rkt.india Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Too much is being read into the statements by MSD. He is handling the pacers fine and isn't hyping them up too much to put un-necessary pressure on them. But we will hang him for even stating the obvious, which is that our pacers need to do well if we have to win consistently away from home. Its not an indictment of anyone, its just summing up the overall series. our pacers mostly do well overseas... Link to comment
div Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 our pacers mostly do well overseas... Ishant Sharma :sherlock: Link to comment
saneindian Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 our pacers mostly do well overseas... Which they didn't in the English ODIs or in the CT in SA or in the ODIs in SA. So maybe the captain knows what he is talking about. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Ishant Sharma :sherlock: He was poor in SA, was struggling with action, but put whole-hearted effort in England, had taken 22 wickets in WI before that. He was brilliant in CB series in Australia. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Which they didn't in the English ODIs or in the CT in SA or in the ODIs in SA. So maybe the captain knows what he is talking about. and also we mostly had tried and tested pace bowling trundlers in all these matches. Link to comment
div Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 He was poor in SA' date=' was struggling with action, but put whole-hearted effort in England, had taken 22 wickets in WI before that. He was brilliant in CB series in Australia.[/quote'] Well ,his away test record is pretty poor against good batting line up Australia- 60 England-58 South Africa-48 Sri Lanka- 50 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Well ,his away test record is pretty poor against good batting line up Australia- 60 England-58 South Africa-48 Sri Lanka- 50 He will do all his records better in coming tours, especially in Aus, SA, and England. With regards to SL, SL pitches are mostly flat whenever we tour there. Link to comment
Blue Panther Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I was one of the biggest supporter of sreesanth, but he never seems to realaise that people would love him only if he performs on the field rather than dance stages. He wants to show off, he wants to enjoy, everything is ok if he backs it with perfomance on the field. I dont know when he is gonna realaise this. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Last yr , Sreesanth was kicked out of his aptt in the middle of the night by police . Reason - Late night partying with loud music and when the neighbors complained, he fought with them. Thats matured ? Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 This was in bangalore, btw ! Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Aaron has the best average in this series among pacers --- 10. VK -- 30 Umeash -- 38 Praveen Kumar -- 52 Seems that Praveen is keeping up his bad performance in India where conventional swing is not consistently possible. Hope selectors and captain are noticing this and play him only in places where swing is available. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 No need to make generalisation like that; just do not play him in India. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Instead of giving him the time off after he bowled hundreds and hundreds of overs in WI and England, they keep playing him. The dumbasses should have just rested him and played with Aaron. Dhoni can play as many matches as he wants, but at least give PK some rest. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Aaron has the best average in this series among pacers --- 10. VK -- 30 Umeash -- 38 Praveen Kumar -- 52 Seems that Praveen is keeping up his bad performance in India where conventional swing is not consistently possible. Hope selectors and captain are noticing this and play him only in places where swing is available. The thing is PK bowls in power play as well that is why he goes for runs too. Yadav and Aaron both will be test and judged when they start bowling with the new ball. Right now, Dhoni hostly bowled them in non-power play overs and on Indian flatbeds, any bowler can go for runs. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 The thing is PK bowls in power play as well that is why he goes for runs too. Yadav and Aaron both will be test and judged when they start bowling with the new ball. Right now' date=' Dhoni hostly bowled them in non-power play overs and on Indian flatbeds, any bowler can go for runs.[/quote'] Both Umesh and Aaron bowled more than PK in the death overs when you get tonked the most. Also, if we forget about comparisons, an average of 52 with 4 wickets from 5 matches is not really an impressive performance in absolute terms. We can't read too much into a single series performance but I am saying that his trend of ordinary performance in India continues. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Both Umesh and Aaron bowled more than PK in the death overs when you get tonked the most. Also' date=' if we forget about comparisons, an average of 52 with 4 wickets from 5 matches is not really an impressive performance in absolute terms. We can't read too much into a single series performance but I am saying that his trend of ordinary performance in India continues.[/quote'] It happens to most fast bowler whether Indian or others. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 It happens to most fast bowler whether Indian or others. But haven't we seen some Indian pacers who can reverse the ball or have some pace in the air perform better in India than overseas ? I think Srinath was one of them. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 As this one seems to be the most active pace thread, I am mentioning the following here only --- In the current Pak vs Sri Lanka test match Umar Gul is bowling around 126 k to 137 k, much lesser than his peak. Welegedara is bowling between 122 k and 129 k, I have seen him clock in the high 130 s consistently. Dhamika Prasad and Lakmal also bowling below their potential, often around the 130 k mark. So it is not Indians only who reduce pace. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 The notion that Indian pacers lose their pace or bowl less than their optimum pace is a whole lot of rubbish. Correctly pointed out by you here. I am thinking of creating a thread on this with detailed explaination as to how ridiculuos this is ! Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Guys playing in the Gulf, it is crazy , the heat , I believe players are coping to play in that environment, that might be the biggest reason for the drop in pace, this could be the most extreme place cricket is played. Link to comment
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