Bublu Bhuyan Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 This was issued by Pak on the 5th of May - The Pakistani military issued a sharply worded statement today warning the US not to conduct covert actions in the future and ordering a reduction of US military personnel inside the country. The statement, which was released by the Pakistani military's Inter-Services Public Relations branch, is attributed to comments made by General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the Chief of Army Staff, during a meeting with the corps commanders. The meeting was held just four days after the US launched a covert raid that killed Osama bin Laden inside a fortified safe house in the city of Abbottabad. "COAS [Chief of Army Staff] made it very clear that any similar action, violating the sovereignty of Pakistan, will warrant a review on the level of military / intelligence cooperation with the United States," the statement said. "The Corps Commanders were informed about the decision to reduce the strength of US military personnel in Pakistan to the minimum essential," it continued. And USA responds today with this - US drone aircraft fired missiles into a house in Pakistan's North Waziristan region on Friday, killing at least 17 suspected militants as Islamists protested against the killing of Osama bin Laden. Four drones took part in the first such attack since US special forces killed the al Qaeda leader onMonday not far from Islamabad, further straining ties between the strategic allies whose cooperation is needed to stabilise neighbouring Afghanistan. Facing relentless suicide bombings by Islamic militants and struggling with a stagnant economy, Pakistan's leaders now face criticism from all sides on bin Laden. Both Islamists and ordinary Pakistanis are questioning how their leaders can just stand by while the United States sends commandos deep inside the country into a garrison city to eliminate the al Qaeda chief. At the same time, suspicions that some Pakistani security forces might have known he was hiding in the country threaten to strain already uneasy ties with Washington. "The country's political and military leadership should immediately resign as they have failed to ensure the country's integrity," said Fareed Ahmed Paracha, a senior leader of the biggest Islamist political party, Jamaat-e-Islami, at a rally in the eastern city of Lahore. "This is an attack on Pakistan's sovereignty," said Paracha of the raid by US Navy SEALS that ended one of the most extensive manhunts in history. Pre-dominantly Muslim Pakistan has yet to see any major backlash since bin Laden's killing, but is death has angered Islamists. About 1,500 Islamists demonstrated near the city of Quetta, capital of Baluchistan province in the southwest, saying more figures like bin Laden would arise to wage holy war against the United States. "Jihad (holy war) against America will not stop with the death of Osama," Fazal Mohammad Baraich, a cleric, said amid shouts of "Down with America". "Osama bin Laden is a shaheed (martyr). The blood of Osama will give birth to thousands of other Osamas." In Abbottabad, where the US operation took place, dozens of Islamists marched through streets calling on the United States to stay out of Pakistan and Afghanistan. "America is the world's biggest terrorist," read one placard. Small protests were also held in the cities of Multan, Hyderabad and Abbottabad. Anti-American sentiment runs high here, despite billions of dollars in US aid for nuclear-armed, Pakistan. Pakistan's religious parties have not traditionally done well at the ballot box, but they wield considerable influence on the streets of a country where Islam is becoming more radicalised. The US war on militancy is unpopular in Pakistan because of the perception of high civilian deaths from drone attacks against suspected militants along the Afghan border and the feeling they are a violation of the country's sovereignty. The Pakistani government said bin Laden's death was a milestone in the fight against militancy although it objected to the raid as a violation of sovereignty. Pakistan has denied any knowledge of his whereabouts and the army threatened on Thursday to cut intelligence and military cooperation with the United States if it mounted more attacks. Some Pakistanis are too overwhelmed by the daily grind in a politically and economically unstable nation that offers poor government services and education, to react to the fact that the world's most wanted man was living here for years undetected. "This is just another instance of us becoming insensitive to all the chaos around us as a nation, and Osama's death is just another day, another incident for us," said Jibran Jawaid, a film producer in Pakistan's biggest city, Karachi. "Frankly, when people are so worried about high food prices, no power, security and everything, they cannot be blamed for being insensitive. A roti (bread) costs so much, bombs go off every now and then, people are robbed daily, so should they worry about that or the US raid?" Link: http://www.hindustantimes.com/US-rubs-it-in-with-drone-attack-kills-17-in-Pak/H1-Article1-694165.aspx
Stuge Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 US is baap of the world . Pak Warning is mere statement to please their people. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Drone Attack : :clap:
Bublu Bhuyan Posted May 6, 2011 Author Posted May 6, 2011 I have no problems whatsoever with America's actions as long as innocent civilians are unharmed. A big, fat middle finger to Pakistan's ego. If they aren't unable to wipe them terrorists off, the US will do it for them. Wipe out all the terrorists everywhere.
Asoka Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Well done USA. Wipe those scum off from the face of the universe.
Mamu Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I have no problems whatsoever with America's actions as long as innocent civilians are unharmed. A big' date= fat middle finger to Pakistan's ego. If they aren't unable to wipe them terrorists off, the US will do it for them. Wipe out all the terrorists everywhere. Innocent Civilians ? Who are "Innocent Civilians"? FYI: When Mehsud was killed, his Driver and his Wife was also killed. Both his Driver and His Wife were with him in the same house and are termed as "Innocents" who were killed. Were they really innocent? His Wife was massaging his legs when the drone struck -- apparently. Why is she innocent? And his driver is the same person who used to haul Mehsud around to kill people all over the world and within Pakistan -- was inncocent? Give me a break.
vvvslaxman Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 US is baap of the world . Pak Warning is mere statement to please their people. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Drone Attack : :clap: As i said they couldn't even protect a cricket team that was supposed to have presidential security. :cantstop:
ganeshran Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Drone attacks are the only way when Pakistan intelligence isnt cooperating. But I hope they make sure civilians are not targeted. innocent people shouldnt be killed
WC2011INDIA Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 It saddens me that India can't do something similar.
siddhu Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 As i said they couldn't even protect a cricket team that was supposed to have presidential security. :cantstop: Exactly... and if 4 lallu panju hawaldars means presidential security for pak then i am very surprised that their president has not been taken out more often...:hysterical::hysterical:
yoda Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Drone attacks will inherently cause collateral damage. It is one thing to use in the mountains where you see a few terrorists hiding, another to send one where they are living amongst others. Mamu, spouse and kids of terrorists aren't terrorists simply by association.
DomainK Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I have no problems whatsoever with America's actions as long as innocent civilians are unharmed. A big' date= fat middle finger to Pakistan's ego. If they aren't unable to wipe them terrorists off, the US will do it for them. Wipe out all the terrorists everywhere. You seriously think that innocent civilians are not getting killed in these attacks? I am sure they would hit if they come to know that two in a party of 10 are terrorists, and then others nearby will also die.
DomainK Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Drone attacks will inherently cause collateral damage. It is one thing to use in the mountains where you see a few terrorists hiding, another to send one where they are living amongst others. Mamu, spouse and kids of terrorists aren't terrorists simply by association. Precisely. When civilian targets are hit, innocent people are bound to die.
Mamu Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Drone attacks will inherently cause collateral damage. It is one thing to use in the mountains where you see a few terrorists hiding, another to send one where they are living amongst others. Mamu, spouse and kids of terrorists aren't terrorists simply by association. WIfe was cooking food for a Terrorist knowing damn well that mans next mission is probably to pick up a AK47 and go on a shooting spree. She is just as much guilty. Wife was massaging his sore legs so that he could feel better, wake up the next morning and go around shooting people. She is just as much guilty. If the wife did not want to be part of him and her husbands life -- she could have left him and gone and lived somewhere else, she had that choice -- did she not? What does she choose to do -- she decided to be a part of his daily life and activities -- which i am assuming she is very much cognizant of.
yoda Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 WIfe was cooking food for a Terrorist knowing damn well that mans next mission is probably to pick up a AK47 and go on a shooting spree. She is just as much guilty. Wife was massaging his sore legs so that he could feel better, wake up the next morning and go around shooting people. She is just as much guilty. If the wife did not want to be part of him and her husbands life -- she could have left him and gone and lived somewhere else, she had that choice -- did she not? What does she choose to do -- she decided to be a part of his daily life and activities -- which i am assuming she is very much cognizant of. So according to you, when a court sentences someone for a crime, they should send his whole family in with him, especially if they knew he was committing the crime. :winky:
Stuge Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Unfortunately few innocent have to die to protect the rest from such *******s :(
Stuge Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 So according to you' date=' when a court sentences someone for a crime, they should send his whole family in with him, especially if they knew he was committing the crime. :winky:[/quote'] see I'm damn sure she must have helped him to escape many times.
Ram Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Cant you guys show at least a semblance of sensititivity? I know the drones targeted terrorist, but there must losts of innocent civilians too that must have died. And we're talking about it like some video game victory in Mortal Kombat 4.
fineleg Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Unfortunately few innocent have to die to protect the rest from such *******s :( Stuge, Say that when you or someone you love are 'unfortunately' or 'by-chance' happening to be in the vicinity of an attack to eliminate bad guys. Easy to dismiss collateral damage as essential when it is not our folks. I agree with Morris - Lets show sensitivity when innocent lives are lost in the process.
yoda Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Unfortunately few innocent have to die to protect the rest from such *******s :( We are talking about few dying per drone attack, which IMO is unacceptable.
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