of the hand slower ball was when that first came in.†Pace bowlers, Mashrafe, Rubel, Shafiul, Rajib, Russel and Nazmul have been experimenting with the unusual grip in the nets. The ball, when bowled correctly, has zero rotation on it, something that makes the delivery completely unstable and changes the flight of the ball. The resulting outcome is a ball that can skip or hop in the air, drop out of the sky or simply dive down into the pitch when least expected. “I developed the SLOB (Slower Obsolete Delivery) a couple of years ago, which I see Brett Lee has been bowling a version of with great success. The Butterfly behaves in a similar way to the SLOB but can be bowled at lower speeds, even by spin bowlers. Whereas regular slower balls rely on a change of pace or even unusual swing patterns to work, the Butterfly works by a change of trajectory. I think it will really confuse batsmen.†Pont’s innovation is well known and he is widely viewed as the world’s leading technical fast bowling expert. His ABSAT methodology for teaching both speed and accuracy simultaneously, helped a young Dale Steyn and an experienced Darren Gough to be more effective. The Bangladesh bowling attack under Pont’s coaching has genuinely improved. The 4-0 ‘Tiger Wash†of New Zealand last month proved this with all three of his pacers winning a match in the final over with cleverly bowled slower balls and accurate deliveries. The sight of a disconsolate Kyle Mills swinging at fresh air and having his leg stump flattened by a reverse swing yorker from Rubel Hossain with just 4 to win, created a memorable picture from the 5th ODI in Dhaka. Earlier in the week Pont started the process of teaching the Bangladesh bowlers more pace. Both Rajib and Russel are seeing an uplift in speed with later movement, too whilst still maintaining good accuracy. And batsmen Zunaed and Jahirul volunteered to learn the secrets of seam and swing bowling from Pont in a bid to add further depth to the Bangladesh squad. “If we can find a top order batsman to bowl some overs seam up, then I feel it will add to what we have available for the captain. To have a Ganguly, Collingwood or Ryder type bowler to call on gives us some options,†added Pont. But Pont’s big aim is to create an express pacer in Bangladesh even though he acknowledges that time is against him. “I feel we have bowlers like Rajib and Rubel capable of 144-150 kph speeds if we have the time to do that ABSAT development work with them. The schedule this year makes that tough but I would love to do that work. I am contracted only until the end of the World Cup with Bangladesh so time is also against me. But someone, somewhere in a country of almost 150m people is capable of becoming a speed sensation. The challenge is to put all the elements in place to make that happen,†he said. “If we can find that person, I can do it.†Ironically, Pont is only with Bangladesh because Lance Kluesener turned the position down, a decision Pont says opened the way for him to flex his coaching muscles. “The decision was made to offer me the position very quickly. What made this exciting is that Bangladesh is awash with unfulfilled promise and provided the players, time and finances are made available to create a world class team, anything is possible. It starts with the quality of coaching. Great coaches can win matches and winning matches makes great teams.†For now, Pont’s focus is on making the most of his resources in Bangladesh. “We are trying to make bowlers to be the best version of themselves as we can. This means also giving them an edge to compete with their higher ranked neighbours of India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. We have started that process. New Zealand discovered what the guys are capable of. And with the Butterfly in their locker, it might just be the difference the team needs to pull off the results that will hopefully now be an expectation rather than a surprise.â€
Zelig Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 ^ I read Ian Pont and stopped reading further :phehehe: Thx for posting it anyway :nice:
KKR88 Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 The East Pakistanis for all the reasons mentioned above' date=' plus the new mystery super duper "butterfly" ball that they bowl. :hysterical:[/quote'] please respect bangladesh by not calling it a east pakistan, they fought for it and kicked the pakies back to west pakistan
gaurav92 Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Bangladesh , Seriously ? I still feel, they will be thrashed badly.They do look strong, but my gut feeling is, that they will perform dismally. For me its gonna be one man army - W.Indies, and that man is none other than Chris Gayle. But I just can't understand, why are they messing with Pollard ? He is sent in at no. 7 even after showing that he is more than capable of batting at crucial no.4, 5 :idunno: And then, its mercurial Pakistan.You just can't write them off, they can come back with an unbelievable win from anywhere, and they may even collapse to Bangbros. :D.So these two are the dark horses.
jf1gp_1 Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 there are no dark horses this time around; none of the team listed is going to win. BD are not a force but they have earned enough respect that 4 bigger teams in the group are going to be much better prepared for them quarter final at best.
Desi Cartman Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 ^ I read Ian Pont and stopped reading further :phehehe: Thx for posting it anyway :nice: :cantstop:
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