DomainK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I think the idea behind it is good. It should however be extended to all students. A nerd passing from a rural or backward part of India can actually benefit a lot from a small course and some counselling. Everyone should be asked to take this course.
ravishingravi Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 In my experience, all students need this at IITs and IIMs. With IIMs, the situation is much worse since presentation becomes a requirement. Instead of directly asking you for your status, they ll ask your CAT score which ofcourse has no material requirement during placements.
DomainK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 In my experience' date=' all students need this at IITs and IIMs. With IIMs, the situation is much worse since presentation becomes a requirement. Instead of directly asking you for your status, they ll ask your CAT score which ofcourse has no material requirement during placements.[/quote'] But's isn't the whole IIM course meany for that - developing one's personality, communications skills and etiquette?
The Outsider Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I think the idea behind it is good. It should however be extended to all students. A nerd passing from a rural or backward part of India can actually benefit a lot from a small course and some counselling. Everyone should be asked to take this course. Read post #16 by akshay - it is available for all students.....the thread title and the article in the OP is the regular chewtiyagiri from ToI.
DomainK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Read post #16 by akshay - it is available for all students.....the thread title and the article in the OP is the regular chewtiyagiri from ToI. :facepalm:
ravishingravi Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 But's isn't the whole IIM course meany for that - developing one's personality' date=' communications skills and etiquette?[/quote'] load of crap if you ask me. We have just missed the point of MBA in this country. Now it is just about meeting a demand supply situation. ISB being one exception I guess. Goes without saying all this is "my experience" of it. But you do get easy access to weed, I have to give them that.
DomainK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 load of crap if you ask me. We have just missed the point of MBA in this country. Now it is just about meeting a demand supply situation. ISB being one exception I guess. Goes without saying all this is "my experience" of it. But you do get easy access to weed, I have to give them that. Well, that's sad.
ravishingravi Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 The Brand Published on June 30, 2011 in India. 57 Comments This story (Late night internet chats land IITian in court) [Link] caught my attention today. No it was not just because of the judge making the man pay for the accommodation of the woman but for the way the word “IIT ” occurs in the headline and inside the piece. This is all the more confounding since the man in question does not now study in the said institution (he works for a “multinational firm in Gurgaon” ) and even more importantly there is nothing in his IIT education that has any bearing on what happened. Some may claim that his desire for late night chats with women stem from the social situation in school and to them I would say this is hardly an IIT-only phenomenon, many lonely men from different educational backgrounds, usually those with highly gender-imbalanced student bodies, are found to engage in such nocturnal activities. Of course this report is not an isolated case. Every time a person who went to IIT does something noteworthy (be it good or, as in this case, possibly bad), it is inevitable that his alma mater will be referenced —”ex-IIT releases guitar CD”, “IIT alumni directs movie”, “IIT man writes bestselling novel”, “IIT alumni writes awesome coffee-table book”, “IIT students start political party”, “IIT man kills sister“, “IIT graduate acts in porn flick”. Okay I made the last one up but you do get the point. Well so do I. And so does everyone. The label “IIT” is a label of excellence, that has transcended its original “premier institute of technology” stamp to become a guarantee of overall grooviness, in any field of human endeavor. A friend of mine, a professional photographer, tells me how a mention of his IIT-IIM pedigree distinguishes him in a place where his education should really have no bearing. An grand-aunt would say how for her darling grand-daughter “she only wants an IIT or an IIM”. A lady friend of mine told me, with barely concealed pride, how she is being pestered for matches by “boys from IIT” but she wants to “establish herself first”. Oh brother. In my own professional life, I have never felt the absence of an “IIT label” to be a hindrance—I got into the graduate school I wanted after graduation from Jadavpur University and after that my publications and the grants that I won spoke for me. Paradoxically it is in my writing life, which has nothing to do with my engineering degree, that my not being from IIT has been somewhat of an issue. I remember in an interview I did for “May I Hebb Your Attention Pliss”, a reporter asked “So you are from IIT?” I shook my head. “But you told me you stay in US, you are a PhD and you are a “techie”. (I never told the reporter I am a “techie”—hate the word with a passion). I explained to the person that just because I have a published book and I am a “techie” does not necessarily mean I am from IIT. The reporter hid the disappointment well. Not so this reader at a book event who asked me, with genuine eagerness, “Which IIT did you graduate from?”. I nodded a “No”. He followed it with a desperately-trying-to-save-the-situation “Oh you must be those who dropped out of IIT to write”. I once again said “No” this time, saw the sadness in his eyes. He mumbled “I just thought….”. A bit embarrassed, I avoided his gaze. Oh brother http://greatbong.net/2011/06/30/the-brand/
bihutoli Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Well IIMB had (may still have) something similar. A prep course so to say. Of course etiquette was not in the curriculum i think. But it was sort of a prep for students deemed weaker to pick up on basic math, etc. If this is such a course, including some lessons on etiquette no problems. However a course focussing exclusively on behaviour and aimed only at SC/ST students then it smacks of judgementalism on a very subjective topic. Very unprofessional on the part of IITD.
akshayxyz Posted July 1, 2011 Author Posted July 1, 2011 Well IIMB had (may still have) something similar. A prep course so to say. Of course etiquette was not in the curriculum i think. But it was sort of a prep for students deemed weaker to pick up on basic math' date=' etc. If this is such a course, including some lessons on etiquette no problems. However a course focussing exclusively on behaviour and aimed only at SC/ST students then it smacks of judgementalism on a very subjective topic. Very unprofessional on the part of IITD.[/quote'] It is scumbag TOI - misreporting the news. read post#16.
mishra Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 The Brand I would say this is hardly an IIT-only phenomenon, many lonely men from different educational backgrounds, usually those with highly gender-imbalanced student bodies, are found to engage in such nocturnal activities. Ravi, Ashok, Spelled as Asok and pronounced as Ashooook can use his IIT brain powers to get rid of tonnes of toxic asbestos waste in dilbert's office or telepathecally comminicate with alumuni and his professors and save the company in a matter of minutes.... Its failure on part quality control process of IIT when you hear term IITian in a news with negative overtones, hence IIT as a body has to improve because they cant have it both ways.... They want to train genuine Ashooks and ensure that everyone believes that they always correctly identify Ashoook at early age and then sharpen Ashoks skills
The Outsider Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Ravi, Ashok, Spelled as Asok and pronounced as Ashooook can use his IIT brain powers to get rid of tonnes of toxic asbestos waste in dilbert's office or telepathecally comminicate with alumuni and his professors and save the company in a matter of minutes.... Its failure on part quality control process of IIT when you hear term IITian in a news with negative overtones, hence IIT as a body has to improve because they cant have it both ways.... They want to train genuine Ashooks and ensure that everyone believes that they always correctly identify Ashoook at early age and then sharpen Ashoks skills Yeah, totally!
Mariyam Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Yeah' date=' totally! [/quote'] Outy, how dare you!!! Its very eloquently explained here: Mishraaaaaaaaaaaaaaagreat was trained at an early age and his skill sets were sharpened, transforming him into Mishragreat. Simple.
mishra Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Outy, how dare you!!! Its very eloquently explained here: Mishraaaaaaaaaaaaaaagreat was trained at an early age and his skill sets were sharpened, transforming him into Mishragreat. Simple. nahhh... Someone identified me as Misbahgreat :giggle: Failure on my institutes part
Mariyam Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Too much ToI hate on this thread. Today's TOI is remarkably good. They have 2-3 pages covering the Neeraj Grover case. Very detailed write up, and balanced covering. I-diva : a gossip/celeb news tabloid to be released every Friday was also launched today. Pretty neat stuff. Definitely readable. Times Good Eating has some good recipes and restaurant recommendations for the monsoons. I actually like the ToI.
Holysmoke Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Too much ToI hate on this thread. Today's TOI is remarkably good. They have 2-3 pages covering the Neeraj Grover case. Very detailed write up, and balanced covering. I-diva : a gossip/celeb news tabloid to be released every Friday was also launched today. Pretty neat stuff. Definitely readable. Times Good Eating has some good recipes and restaurant recommendations for the monsoons. I actually like the ToI. Get the TOI app on the ipad:two_thumbs_up:
mishra Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Pity for all his skills Asok is still an intern! Yes...Sadly thats what the story is so far... Asok is key indicator of where and how Indians stand
The Outsider Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Too much ToI hate on this thread. Today's TOI is remarkably good. They have 2-3 pages covering the Neeraj Grover case. Very detailed write up, and balanced covering. The print edition is not bad. It's still the newspaper I buy along with the Hindu when I am in India, but their online edition is not only a tabloid, but a dishonest one at that.
mishra Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Yeah' date=' totally! [/quote'] :winky: Thanks to IIT... For me intern Asok is still better then butler image of Air India Maharaja mascot
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